Why I think Drake London has the biggest bust potential of the top 5 receivers in the NFL Draft

[DoomProphet]

 

[GangGreen Machine]

Jets biggest flaw in the WR room last year seemed to be getting separation outside of Moore in a few games and Berrios at the end of the season.

London is a throwback bully ball WR. Rules have changed for the better for wide outs so no priority need for elite physicality.

Id like some more speed and agility in the next high pick WR to become a jet. Maybe someone with traits similar to Mr. Hill but without the baggage. 

[Jdub03]

19 minutes ago, DoomProphet said:

 

I like how you referenced  Cooper Kuup. Want to know what his 40 time was.....4.62.  Why is he successful? He is an elite route runner.  He also operates mostly from the slot, which help free him from press. London is one of the best route runners coming out of this class, he is also the best against press coverage coming out of this class.  I'd suggest you try and find video that shows the complete play. He does create separation, especially in the short to intermediate area. When your QB is throwing late or inaccurate, you'll tend to have more contested catches. 

Also, he only 20! He'll still mature physically and get bigger/faster.  Worst case, he become a very good Big Slot.

[RVAJet815]

14 minutes ago, GangGreen Machine said:

Jets biggest flaw in the WR room last year seemed to be getting separation outside of Moore in a few games and Berrios at the end of the season.

London is a throwback bully ball WR. Rules have changed for the better for wide outs so no priority need for elite physicality.

Id like some more speed and agility in the next high pick WR to become a jet. Maybe someone with traits similar to Mr. Hill but without the baggage. 

I honestly think he has that speed and that will show up and surprise some people in his pro day (Friday?). His qb didn't have the arm to capitalize on that speed. He'd have that here with Wilson. And he gives the Jets that bully ball aspect they don't have now. He'd be a real red zone weapon. On top of the TEs and maybe another wr/RB or two, this could be a pretty interesting, dare I say functional nfl offense. 

[THE BARON]

6 minutes ago, GangGreen Machine said:

Jets biggest flaw in the WR room last year seemed to be getting separation outside of Moore in a few games and Berrios at the end of the season.

London is a throwback bully ball WR. Rules have changed for the better for wide outs so no priority need for elite physicality.

Id like some more speed and agility in the next high pick WR to become a jet. Maybe someone with traits similar to Mr. Hill but without the baggage. 

As soon as teams start looking to follow a trend, the trend is over.  London has good hands and is aggressive to the ball.  Can play outside or in the slot/seam.  He can and does get some separation by cutting and making moves.  I don't see him getting a lot of yards after the catch, though.  A not so wealthy man's Keyshawn Johnson.   

Just a guess, but I think he would be better for a QB that throws on time and has ideal ball placement.  London will run nice short and medium routs and come out of his move/break with some space, but he's not going to be much help for a QB that improvises and moves around more than rely on precision and pre-snap read.  

[ZachStepdad]

Slow, no separation…. People like to compare him to Mike Evans because of frame and size ….. Mike Evans gets separation and he’s fast and it’s was and still is on tape ….

[#27TheDominator]

14 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

As soon as teams start looking to follow a trend, the trend is over.  London has good hands and is aggressive to the ball.  Can play outside or in the slot/seam.  He can and does get some separation by cutting and making moves.  I don't see him getting a lot of yards after the catch, though.  A not so wealthy man's Keyshawn Johnson.   

Just a guess, but I think he would be better for a QB that throws on time and has ideal ball placement.  London will run nice short and medium routs and come out of his move/break with some space, but he's not going to be much help for a QB that improvises and moves around more than rely on precision and pre-snap read.  

So... Mike White's gonna love him? 

[THE BARON]

2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

So... Mike White's gonna love him? 

Or Tom Brady... 

[LAD_Brooklyn]

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Thread coming soon later tonight. Stay tune.

