hmhertz Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I want Walker or JJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet25 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I do not see the hype in KT. I know for a fact that JD will pass on him even if he's there. Not worth it at 4. I see why Simms doesn't have him in his top 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RoadFan Posted April 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jet25 said: I do not see the hype in KT. I know for a fact that JD will pass on him even if he's there. Not worth it at 4. I see why Simms doesn't have him in his top 5 How do you know for a fact? 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Pauline just wrote the Jets have been “in constant communication” with JJ. And extensive research. Whatever that means. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Who is the best candidate for the wide 9? Typically, the "Wide-9" technique player is a pure pass rusher, and usually a speed rusher to be more specific. He aligns himself out wide, angled back toward the quarterback, and has limited run responsibility on the play. His whole job is to get to the quarterback. These are the defensive ends who excel at getting off the ball, blowing past the tackle, dipping their shoulder around the turn, and reaching the quarterback as he completes his drop. I need something positive to hope for lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet25 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 39 minutes ago, RoadFan said: How do you know for a fact? From the game tapes that I've watched so far. No way he is worth the pick at 4. I'd prefer Sauce if we had to choose between the two at pick 4. He loves pushing too far inside letting the outside wide open for run game/QB escaping, struggles containing the outside, can see the Tackles man handle him at the NFL level. I want a player that isn't too raw at 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Pretty adamant that Thibedeux is going to drop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CanadaSteve Posted April 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jet25 said: From the game tapes that I've watched so far. No way he is worth the pick at 4. I'd prefer Sauce if we had to choose between the two at pick 4. He loves pushing too far inside letting the outside wide open for run game and QB. Should be an easy fix but I want a player that isn't too raw at 4 So.....Just to be clear. You DON'T know for a fact, but in fact have an opinion. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet25 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, CanadaSteve said: So.....Just to be clear. You DON'T know for a fact, but in fact have an opinion. If he's there at 4, we're passing on him. Don't see the MEDIA hype on him and JD won't fall for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark78 Posted April 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2022 Come on gentleman…Nobody here knows what JD is gonna do 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sperm Edwards Posted April 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2022 I didn't watch, but can someone fill me in on which one of the edge rushers he grades higher than Trevor Lawrence? ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said: I didn't watch, but can someone fill me in on which one of the edge rushers he grades higher than Trevor Lawrence? ? Who is the Kellen Mond of edge rushers??!!!!! 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 The day I never have to hear the nepotist blowhard that goes by the name “Chris Simms” will be a joyful day in my house 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Who is the Kellen Mond of edge rushers??!!!!! Nicely done. Very nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: I didn't watch, but can someone fill me in on which one of the edge rushers he grades higher than Trevor Lawrence? ? Trevor Lawrence probably has more pass rushing moves than Travon Walker. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 34 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Who is the Kellen Mond of edge rushers??!!!!! Is he "an entire level above every one else" like Zach Wilson was according to SImms? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Zachtomims47 said: Pauline just wrote the Jets have been “in constant communication” with JJ. And extensive research. Whatever that means. Maybe at 10? Certainly not at 4 . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdoublee Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Who is the Kellen Mond of edge rushers??!!!!!Nik Bonitto. #5 on his list.Simms can't resist sliding in a "Mond" on every list lolSent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bitonti Posted April 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: Pretty adamant that Thibedeux is going to drop. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, maury77 said: Is he "an entire level above every one else" like Zach Wilson was according to SImms? Oh. It’s been a few hours. Time to proclaim out positions on Zach again? Ok. Yeah Simms nailed that one!!!! Best QB in the class - tune in this year and enjoy! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Cosell and Simms both love JJ II. I don't care about their credibility, I'm only consuming draft media that confirms my viewpoint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 42 minutes ago, bitonti said: Yep will drop right into our lap at #4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Jet25 said: If he's there at 4, we're passing on him. Your opinion again....No offense, but unless you are working for the Jets (which I doubt you would admit), nobody knows. