ZachStepdad Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I haven’t seen this said but I would take both…. KT at 4 and JJ at 10…. I would even say Karlaftis at 10 if JJ is gone….. draft wr , db or lb round 2, te round 3…. Only way we stand a chance in the AFC is getting the qb….. Rotation of KT , JJ and Lawson would be sick and insurance for Lawson. JETS CARRYING WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION: KT QW JFM CL JJ Thoughts? 7 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Not a bad idea - we could certainly do a lot worse. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 If we don't draft a WR with one of our first two picks, then I want two edge rushers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ZachStepdad said: I haven’t seen this said but I would take both…. KT at 4 and JJ at 10…. I would even say Karlaftis at 10 if JJ is gone….. draft wr , db or lb round 2, te round 3…. Only way we stand a chance in the AFC is getting the qb….. Rotation of KT , JJ and Lawson would be sick and insurance for Lawson. Thoughts? Yeah that would be a pretty dumb allocation of resources with a 2nd-year QB who needs weapons to compete with said high-powered offenses. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, ZachStepdad said: I haven’t seen this said but I would take both…. KT at 4 and JJ at 10…. I would even say Karlaftis at 10 if JJ is gone….. draft wr , db or lb round 2, te round 3…. Only way we stand a chance in the AFC is getting the qb….. Rotation of KT , JJ and Lawson would be sick and insurance for Lawson. Thoughts? I'm not sure JJ will be around at 10 but I would love to snag him there. I'm on the record for wanting to snag him at 4 over KT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachStepdad Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said: Yeah that would be a pretty dumb allocation of resources with a 2nd-year QB who needs weapons to compete with said high-powered offenses. A lot of wrs in the draft and there’s no clear cut number one…… I would think about trading back from 10 and getting more picks and taking Karlaftis with it…. Load up on offense with the new extra picks 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, ZachStepdad said: I haven’t seen this said but I would take both…. KT at 4 and JJ at 10…. I would even say Karlaftis at 10 if JJ is gone….. draft wr , db or lb round 2, te round 3…. Only way we stand a chance in the AFC is getting the qb….. Rotation of KT , JJ and Lawson would be sick and insurance for Lawson. Thoughts? Yes and yes. Look at the AFC. Need to disrupt all those QBs. No rookie WR alone is going to save Wilson this year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, ZachStepdad said: A lot of wrs in the draft and there’s no clear cut number one…… I would think about trading back from 10 and getting more picks and taking Karlaftis with it…. Load up on offense with the new extra picks I don't want to be the last dawg at the bowl with the top tier of WR's like 2020. WR's gone by #35 IMO: London, Wilson, Williams, Dotson, Watson, Burks, Olave, Pickens.... If you don't trade back into the first (I want the Jets to do this with #35 and #69) You are looking at Skyy Moore, Alec Peirce, David Bell, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said: Yeah that would be a pretty dumb allocation of resources with a 2nd-year QB who needs weapons to compete with said high-powered offenses. I agree we need to add offensive talent but we have two high second round picks. I imagine we will have the opportunity to trade back into the first if we want. It's also a deep TE class where we should be able to add some talent there in the 3rd/4th behind the two TE upgraded we already added this offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I'd prefer KT and Sauce as the perfect scenario... but honestly this franchise is so desperately in need of an elite pass rush, I wouldn't even knock this. Lawson is cuttable next year and an elite pass rush will cover up a lot of defensive deficiencies 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, GangGreen Machine said: I don't want to be the last dawg at the bowl with the top tier of WR's like 2020. WR's gone by #35 IMO: London, Wilson, Williams, Dotson, Watson, Burks, Olave, Pickens.... If you don't trade back into the first (I want the Jets to do this with #35 and #69) You are looking at Skyy Moore, Alec Peirce, David Bell, etc. Take what the draft gives you. This year it’s Edge guys and it’s definitely a need. I’ve wanted a number 1 WR for two decades, but it’s not in the cards this year. Build your WR depth, Uzomah and a running game can also help Wilson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 This is not the worst idea I have every heard. But I'm not sure I want to wait till the second round for a WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachStepdad Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, Bruce Harper said: This is not the worst idea I have every heard. But I'm not sure I want to wait till the second round for a WR. Trade back into the first with one of the seconds round picks would also be a very good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Don’t think your step son would be to thrilled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I feel asleep with my earbuds in playing my chill playlist and had a dream I was singing in a grocery store. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Lol pass take Mafe in rd2 to go with KT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: Don’t think your step son would be to thrilled I think he is into both Mom and Zach. We should probably draft two edges but Bryce Huff has tons of potential (4 sacks). 1- EDGE/WR 2- LB/Safety 3- RB/TE Plug holes with the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said: Take what the draft gives you. This year it’s Edge guys and it’s definitely a need. I’ve wanted a number 1 WR for two decades, but it’s not in the cards this year. Build your WR depth, Uzomah and a running game can also help Wilson. I agree but I'm looking at edge with 4 or 10, not both. If you go "double D" ? with both picks, Id rather get the Georgia DT to help Q and that poor run defense or Sauce paired with an Edge. We essentially are already bolstering the pass rush from last year with Lawson. So I think its silly to have 3 guys (2 1st round draft picks and 1 premium FA signing) allocated to one position coming into the year. If they double up on edge with a 2-4 round pick that's fine. As for WR, I'm just looking for a guy who can separate and make big plays. If that's Skyy Moore at 35 or 38 I'm good. This WR unit, on paper, is one of the worst units in football. I'm optimistic that there is potential for breakouts, but id like to allocate a top pick to bolster the depth and and overall dynamic ability of this group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I do not mind taking two pass rushers in the 1st four picks to that high would be eye opening. I'm not sure how i would feel about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I doubt they do it but I would have no problem with taking two edge rushers in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachStepdad Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 Can’t have enough pass rushers Lawson: need a breather coach Saleh: NEXT GUY UPPPPPP! