The reason we stink is that the all gas coach praises lazy bums like Quinnen Williams

[hmhertz]

In the last five games QW had 1 QB hit, Nathan Shepherd had five.

 

[MR.GANGGREEN28]

These are the kind of threads we deserve for checking JN at 1:30AM on a Friday night.

[PS17]

Coooool thread brahh

[NYJets8]

What’s the problem? QW isn’t that good

[Mogglez]

You do realize you don’t have to start a thread for every single thought that crosses your mind, right?

[jbt]

2 hours ago, Mogglez said:

You do realize you don’t have to start a thread for every single thought that crosses your mind, right?

[ncjetman]

thanks again for your outstanding contributions to this site - you da man - long live da man !!!!!


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[JiFapono]

[southparkcpa]

5 hours ago, hmhertz said:

In the last five games QW had 1 QB hit, Nathan Shepherd had five.

 

Just let's look at our 1st round picks the last 10 years....  we don't have to do name calling

Our 1st round picks since basically 2009 have been well below average in almost all cases. 

Only 4 are still with the Jets and I'd say none were well above average for any length of time.

 

Perhaps as a player "The Prez" was and then you go back to 2011 and I personally detest Wilkerson who had 1 good year. But other than those 2, who?  I'll leave 2020 and 2021 out of it as it's too early to judge but I wouldn't bet a peanut sandwich on Becton.

 

Put    "Jets last 10 first round picks" in google and WIKI has them fairly quickly. Then pick other teams at random.

I chose Eagles, Rams, Saints... there is a noted difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Crusher]

Link?

[Larz]

It was crazy when he praised Bosa to the point that he was almost out of the league 

[Embrace the Suck]

Has nothing to do with the prior decade of dysfunction. 

[BigRy56]

Oof 

[T0mShane]

They can save $12 million dollars by cutting him after this season, with no dead money. If he puts up another flatline season, I’d imagine the Jets will part ways.

[maury77]

It’s definitely not the reason the Jets have been bad, but I think We have probably seen Quinnen’s cap as a player given that he’s going into his 4th season. He’s pretty good, but he’s not what we were told he was going to be going into the 2019 draft.

[Barton]

Would love to know what the "boat load of picks" offered to Douglas for Quinnen before the 2019 draft really was. 

[slimjasi]

Quinnen is a talented player with good upside, but he’s not a dominant player and he was overdrafted. 
 

i would really like to see what he can do playing with Lawson and another above average edge 

[maury77]

36 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Quinnen is a talented player with good upside, but he’s not a dominant player and he was overdrafted. 
 

i would really like to see what he can do playing with Lawson and another above average edge 

Agreed, but how much upside is left at this point?

[Matt39]

Just now, maury77 said:

Agreed, but how much upside is left at this point?

Up to him. Some guys just dont have the crazed dog mentality. 

[slimjasi]

Just now, maury77 said:

Agreed, but how much upside is left at this point?

Not sure. 

But I'd love to see him double teamed less. I could see his sack numbers going up this year playing alongside Lawson + rookie edge. 

[Fantasy Island]

7 hours ago, Mogglez said:

You do realize you don’t have to start a thread for every single thought that crosses your mind, right?

[Sperm Edwards]

Put aside Aaron Donald who, along with Khan Noonien Singh, was genetically engineered to be better than everyone. He simply chose to dominate the (unaltered) human race rather than sentence it to extinction.

Interpret the chart as you see fit (e.g. win rate doesn't equal sack rate), but it seems the Jets not having a serious edge rusher (let alone two, which they should have this year if they draft right and Lawson actually plays) didn't do their DTs any favors.

[HawkeyeJet]

There are lots of narratives on this board I don’t agree with but the idea that Quinnen is lazy is probably the one I’m most confused about.  Don’t know where that came from or how it exists.

[Bowles Movement]

10 hours ago, hmhertz said:

In the last five games QW had 1 QB hit, Nathan Shepherd had five.

 

You really know how to suck the life out of a party!!   If I was as miserable as you, Id find another way to spend my time.

[More Cowbell]

8 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Put aside Aaron Donald who, along with Khan Noonien Singh, was genetically engineered to be better than everyone. He simply chose to dominate the (unaltered) human race rather than sentence it to extinction.

Interpret the chart as you see fit (e.g. win rate doesn't equal sack rate), but it seems the Jets not having a serious edge rusher (let alone two, which they should have this year if they draft right and Lawson actually plays) didn't do their DTs any favors.

Can I get an Amen?

[the Claw]

Thread-worthy for sure.

[FidelioJet]

9 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Put aside Aaron Donald who, along with Khan Noonien Singh, was genetically engineered to be better than everyone. He simply chose to dominate the (unaltered) human race rather than sentence it to extinction.

Interpret the chart as you see fit (e.g. win rate doesn't equal sack rate), but it seems the Jets not having a serious edge rusher (let alone two, which they should have this year if they draft right and Lawson actually plays) didn't do their DTs any favors.

I think more than anything this illustrates why you shouldn't take a DT so early.  From the perspective of this chart, QW is a top 5 DT in the league yet his impact is negligible.  If you're taking a DT this year - that player better carry Kahn's Wrath or it's simply not a smart move.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

1 hour ago, Barton said:

Would love to know what the "boat load of picks" offered to Douglas for Quinnen before the 2019 draft really was. 

What are you talking about?  Williams was drafted in 2019 and Douglas was not the GM at the time.

[Mogglez]

7 hours ago, Fantasy Island said:

I haven’t started a thread since February 25th.  OP had 4-5 ridiculously titled threads on the front page at the time of my post.  What are you even talking about?

[Hael]

10 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Put aside Aaron Donald who, along with Khan Noonien Singh, was genetically engineered to be better than everyone. He simply chose to dominate the (unaltered) human race rather than sentence it to extinction.

Interpret the chart as you see fit (e.g. win rate doesn't equal sack rate), but it seems the Jets not having a serious edge rusher (let alone two, which they should have this year if they draft right and Lawson actually plays) didn't do their DTs any favors.

That chart does put to rest the tired argument that QW doesn't produce b/c he's doubled all the time.  In fact teams choose to double him less than other DTs.

Overall this puts him middle of the pack IMO.  My biggest issue with QW is that he seems to gas relatively easily, and that he doesn't really maintain gap discipline/falls for traps.

[The Troll]

Well, that explains it.

But what about the previous 10 years?

[Jet_Engine1]

31 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Put aside Aaron Donald who, along with Khan Noonien Singh, was genetically engineered to be better than everyone. He simply chose to dominate the (unaltered) human race rather than sentence it to extinction.

Interpret the chart as you see fit (e.g. win rate doesn't equal sack rate), but it seems the Jets not having a serious edge rusher (let alone two, which they should have this year if they draft right and Lawson actually plays) didn't do their DTs any favors.

"QUINNENNNNNN!"

[C Mart]

11 hours ago, hmhertz said:

In the last five games QW had 1 QB hit, Nathan Shepherd had five.

 

I question QWs yearly end of season quote “I need to dominate next season”. That said, wasn’t he playing with an injured shoulder?

https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/.amp/news/new-york-jets-tackle-quinnen-williams-old-school-impression-shoulder-injury

[naturalscience]

Quotas?

[hmhertz]

12 hours ago, NYJets8 said:

What’s the problem? QW isn’t that good

The problem is the basis of our D is to play all gas and Williams

gas tank reads empty