Jet Nut Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, DTereman said: Intent: to find out how people feel about the top tier talent on the roster. I think the roster sucks, actually. I also don’t think it has any many blue-chip talents as some people here think, but I don’t think there are zero. Happy Friday, though. Have a good weekend! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app And thinking there arent any blue chip players makes you wrong SO theres that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 3 hours ago, bitonti said: CJ Mosely has no trade value because of his insane contract. George Fant, if they can get anything for him, they will. Far from a blue chip asset these are the Jets' blue chip players in the sense they'd have value on the trade market: AVT Moore QW Zach (we hope) end of list This is very fair 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 4 hours ago, DTereman said: I think this will be an interesting talking point, so I want to open it up here so everyone can participate. How many “blue-chip” players do the Jets have on offense? How many do they have on defense? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app AVT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, bitonti said: they do - and there's some truth to it the only stat that really matters is QB Wins alot of these other stats can be "soft" - i.e. not interested in a guy who only beats bad tackles. KT's best film is against AVT from 2020 and he's a guard playing out of position at tackle I remember on one of the boards back in the day an annoying Pats fan arguing with a Fish fan always would argue that all of Zach Thomas tackles were 5 yards downfield. Worse I remember Jets fans arguing that Farrior did the same. Then on the Steelers it was how could we trade him away. Then we heard the same about Vilma. Now? I dont like the fact that I cant get a solid idea of what I expect out of a KT. I'm not sure that any of the EDGEs outside of Hutch are worth the 4th overall. No matter how hard and often I was trolled yesterday for thinking that way 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Blue Chip is a subjective definition. If you want to say, “how many Jets finished in the PFF top ten rankings at their respective positions”, I’m fairly confident the answers are AVT (guard) and Berrios (special teams only). It’s not pretty. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 41 minutes ago, DTereman said: Blue-chip is roughy top 1-8 at the position. 15 would be average. I would argue a Mosley who got 150+ tackles last season is closer to blue-chip than McGovern, despite why PFF tells you. AVT is a blue-chip to me, and Moore is counts as half since he can ball if his QB plays well. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Positional value is important. The tenth best center or MLB is not as valuable as the tenth best WR, LT, or QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, GangGreen Machine said: Better live it up while it lasts I guess your not familiar with the Berrios thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: I guess your not familiar with the Berrios thread. I’m not, has he reached Gawd status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, maury77 said: Blue Chip is a subjective definition. If you want to say, “how many Jets finished in the PFF top ten rankings at their respective positions”, I’m fairly confident the answers are AVT (guard) and Berrios (special teams only). It’s not pretty. Agreed is subjective. I always thought blue chip was an “elite” talent so maybe NFL top 100 players overall is a stretch. I’d like to think more like top 50-75. I remember Eddie Lacy getting lit up on the NFL top 100 broadcast saying he is 2 cheeseburgers away from putting his hand in the dirt… if that guy was top 100 at any time he wouldn’t be considered blue chip IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 3 hours ago, GangGreen Machine said: I’m not, has he reached Gawd status? I can't recall the OP's name but he started a thread called "One day, players like Berrios won't be on the Jets anymore". This was at a time Berrios was lighting it up as a ST player and gadget play specialist. It wasn't received very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Just now, More Cowbell said: I can't recall the OP's name but he started a thread called "One day, players like Berrios won't be on the Jets anymore". This was at a time Berrios was lighting it up as a ST player and gadget play specialist. It wasn't received very well. Ah I see that thread pop up every once and a while. FWIW, Leon Washington was very well liked. I don’t get the hate on Berrios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Don't forget about Chuma Edoga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 6 hours ago, T0mShane said: Zach Wilson is still on his parent’s T-Mobile family plan. Oh man I'm walking away from this one too. There's a good cell phone joke in there haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTereman Posted April 9, 2022 Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 And thinking there arent any blue chip players makes you wrong SO theres thatRead it again, specifically the part that says “but I don’t think there are zero.”Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Maxman said: Oh man I'm walking away from this one too. There's a good cell phone joke in there haha. I was going to report you for targeted harassment, but instead I’m going to use the “get out of jail free” card you handed me to targeted harass Jet Nut. 11 hours ago, Jet Nut said: And thinking there arent any blue chip players makes you wrong SO theres that Excuse me, Mr Nut, can you provide me with a comprehensive list of current Jets players that you consider to be “elite” now or will be “elite” within the next year or so? Thx. Looking to update my records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I was going to report you for targeted harassment, but instead I’m going to use the “get out of jail free” card you handed me to targeted harass Jet Nut. Excuse me, Mr Nut, can you provide me with a comprehensive list of current Jets players that you consider to be “elite” now or will be “elite” within the next year or so? Thx. Looking to update my records. LOL OK, I'll play, Mr. T0m. Id say AVT, Moore, QW, Hall and his rookie season, Becton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 13 hours ago, T0mShane said: Mosley chased the money and ruined his career in the process. Kudos to him to cashing in, but he’s a tragedy. He begged Baltimore to come close to the Jets offer and the Ravens said “nah.” He’ll retire with $70 mil in career earnings, but I’d imagine he’d swap careers in a second with Dont’a Hightower, who only pocketed $50 mil. Yea. He would have been better staying put. I have a hard time though, trashing him for taking the best offer. Excessive greed. Maybe. A way to keep him and his family, financially secure long term. Yes. Let's not forget he did rip his groin up, after he signed.. one of the valid reasons some of these guys chase the money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 14 hours ago, GangGreen Machine said: I will conceded ZW based on my definition of getting a first rounder in a trade. On draft position, age, and potential, you can make an argument for E Moore and AVT as first round trade talent. Other than that, I’m not convinced anyone is blue chip. Again I am a very optimistic Jets fan, just don’t like giving the term blue chip out too liberally. Maybe it’s a tad optimistic, but I honestly believe Moore has Antonio brown(on field) potential. Dude can be so good. He has a gift for constantly finding a way to get open 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 19 hours ago, bitonti said: CJ Mosely has no trade value because of his insane contract. George Fant, if they can get anything for him, they will. Far from a blue chip asset these are the Jets' blue chip players in the sense they'd have value on the trade market: AVT Moore QW Zach (we hope) end of list There is no universe where QW is a blue chip player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 3 hours ago, BurntDice said: Maybe it’s a tad optimistic, but I honestly believe Moore has Antonio brown(on field) potential. Dude can be so good. He has a gift for constantly finding a way to get open I’d love to see that happen. Big fan of E. Moore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Elijah Moore, AVT on offense. Becton would have been after his rookie season. Kind of hard to know where his value truly is now. Quinnen Williams, maybe CJ Mosely still on defense. But yeah, not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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