Alka Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I thought Brian Bozworth was going to be great. He wasn't great, and he wasn't good. He was so hyped, and I bought into it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said: I liked the Jachai Polite pick. *ducks* I'll assemble the protesters and we'll break out the pitchforks! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Maynard13 said: I was actually intrigued with Allen the QB since he came from an Alaskan type climate. And Sam was from sun n surf Cali. His arm strength was special. Any fool could see that. And the dude is Big Ben type large. QB’s like that that grow on trees. The only thing with him was you’d have to wait to develop him. So as it turned out, Allen steadily developed and Sam steadily regressed. Go Jets. ??♂️ I def bought into the "Sam is in the mold of Big Ben" hype. Not that I want to rehash this (you can search in previous threads if interested in hearing why) but I still haven't given up on Sam. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 11 hours ago, GangGreen Machine said: I also thought Justin Herbert didn’t have the arm accuracy. He’s too laid back, does he even love football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alka said: I thought Brian Bozworth was going to be great. He wasn't great, and he wasn't good. He was so hyped, and I bought into it. Wasn't the story that he was on 'roids and then stopped taking them once he got drafted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alka said: I thought Brian Bozworth was going to be great. He wasn't great, and he wasn't good. He was so hyped, and I bought into it. He was a pioneer in pre draft branding along with Deion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 12 hours ago, GangGreen Machine said: I thought Reggie Bush would be a hall of fame back. Absolutely electric in college. I remember how pissed people were we won a game, so we didn't get him, and instead we had to settle for D'Brick, which was pure luck in hindsight. Reggie at least had a good career. I was pissed we missed out on Darren McFadden, who was kind of mediocre, but did have 2 1,000 yard season. I thought the Blair Thomas, Reggie Rembert draft class was going to set us up for a huge offensive upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I def bought into the "Sam is in the mold of Big Ben" hype. Not that I want to rehash this (you can search in previous threads if interested in hearing why) but I still haven't given up on Sam. I think Sam will one day be a great surfer ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I also thought Ryan Leaf was the better QB than Peyton. Having watched so many SEC games I was convinced Manning was overhyped because of his bloodlines , boy was I way off on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 For the Jets, I thought Dee Milliner would be a good CB. I didn't think he would be elite, but I was fairly sure he would be a solid CB. There was nothing there to suggest he would be a total NFL bust. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Claymation said: Trevor Lawrence, I thought he was going to be the best QB prospect since Luck. His throws lack zip and accuracy. His progressions are slow. The fact that he will be in another system is not a good sign for his growth. If they don't protect him it will further hinder his development. Way too early to tell. He showed a lot of promise at times. His biggest problem is the team he is on. I expect he will be a reclamation project at the end of his rookie contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, 56mehl56 said: Blair Thomas Knew it would be a disaster. Star Penn State RB = NFL BUST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 its been a trail of dead with me and QBs lately... not who I thought was going to be good (RIP Josh Rosen)... but the ones i had concerns about -- are now fcking canton ohio shoe-ins lol. Mahomes - didn't trust he was would translate, Allen - major accuracy concerns, Herbert - came up flat in all the big college spots... "Fool's gold i tell you!" Whelp! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, THE BARON said: Knew it would be a disaster. Star Penn State RB = NFL BUST NJ's own Franco Harris as my rebuttal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 12 hours ago, HessStation said: Reggie Williams, WR, Washington, 2004 Mike Williams, WR, USC, 2005 Taylor Mays, SS, USC, 2010 Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU, 2013 Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama, 2013 Marquise Lee, WR, USC, 2014 …that’s it I was absolutely right about everything else. That ever existed. HessStation for GM 2023 I'm with you on a lot of these guys. I thought they would be legit. Recently I really thought Prince Tega Wanogho-OT Auburn was going to be a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, Paradis said: its been a trail of dead with me and QBs lately... not who I thought was going to be good (RIP Josh Rosen)... but the ones i had concerns about -- are now fcking canton ohio shoe-ins lol. Mahomes - didn't trust he was would translate, Allen - major accuracy concerns, Herbert - came up flat in all the big college spots... "Fool's gold i tell you!" Whelp! Where they go is everything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Not saying I thought he'd be a superstar or anything but I remember thinking Jamarcus Russell would be good because he had the strongest arm I had ever seen (and that's still the case). In my defense, I had no way to know the guy wasn't going to take his career seriously. EDIT: Now that I think about it, I remember being strongly against the Jets taking Deshaun Watson because there was some stat about no QB ever having succeeded when they didn't throw a certain MPH. I tried doing a quick search but only found this link below. https://blackandgold.com/saints/82242-arm-strength-deshaun-watson-woefully-bad.html Arm strength - Deshaun Watson is woefully bad Ball Velocity Results Raise Arm Strength Concerns for QB Deshaun Watson | Pro Football Spot Ball Velocity Results Raise Arm Strength Concerns for QB Deshaun Watson by Mattis Holt March 13, 2017 NFL DRAFT You can teach a quarterback a lot, but you can’t teach arm strength. That’s why the NFL Combine velocity numbers might send QB Deshaun Watson out of the 1st round. Deshaun Watson has been the top quarterback on the board for many NFL scouts leading up to this year’s NFL Draft, but his draft stock just took a serious hit. The ball velocity for quarterbacks has been measured at the Combine since 2008. Some say it’s a meaningless stat, other says it’s a matter of life and death in the NFL. Here’s how the top quarterback prospects in the 2017 draft class ranked in regard to ball velocity, according to CBS draft analyst Dane Brugler: 60 mph: Patrick Mahomes 59 mph: Davis Webb 56 mph: DeShone Kizer 55 mph: Mitchell Trubisky, Jerod Evans 53 mph: Nate Peterman, Brad Kaaya 49 mph: Deshaun Watson Watson’s Woeful Number Deshaun Watson’s 49 miles per hour is shockingly bad. The magic number for NFL quarterbacks is 55 mph. Only two quarterbacks with ball velocity below 55 mph have had any success in the NFL: Tyrod Taylor (50 mph) and Dak Prescott (54 mph). Prescott was also reportedly throwing with a minor shoulder injury at the 2016 NFL Combine. That makes Buffalo Bills quarterback Tyrod Taylor the only QB with a ball velocity below 55 mph since 2008 to find a home in the NFL. Notable players with 55< ball velocity includes Bryce Petty (53 mph), AJ McCarron (53 mph), Kellen Moore (52 mph), Mike Glennon (49 mph), Christian Ponder (51 mph), TJ Yates (53 mph), Jake Locker (54 mph) and Chad Henne (53 mph) – none of which have proven themselves NFL starting caliber. Only three players have recorded a worse velocity than 49 mph since 2008 — Colt Brennan, Armanti Edwards & Blake Sims — and Dan LeFevour, Tony Pike, Josh Johnson, and the now-Bears QB Mike Glennon are the only other four to match Deshaun Watson’s weak velocity. Will the numbers scare away NFL teams or will general managers take a shot at the former Clemson QB despite his poor arm strength? This will definitely be a big storyline leading up to the NFL Draft in Philadelphia April 27th. Read more: Ball Velocity Results Raise Arm Strength Concerns for QB Deshaun Watson | Pro Football Spot I've said this before, this is where the combine made a huge difference for me. I liked Watson before the draft but then the arm strength thing and velocity came up as a big negative. At the combine with al QBs throwing I am watching and saying 'Watson's passes are getting there just as fast and with just as much zip as almost anyone and he is way more accurate, he also is acting like a leader. Right there it put arm concerns to rest for me. It also reaffirmed that some of the big armed guys were terrible, such as Davis Webb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, THE BARON said: For the Jets, I thought Dee Milliner would be a good CB. I didn't think he would be elite, but I was fairly sure he would be a solid CB. There was nothing there to suggest he would be a total NFL bust. Injuries killed him not as much his play, he won rookie of the month near the end of his 1st year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Claymation said: NJ's own Franco Harris as my rebuttal. as well as Lydell Mitchell - that was a backfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Claymation said: NJ's own Franco Harris as my rebuttal. True that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Dewayne Robertson killed homer Bitonti I legit believed in that player, and that's when I realized that belief ain't worth sh*t Vernon Gholston is often brought up but I never really loved VG per se. I said things there wasn't any other pick that made sense (still true) and he needs more time (untrue) Now, sans hope, my scouting is fire. I wanted Mahomes over Adams. I can pick busts like Josh Rosen from a half mile away. I told everyone who would listen Josh Allen would be special. I called the Becton pick live on a Jets podcast (and I still like that pick). Turns out, being right has to be it's own reward. Because no one will remember your victories but haters will remember your mistakes. this year, I'm ok with any 4/10 pick besides KT and Hamilton. If it were up to me, I'd take Ikey and JJ, look for WR like Alec Pierce or Tyler Lindy at top of rd 2. 