Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 A link where he discusses some Jets thoughts… https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/around-the-nfl/id680904259?i=1000557657608 About halfway into this interview, the host presses Jeremiah to say something about the Jets, and Jeremiah makes the following interesting points— 1. Point One: Before mentioning any players that the Jets might want, he says that he’s curious to see how the Jets use this year’s draft capital to set themselves up for next year’s draft, which is new. 2. Feels that the Jets should just go ahead and take their receiver at 4, even if it’s a perceived reach, because they have to get Zach to play well right now and no pass rusher is going to do that for them. 3. Jeremiah “loves” London, but feels that Garrett Wilson is head and shoulders the best receiver in the draft because he can do everything. 4. Says (in support of taking WR over EDGE at 4) that the Jets are probably a six win team regardless, and that their prime imperative is to exit the season feeling like Zach can play, which I would presume ties into his thought that the Jets should try to load up picks in 2023 in the event that they have to replace Zach. 16 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 I'm totally fine taking my favorite WR at 4, but I am skeptical Douglas would really do it. I would respect it. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Pencil us in for 6 wins! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, T0mShane said: A link where he discusses some Jets thoughts… https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/around-the-nfl/id680904259?i=1000557657608 About halfway into this interview, the host presses Jeremiah to say something about the Jets, and Jeremiah makes the following interesting points— 1. Point One: Before mentioning any players that the Jets might want, he says that he’s curious to see how the Jets use this year’s draft capital to set themselves up for next year’s draft, which is new. 2. Feels that the Jets should just go ahead and take their receiver at 4, even if it’s a perceived reach, because they have to get Zach to play well right now and no pass rusher is going to do that for them. 3. Jeremiah “loves” London, but feels that Garrett Wilson is head and shoulders the best receiver in the draft because he can do everything. 4. Says (in support of taking WR over EDGE at 4) that the Jets are probably a six win team regardless, and that their prime imperative is to exit the season feeling like Zach can play, which I would presume ties into his thought that the Jets should try to load up picks in 2023 in the event that they have to replace Zach. i am a supporter of Joe Douglas, but if we are relatively healthy and a 6 win team then blow this sh*t up...again. smh. 4 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 All that seems logical to me 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 There is no super WR worth #4 pick, do not do it! That would be a large mistake. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: A link where he discusses some Jets thoughts… https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/around-the-nfl/id680904259?i=1000557657608 About halfway into this interview, the host presses Jeremiah to say something about the Jets, and Jeremiah makes the following interesting points— 1. Point One: Before mentioning any players that the Jets might want, he says that he’s curious to see how the Jets use this year’s draft capital to set themselves up for next year’s draft, which is new. 2. Feels that the Jets should just go ahead and take their receiver at 4, even if it’s a perceived reach, because they have to get Zach to play well right now and no pass rusher is going to do that for them. 3. Jeremiah “loves” London, but feels that Garrett Wilson is head and shoulders the best receiver in the draft because he can do everything. 4. Says (in support of taking WR over EDGE at 4) that the Jets are probably a six win team regardless, and that their prime imperative is to exit the season feeling like Zach can play, which I would presume ties into his thought that the Jets should try to load up picks in 2023 in the event that they have to replace Zach. So, everything I’ve be been saying, except without the superior simian intellect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 Take the #3 weapon from the Ohio State passing game at #4 overall Brilliant guys like Jeremiah actually get paid for this “expert analysis” you line up GW vs Sauce 100 times in press man who wins? my money is on Sauce at least 90 out of 100 times GW was out there putting double moves on future pizza delivery guys standing 10+ yards off the LOS 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZachEY Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 41 minutes ago, Beerfish said: There is no super WR worth #4 pick, do not do it! That would be a large mistake. Honestly, in everything I've read (not that much), how many players in this draft are truly worth a top 5 pick? Hutch, Neal, Sauce? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 Just now, ZachEY said: Honestly, in everything I've read (not that much), how many players in this draft are truly worth a top 5 pick? Hutch, Neal, Sauce? remember when Watson and mahomes weren’t worth a top 10 QB selection? Remember when people on this board got laughed at for saying the jets should take Metcalf #3 overall in 2019? Worth is in the eye of the beholder and there are busts everywhere. Might as well just take who you like 12 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 46 minutes ago, Beerfish said: There is no super WR worth #4 pick, do not do it! That would be a large mistake. But let’s say the jets really like jermaine Johnson, and for the sake of argument, Garrett Wilson. They think Johnson will be there at 10 but doubt Atlanta will pass on Wilson - why would it be so bad to just take Wilson first? 