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 For those who didn't watch: 1. Aidan Hutchinson 2. Travon Walker 3. Jermaine Johnson 4. George Karlaftis 5. Nik Bonitto 6. Joshua Pascal 7. Kayvon Thibodeaux Simms believes Kayvon is an end of the first talent. Says he doesn't do anything as well as the top 5 guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 8 hours ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: Maybe at 10? Certainly not at 4 . . . The jets have scenarios where they go OL or wr at 4 and then grab an edge at 10, so JJ would fit that scenario. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Jet25 said: I do not see the hype in KT. I know for a fact that JD will pass on him even if he's there. Not worth it at 4. I see why Simms doesn't have him in his top 5 You don't see the hype behind a guy who had the top pass rushing grade past 3 years and has one of the top pressure rates over that span? That was the top recruit in the country? So you'd rather go with a guy that you just heard of a month ago that's a much bigger projection? Ok 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Wilson at 4. KT or JJ (or Sauce, Stingley, Neal, Ikey or Walker) at 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Maybe Moye at 35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAJet815 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Mark78 said: Come on gentleman…Nobody here knows what JD is gonna do ? ?? I think it's pretty clear that whatever happens...people are going to say they "knew" it would turn out that way! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Jet25 said: From the game tapes that I've watched so far. No way he is worth the pick at 4. I'd prefer Sauce if we had to choose between the two at pick 4. He loves pushing too far inside letting the outside wide open for run game/QB escaping, struggles containing the outside, can see the Tackles man handle him at the NFL level. I want a player that isn't too raw at 4 That's what an opinion is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 38 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: For those who didn't watch: 1. Aidan Hutchinson 2. Travon Walker 3. Jermaine Johnson 4. George Karlaftis 5. Nik Bonitto 6. Joshua Pascal 7. Kayvon Thibodeaux Simms believes Kayvon is an end of the first talent. Says he doesn't do anything as well as the top 5 guys. Karlaftis will be a solid edge rusher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Larz said: Who is the best candidate for the wide 9? Typically, the "Wide-9" technique player is a pure pass rusher, and usually a speed rusher to be more specific. He aligns himself out wide, angled back toward the quarterback, and has limited run responsibility on the play. His whole job is to get to the quarterback. These are the defensive ends who excel at getting off the ball, blowing past the tackle, dipping their shoulder around the turn, and reaching the quarterback as he completes his drop. I need something positive to hope for lol 9 hours ago, tdoublee said: Nik Bonitto. #5 on his list. Simms can't resist sliding in a "Mond" on every list lol Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk There is your answer @Larz and presumably why Simms rates him so highly. Quote PFF’s take: “Bonitto wins not only with a high-end get-off but also with agility and body control to be a tackle’s worst nightmare in space. He’s a difficult dude to mirror.” “Impressive array of moves at his disposal. Has the speed-rusher handbook.” “Such a quick processor. Always playing off what the tackle does with his moves.” FTR’s take: Aidan Hutchinson and Kayvon Thibodeaux get most of the attention, but Nik Bonitto is the silent assassin in this year’s draft. Eight of the 14 EDGE rushers we’re looking at today had a pass rush win rate over 20% in 2021, including Thibodeaux (23.1%) and Hutchinson (24.8%). Bonitto smoked ‘em both (and everyone else) with a pass rush win rate of twenty-eight point nine percent. Some question whether he will be an every-down player in the NFL but, on passing downs, there’s no one in this year’s class that puts pressure on the quarterback more consistently than Bonitto. https://www.fieldgulls.com/2022/3/1/22950387/seattle-seahawks-2022-nfl-draft-primer-edge-defenders-offseason-commentary-and-analysis Of course, they also rank him as a 3rd rounder and his comp is Haason Reddick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet25 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 47 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: You don't see the hype behind a guy who had the top pass rushing grade past 3 years and has one of the top pressure rates over that span? That was the top recruit in the country? So you'd rather go with a guy that you just heard of a month ago that's a much bigger projection? Ok I just don't want guys who are big on Kayvon T to be mad when JD passes on him because he isn't that guy I thought he was hyped up to be when watching the tape. But we will see on draft day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 52 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: You don't see the hype behind a guy who had the top pass rushing grade past 3 years and has one of the top pressure rates over that span? That was the top recruit in the country? So you'd rather go with a guy that you just heard of a month ago that's a much bigger projection? Ok These are jet fans bro, majority have zombie like minds easily manipulated by the media. Media tells them something is good, it will forever be good like Terrible Lawrence. Now the Simms says Kayvon is terrible this will become the gospel. Similar to everyone now liking Jameson Williams but a quick look at even his highlights would show people he’s a body catcher, not the best trait to have when you have a QB with a strong arm. Bush league level fans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Walker might be one of the bigger boom or bust players in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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