Raideraholic Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I have to take care of the franchise Qb . You either have one or you don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tranquilo Posted April 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: I have to take care of the franchise Qb . You either have one or you don’t. tf you signed him? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted April 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2022 QB contract extensions seem to be escalating rather quickly Jets got 99 problems but that ain’t one ? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, Larz said: QB contract extensions seem to be escalating rather quickly Jets got 99 problems but that ain’t one ? Got to get one first, true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, Fantasy Island said: Got to get one first, true. If our history is an indicator? Two more years before we reinitiate the search 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PS17 Posted April 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, Larz said: QB contract extensions seem to be escalating rather quickly Jets got 99 problems but that ain’t one ? Thank you Joe Douglas, Thank you 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I’d call him a poor man’s Kirk Cousins, but that’s a pretty rich deal for a QB coming off just his second winning season in eight years as a pro. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Its so cool seeing Sid from Toy Story grow up, and become this successful in the NFL. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, slats said: I’d call him a poor man’s Kirk Cousins, but that’s a pretty rich deal for a QB coming off just his second winning season in eight years as a pro. There are no more excuses the weapons he has at his disposal on offense is ridiculous good , and defense that they really upgraded big time . ( expect to see Gilmore/ T Matthieu one of them , and Van Noy added . The Raiders are legitimate Super Bowl contenders now- time to bring another Lombardi trophy home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: There are no more excuses the weapons he has at his disposal on offense is ridiculous good , and defense that they really upgraded big time . ( expect to see Gilmore/ T Matthieu one of them , and Van Noy added . The Raiders are legitimate Super Bowl contenders now- time to bring another Lombardi trophy home. Love the bottomless enthusiasm. Good luck, man. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Nothing like putting yourself in QB purgatory with a middle of the pack QB on an Elite QB contract. Why not give up a 7th for Mayfield or sign Brisset for a breakfast bagel or something? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Blast Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Larz said: QB contract extensions seem to be escalating rather quickly Jets got 99 problems but that ain’t one ? That is a problem for us all to hope for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I read some of the things people say about Derek Carr here on JN and I shake my head. The guy is a top 10 NFL QB. We should be so lucky to have a guy like that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Raideraholic said: I have to take care of the franchise Qb . You either have one or you don’t. Asomugha J Russell J Fargas J Cook A Pryor H Ruggs Clelin Ferrell J Palmer Carr, skip Carr, Carr once again. M Lynch A Cooper Gruden All those difference makers. All those championships. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 49 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Asomugha J Russell J Fargas J Cook A Pryor H Ruggs Clelin Ferrell J Palmer Carr, skip Carr, Carr once again. M Lynch A Cooper Gruden All those difference makers. All those championships. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Must suck to have players you have to pay. The Jets will be rolling in cap space for ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Asomugha J Russell J Fargas J Cook A Pryor H Ruggs Clelin Ferrell J Palmer Carr, skip Carr, Carr once again. M Lynch A Cooper Gruden All those difference makers. All those championships. H Ruggs going to go down as bust because he did stupid thing off the field that going to change his life forever. On the football field he was becoming a star - scared the bee Jeeves out of defenses with his blazing speed. The Raiders offense was lethal with him versus when they lost him. Just throw it up deep and he would go get it. That pick was the right one , just young man make huge mistake off the field. ( turned out was wasted pick) . That’s life. I love teams that have worst Qb every year crapping on Derek Carr . ( lmao every year how all these so called franchise Qb the jets drafted are better than D Carr - yet finish as worse Qb in the league. It’s not even worth arguing because obviously you have no clue what a top 10 Qb looks like. Yes j Gruden was good offensive mInd but all his new stuff be broke out early in the season( why the Raiders always got off to great start) than would fall back on his old bread and butter plays .( why they never were good red zone offense under Gruden because everyone knew these plays) Josh Mcdaniels is excellent play caller designs plays ( broncos players who couldn’t stand the man admit that is the case) that going to create mismatches . If J Mcdaniels had a Qb of D Carr caliber in Denver he still be coaching the Broncos. Gruden always tried to make Carr ( 4.6 speed) into something he wasn’t scrambler . He’s pocket passer with quick release who can make every throw in the book , and is extremely bright. Can read NFL defenses with the best of him. His weapons are as good as any team. Legitimate number 1 Wr Devante Adams 2 Top three TE in D Waller 3 . Hunter Renfrow Is one better slot receiver in the game . ( all three of these guys will destroy single coverage). Wr number 2 B Edwards is d Adams clone whose going to benefit the most from watching a real pro every day in practice. ( D Adams wasn’t successful early in his career either) The attention the other guys are going to get that B Edwards is going to eat. Demarcus Robinson (/ex chief will get time). Mack hollins - special team and red zone. t Johnson - speed threat to stretch the field. Foster Moreau is as good number 2 Te as there is in game. Rb Josh Jacobs , k Drake - much better fit in power scheme than zone scheme last year -Great receiver out of backfield, Brandon Bolden( third down back from