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 58 minutes ago, ZachStepdad said: Only way we stand a chance in the AFC is getting the qb IMO, that route is a route to constantly losing 31-6. You'll never have enough pass rush or Defense in this era to win consistently. The way to win is via an Elite Offense that can match the other elite Offenses, with a "good enough" Defense. We've been a horrible Offense for ages, maybe it's time to try and win the way everyone else does these days, and not the way it was done in the 1970's? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ZachStepdad said: Can’t have enough pass rushers Lawson: need a breather coach Saleh: NEXT GUY UPPPPPP! Lawson, 2022 1st rounder, Huff, JFM, Martin, and Co. should suffice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 jets need to score points they need weapons for wilson or u will have sam part 2 joe cant be that stupid to leave sam with a poor wr core and a bad running game-draft a wr and a rb of quality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 joe should have kicked the tires on melvin who will end up going to the fins as a fa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachStepdad Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: IMO, that route is a route to constantly losing 31-6. You'll never have enough pass rush or Defense in this era to win consistently. The way to win is via an Elite Offense that can match the other elite Offenses, with a "good enough" Defense. Rams won the ring against the high powered offense of Cincinnati with their great defense…. Good enough defense gets you nothing especially now with the qb movement in the afc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERMONT JET Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 This isn't as far out of an idea as some may think. If I were the Jets, I have to look at Carl Lawson as an unknown. They have no idea what if any production will come from him because of the injury. Now we all think he will come back and be fine, but if he's not, we are in major trouble. JFM needs to be the "#2" DE. He plays best when he isn't the main focus of the protection. You can never have enough pass rushers !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Back-to-back edge 1st rd one sounds like a great idea. Let's find a wide receiver with a 5th rd pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, ZachStepdad said: Rams won the ring against the high powered offense of Cincinnati with their great defense…. Good enough defense gets you nothing especially now with the qb movement in the afc Rams were a top 10 Offense, led by a (statistically) a top 5 QB in 2021. Their Defense was "good enough", being ranked 15th in points allowed and 17th in yards allowed, but were very good at INT's (tied for 3th overall w/ 19) and takeaways in general (10th overall). They were also good at sacks (3rd overall). What this says is the you still need an elite O even if you have a very good D, but your D has to be good at two things, takeaways and sacks. Yards and points allowed matter less in such a case. But we looked at this in a thread a while back, most of the last dozen or so Super Bowl winners were top level Offenses and lesser Defenses (some D's were quite poorly rated). With I believe one exception, all of them were "better" at Offense than Defense. Defense does not win titles. Defense helps your Offense win titles. But you don't win anything without a top-level Offense, generally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAJet815 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 If you want to double up at edge, that's cool. But do it at 35 with Mafe or Bonitto. The WR we need to grab won't be around in the 2nd round. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, GangGreen Machine said: Lawson, 2022 1st rounder, Huff, JFM, Martin, and Co. should suffice. This. Was gonna ask the OP "What about Lawson?" Some folks have been against us drafting another OT (even with Becton's injury history), yet you want to use 2 high #1s on 2 Edge players? I don't know about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachStepdad Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Back-to-back edge 1st rd one sounds like a great idea. Let's find a wide receiver with a 5th rd pick. Difference between me and Mac it’s at a PREMIUM position????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachStepdad Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, RVAJet815 said: If you want to double up at edge, that's cool. But do it at 35 with Mafe or Bonitto. The WR we need to grab won't be around in the 2nd round. I would take the 2 edges at the top like I mentioned if a WR is a must in the first trade back into the the teens or 20s and grab them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Larz said: I feel asleep with my earbuds in playing my chill playlist and had a dream I was singing in a grocery store. I had a dream I ate a giant marshmallow and when I woke up my pillow was gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, Warfish said: Their Defense was "good enough", being ranked 15th in points allowed and 17th in yards allowed, but were very good at INT's (tied for 3th overall w/ 19) and takeaways in general (10th overall). They were also good at sacks (3rd overall). What this says is the you still need an elite O even if you have a very good D, but your D has to be good at two things, takeaways and sacks. Yards and points allowed matter less in such a case. But we looked at this in a thread a while back, most of the last dozen or so Super Bowl winners were top level Offenses and lesser Defenses (some D's were quite poorly rated). With I believe one exception, all of them were "better" at Offense than Defense. Defense does not win titles. Defense helps your Offense win titles. But you don't win anything without a top-level Offense, generally. A good D definitely needs to know when its time for a turnover. Any halfway decent D also knows when it needs to dictate the pace. I would also like to add that a D needs to be HARD in all phases of the game, even in timeout situations. A hard D throughout the entirety of the game is an incredible sight to see. D... that's the key... a good, hard D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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