[DoomProphet]

33 minutes ago, Jdub03 said:

I like how you referenced  Cooper Kuup. Want to know what his 40 time was.....4.62.  Why is he successful? He is an elite route runner.  He also operates mostly from the slot, which help free him from press. London is one of the best route runners coming out of this class, he is also the best against press coverage coming out of this class.  I'd suggest you try and find video that shows the complete play. He does create separation, especially in the short to intermediate area. When your QB is throwing late or inaccurate, you'll tend to have more contested catches. 

Also, he only 20! He'll still mature physically and get bigger/faster.  Worst case, he become a very good Big Slot.

London isn't near the route runner that Wilson, Williams, & Olave are. He's better than Burks but he doesn't have game speed or the game breaking ability that Burks has. Plus he's the slowest receiver out of the top 5. He's my WR5. Maybe that's a hot take but he scares me and I don't want the Jets to go near him.

[DoomProphet]

16 minutes ago, ZachStepdad said:

Slow, no separation…. People like to compare him to Mike Evans because of frame and size ….. Mike Evans gets separation and he’s fast and it’s was and still is on tape ….

I agree.

[shuler82]

Much better job naming this thread. It almost makes me think about watching your video.

[T0mShane]

16 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

Or Tom Brady... 

tomato/tomato

[The Crusher]

I’m down just so I can fit in some “London Calling” references when he dominates. 

[Beerfish]

I admit i skimmed the video here and there but I totally agree with the premise and thought.  London is on my 'do not draft list'.

[DoomProphet]

2 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

I’m down just so I can fit in some “London Calling” references when he dominates. 

Hey if he does I'll eat crow. I just don't see it with him.

[DoomProphet]

Just now, Beerfish said:

I admit i skimmed the video here and there but I totally agree with the premise and thought.  London is on my 'do not draft list'.

Thank you for at least watching 👍

[jeremy2020]

6 minutes ago, DoomProphet said:

Hey if he does I'll eat crow. I just don't see it with him.

You eating crow is definitely worth a 1st round pick for the Jets. I think everyone would be ok if the Jets drafted a bust if you had to eat crow about it. 

[Tranquilo]

34 minutes ago, ZachStepdad said:

Slow, no separation…. People like to compare him to Mike Evans because of frame and size ….. Mike Evans gets separation and he’s fast and it’s was and still is on tape ….

Mike Evans is ranked like in the 60s among WRs in average yards of separation 

[Tranquilo]

 

[jetspenguin]

1 hour ago, THE BARON said:

As soon as teams start looking to follow a trend, the trend is over.  London has good hands and is aggressive to the ball.  Can play outside or in the slot/seam.  He can and does get some separation by cutting and making moves.  I don't see him getting a lot of yards after the catch, though.  A not so wealthy man's Keyshawn Johnson.   

Just a guess, but I think he would be better for a QB that throws on time and has ideal ball placement.  London will run nice short and medium routs and come out of his move/break with some space, but he's not going to be much help for a QB that improvises and moves around more than rely on precision and pre-snap read.  

I think a lot of that was his QB's play and how he was used. I believe he can be a big YAC buy in the right scheme. 

 

[slimjasi]

You certainly aren't alone - I think he's a boom or bust guy. I could see him being either really good or basically nonexistent. 

[DoomProphet]

27 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

You eating crow is definitely worth a 1st round pick for the Jets. I think everyone would be ok if the Jets drafted a bust if you had to eat crow about it. 

Jeremy, I said he was a bust! So I would be right in that case!

LOL

[DoomProphet]

6 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

You certainly aren't alone - I think he's a boom or bust guy. I could see him being either really good or basically nonexistent. 

Agreed. The most polarizing WR in this draft without a doubt!

 

[DoomProphet]

20 minutes ago, Tranquilo said:

 

Those may have been the only 3 times he ever separated in his entire USC run!