patriots) and Ameer Abdullah - another speed back. Raiders started one of the youngest offense lines in football last year , got better and better as the year went on. The New staff thinks they will only be better with better coaching . Cable only looked for certain measurable in his offense lineman, new OC could careless just wants to see good film on the player. The defense where they really added some big time players Chandler Jones , Rock Ya sin ( 5th best man cover Cb) Cb Anthony Averett - played T Hill as well as I saw any Cb play him another man to man Cb . Darius Phillips ( nickel Cb - might move last year stud nickel Cb Nate Hobbs outside. Trayvon Mullen fits defense very good, but if sign stephon Gilmore he will most likely traded. Raiders will have 20 million after June 1 . Not even done with what this defense will look like . ( watch big names still out there) The Raiders stay healthy this team has to be favorites in AFC West , and have legitimate Super Bowl aspirations . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Raideraholic said: H Ruggs going to go down as bust because he did stupid thing off the field that going to change his life forever. On the football field he was becoming a star - scared the bee Jeeves out of defenses with his blazing speed. The Raiders offense was lethal with him versus when they lost him. Just throw it up deep and he would go get it. That pick was the right one , just young man make huge mistake off the field. ( turned out was wasted pick) . That’s life. I love teams that have worst Qb every year crapping on Derek Carr . ( lmao every year how all these so called franchise Qb the jets drafted are better than D Carr - yet finish as worse Qb in the league. It’s not even worth arguing because obviously you have no clue what a top 10 Qb looks like. Yes j Gruden was good offensive mInd but all his new stuff be broke out early in the season( why the Raiders always got off to great start) than would fall back on his old bread and butter plays .( why they never were good red zone offense under Gruden because everyone knew these plays) Josh Mcdaniels is excellent play caller designs plays ( broncos players who couldn’t stand the man admit that is the case) that going to create mismatches . If J Mcdaniels had a Qb of D Carr caliber in Denver he still be coaching the Broncos. Gruden always tried to make Carr ( 4.6 speed) into something he wasn’t scrambler . He’s pocket passer with quick release who can make every throw in the book , and is extremely bright. Can read NFL defenses with the best of him. His weapons are as good as any team. Legitimate number 1 Wr Devante Adams 2 Top three TE in D Waller 3 . Hunter Renfrow Is one better slot receiver in the game . ( all three of these guys will destroy single coverage). Wr number 2 B Edwards is d Adams clone whose going to benefit the most from watching a real pro every day in practice. ( D Adams wasn’t successful early in his career either) The attention the other guys are going to get that B Edwards is going to eat. Demarcus Robinson (/ex chief will get time). Mack hollins - special team and red zone. t Johnson - speed threat to stretch the field. Foster Moreau is as good number 2 Te as there is in game. Rb Josh Jacobs , k Drake - much better fit in power scheme than zone scheme last year -Great receiver out of backfield, Brandon Bolden( third down back from patriots) and Ameer Abdullah - another speed back. Raiders started one of the youngest offense lines in football last year , got better and better as the year went on. The New staff thinks they will only be better with better coaching . Cable only looked for certain measurable in his offense lineman, new OC could careless just wants to see good film on the player. The defense where they really added some big time players Chandler Jones , Rock Ya sin ( 5th best man cover Cb) Cb Anthony Averett - played T Hill as well as I saw any Cb play him another man to man Cb . Darius Phillips ( nickel Cb - might move last year stud nickel Cb Nate Hobbs outside. Trayvon Mullen fits defense very good, but if sign stephon Gilmore he will most likely traded. Raiders will have 20 million after June 1 . Not even done with what this defense will look like . ( watch big names still out there) The Raiders stay healthy this team has to be favorites in AFC West , and have legitimate Super Bowl aspirations . Ugh, huh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Raideraholic said: I love teams that have worst Qb every year crapping on Derek Carr . We bitch and moan about our 10 year drought, hate our CS's, GMs players whoever we blame. What we dont do is we dont show up on a Raiders board, is there one, bragging about our team. Your team hasn't won. playoff game in 20 years Slow down, enjoy 2022 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 when the raiders finish behind the Jets.. it will be hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 The contract is an "extension" in name only. Only $24.9 million is guaranteed at signing. Another $40 million becomes guaranteed in February 2023, but the Raiders can opt out of the contract before that trigger date. In other words, they could opt out of the contract and cut Carr after the 2022 season without hardly scratching their cap. This is the Raiders telling Carr, "Show us what you can do in 2022 or else." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 with zach on his rookie deal, this is their time to win they need to get on that - before Zach demands 100 million of his own and "handicaps the roster" This is why I was against ZW. Not because he's bad. but because this team wasn't ready to open a SB window (and still isn't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I'd make fun of Carr and point out you're gonna finish in 4th place in that division... But I'd sign up for Carr as our QB in a heartbeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Hate the Raiders, but their fans have every single reason to be optimistic. A top 10 QB, top 2 WR, top 3 TE, top 7 RB, and a great offensive mind calling the shots. I wouldn't even begin to know how excited I'd be if the Jets ever put something like that together. The people hating on Carr probably are the same ones who think Zach Wilson is the next Patrick Mahomes. Meanwhile, I'd give up so much for Zach Wilson to become Derek Carr. Unfortunately, everything he's put on tape looks more like David Carr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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