3 of the top 4 picks on offense. The defense stinks but Saleh can rebuild using the mid-to-late round picks again. Or not. This 4-3 defense can use a Sauce but it doesn't need one. this isn't Rex Ryan's era the NFL doesn't care one whit about defense. They want shootouts and that's the only way this team can get to 7 or 8 wins is by scoring way more. This franchise has to build around Zach, and despite all this zen talk, drafting a ton of defense doesn't really help Zach. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, peebag said: as well as Lydell Mitchell - that was a backfield. yep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Maynard13 said: I think Sam will one day be a great surfer ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I was excited when Gholston fell to us... /sigh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Odell Was totally wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 13 hours ago, NIGHT STALKER said: He wasn't our #1 pick, but I thought this guy for sure he was going to be our franchise QB...Browning Fing Nagle. Me too. I still say that Coslet destroyed him. People fail to realize how truly stupid Bruce Coslet was. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, chirorob said: I remember how pissed people were we won a game, so we didn't get him, and instead we had to settle for D'Brick, which was pure luck in hindsight. Reggie at least had a good career. I was pissed we missed out on Darren McFadden, who was kind of mediocre, but did have 2 1,000 yard season. I thought the Blair Thomas, Reggie Rembert draft class was going to set us up for a huge offensive upgrade. Oh man, that 90 class!!!…..I was so hyped about getting Rembert and thought BT would at least be a very good back for us. I really wanted Junior Seau (largely because, what a cool ass name…and he did have something like 20 sacks at SC)…all the hype that year was McCants but somehow I don’t remember being that fussed about him.That was a brutal draft for us 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, redlichtie said: Oh man, that 90 class!!!…..I was so hyped about getting Rembert and thought BT would at least be a very good back for us. I really wanted Junior Seau (largely because, what a cool ass name…and he did have something like 20 sacks at SC)…all the hype that year was McCants but somehow I don’t remember being that fussed about him.That was a brutal draft for us I wanted Cortez Kennedy, mainly because I grew up with the Sack Exchange, and thought it'd be great to have a good defensive tackle. However, I though BT would be a really good running back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 14 hours ago, jetstream23 said: +1 I'll throw Stephen Hill in there too. For whatever reason I really thought he become a high-end WR2 in this league. Maybe it was reinforced by his very first NFL game in Week 1 vs Buffalo which turned out to be the best of his entire career. 5 catches, 89 yards, 2 TDs. I loved the that kid the moment he went up on stage and put on the Jets hat. He was was so excited, had a giant, genuine ear-to-ear smile. It’s a real shame it didn’t work out for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Patrick Mahomes. Not many Air Raid college QBs were/are very good pros. I was way off on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Brian Bosworth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, bitonti said: this year, I'm ok with any 4/10 pick besides KT and Hamilton. If it were up to me, I'd take Ikey and JJ, look for WR like Alec Pierce or Tyler Lindy at top of rd 2. 3 of the top 4 picks on offense. The defense stinks but Saleh can rebuild using the mid-to-late round picks again. Or not. This 4-3 defense can use a Sauce but it doesn't need one. this isn't Rex Ryan's era the NFL doesn't care one whit about defense. They want shootouts and that's the only way this team can get to 7 or 8 wins is by scoring way more. This franchise has to build around Zach, and despite all this zen talk, drafting a ton of defense doesn't really help Zach. I'm fine with pass rushers. You can't hit a WR, you can't hit a tight end, but if you can rush the passer you can still stop the other team's offense. That being said, I can't get on board with KT. Every time I start to change my mind, he starts talking, and I'm like, "nope, can't take that risk at #4" And, I'm sorry, you don't take a safety top 10. You want a new OT to be insurance for Becton and take over for Fant in a year, great. You want 1 or 2 pass rushers in the 1st two round, great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I thought Geno Smith was a steal. Paxton Lynch , I was sooooo wrong on that one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, xJayce said: I was excited when Gholston fell to us... /sigh... I wanted Mayo, UT football, knew he was a gamer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 hours ago, peebag said: as well as Lydell Mitchell - that was a backfield. Richie Anderson wasn't so bad for a 5th or 6th. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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