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

17 minutes ago, Tranquilo said:

 

Not to bust your chops, but I can find  video on hundreds of college receivers that show the same thing.  Video of three receptions against guys that will be flipping burgers next year prove nothing.  I have read scouting reports that mention London's weaknesses as lack of separation and speed.  In addition, he saw a ridiculous volume of targets at USC, which inflated his numbers. I am staying away from prospect evaluations because I realize that I don't know enough compared to most NFL scouts and GMs and that success is based on many factors (talent, coaching, situation, injuries, system).  I will say though that London makes me nervous.

[Tranquilo]

Just now, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

Not to bust your chops, but I can find  video on hundreds of college receivers that show the same thing.  Video of three receptions against guys that will be flipping burgers next year prove nothing.  I have read scouting reports that mention London's weaknesses as lack of separation and speed.  In addition, he saw a ridiculous volume of targets at USC, which inflated his numbers. I am staying away from prospect evaluations because I realize that I don't know enough compared to most NFL scouts and GMs and that success is based on many factors (talent, coaching, situation, injuries, system).  I will say though that London makes me nervous.

 

[nickfoshizal]

Shockingly height doesn’t prevent separation, just because a guy is 6’5” doesn’t mean he can’t separate. Just because he can outmuscle players DOES NOT MEAN HE CANT SEPARATE. Announcing that Drake London can’t separate or run routes is just announcing that you either haven’t watched him or didn’t understand what you were seeing. Guys who can’t get open don’t catch 80 balls in 6 games, period. 

[#27TheDominator]

I don't know what to think of London.  Some people really love him.   We usually don't get this late in the draft process without having any idea of a guy's speed./agility numbers.  I have seen him compared to Mike Evans, Ed McCaffrey, Marques Colston, and Kenny Golloday.  I don't really see him as a huge bust risk.  I would say he is worst case David Nelson.  London had waaaay more college production and before he got hurt, Nelson actually looked like he was going to be a player.   I am more worried about what we'd be leaving on the table with the speed guys if we went for London.

[varjet]

Look at last year's draft at the top 10 players picked.  Basically they were all sure things except the QBs, both of whom may bust.  Whoops!  We picked one.   The hit rate on the next 10 is actually pretty good too.

1-Jacksonville Jaguars Trevor Lawrence QB-"generational"

2-New York Jets Zach Wilson QB-WIP

3-San Francisco 49ers Trey Lance QB-WIP

4-Atlanta Falcons Kyle Pitts †TE Florida-"generational"

5-Cincinnati Bengals Ja'Marr Chase †WR LSU-"generational"

6-Miami Dolphins Jaylen Waddle WR Alabama-solid

7-Detroit Lions Penei Sewell OT Oregon-solid 

8-Carolina Panthers Jaycee Horn CB-solid 

9-Denver Broncos Patrick Surtain II CB-solid

10-Philadelphia Eagles DeVonta Smith WR Alabama-solid

Of the next 10, you had Mac Jones, AVT, Micah Parsons, Rashaan Slater. Jaelen Phillips, and then WIP.  

This draft will show us what we have in JD.  He needs to scout these players and figure them out.   Reaching for a WR or EDGE, because that is what they play, to have them bust will be his undoing.   

[Larz]

I’ll watch the video later but I’d like to give a huge atta boy to @DoomProphet for making these and putting his ideas out there 

👍

[T0mShane]

2 hours ago, DoomProphet said:

 

I forgot I had this open and it cycled through like six times. Nice work. It takes a lot of guts to put yourself out there. Thanks for these vids, man. 

[kdels62]

These are bad takes. 

[DoomProphet]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I forgot I had this open and it cycled through like six times. Nice work. It takes a lot of guts to put yourself out there. Thanks for these vids, man. 

Thanks! It's no big deal. I love making videos , discussing, & debating with Jets online community.

[DoomProphet]

9 minutes ago, Larz said:

I’ll watch the video later but I’d like to give a huge atta boy to @DoomProphet for making these and putting his ideas out there 

👍

Thanks I appreciate it! 👍