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: A link where he discusses some Jets thoughts… https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/around-the-nfl/id680904259?i=1000557657608 About halfway into this interview, the host presses Jeremiah to say something about the Jets, and Jeremiah makes the following interesting points— 1. Point One: Before mentioning any players that the Jets might want, he says that he’s curious to see how the Jets use this year’s draft capital to set themselves up for next year’s draft, which is new. 2. Feels that the Jets should just go ahead and take their receiver at 4, even if it’s a perceived reach, because they have to get Zach to play well right now and no pass rusher is going to do that for them. 3. Jeremiah “loves” London, but feels that Garrett Wilson is head and shoulders the best receiver in the draft because he can do everything. 4. Says (in support of taking WR over EDGE at 4) that the Jets are probably a six win team regardless, and that their prime imperative is to exit the season feeling like Zach can play, which I would presume ties into his thought that the Jets should try to load up picks in 2023 in the event that they have to replace Zach. Yes, I'm a known Douglas pessimist, but honest question to all of you: are you really willing to give Douglas another season if the Jets go 6-11? That would be 19 wins over his 4 seasons, which comes out to an average of less than 5 wins a season. That's pretty pathetic. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, maury77 said: Yes, I'm a known Douglas pessimist, but honest question to all of you: are you really willing to give Douglas another season if the Jets go 6-11? That would be 19 wins over his 4 seasons, which comes out to an average of less than 5 wins a season. That's pretty pathetic. I have trouble counting the first season against Douglas. He was hired in June. By next season, he will have had three complete off-seasons to improve the team. The only way 6 wins works is if Zach Wilson looks like he's going to be really good and we just lost some close games. Otherwise, I think we need a minimum of 7-8 wins to feel good about JD going forward. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, slimjasi said: But let’s say the jets really like jermaine Johnson, and for the sake of argument, Garrett Wilson. They think Johnson will be there at 10 but doubt Atlanta will pass on Wilson - why would it be so bad to just take Wilson first? If the jets think he is worthy of 4 and far and away the best wr then they should pick him. I like the player well enough but we will imo be passing on much better players if we do that. There are enough good wr and pass ushers that unless you are sure your guys is by far the best take the better players at other positions. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 The most assinine thing the Jets can do at #4 is pick a WR. At #4 you pick a no brainer. Someone you cannot get at #10. The Jets are picking an OL. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 At #10 the Jets can get an equivalent WR or DE they would get at #4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 I think DJ’s take on the 2023 class is reasonable. I don’t think the Jets are honestly setting up like they’ll pick at 4 and 10, but maybe I’m wrong. He’s a good analyst overall and fun to listen to but I don’t think he’s good at scouting receivers and don’t think the rationale for WR at 4 meshes with how Douglas drafts. Everybody’s going to talk about how important WR is and Douglas is going to like, trade down from 35 or 38 to the 50’s and take Alec Pierce or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bla bla bla Posted April 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2022 For what it's worth, under Jordan Palmers photo of Drake Londons Pro-Day it reads "Take Flight" 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 JDs track record Rd 1. Trenches (ok Wilson lol) Rd 2. WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freestater Posted April 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: I have trouble counting the first season against Douglas. He was hired in June. it was his most successful season thus far 1 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, ZachEY said: Honestly, in everything I've read (not that much), how many players in this draft are truly worth a top 5 pick? Hutch, Neal, Sauce? These 3, plus Icky is what I’ve read. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, maury77 said: Yes, I'm a known Douglas pessimist, but honest question to all of you: are you really willing to give Douglas another season if the Jets go 6-11? That would be 19 wins over his 4 seasons, which comes out to an average of less than 5 wins a season. That's pretty pathetic. Yes! If Gase was the worst HC of all time, as many claim (he’s definitely in the conversation) why should that be held against Douglas? He didn’t hire Gase. Meanwhile the football operation truly became Douglas’s Jan ‘21. So since then his operation and HC hire are improving going from 4 to 6 wins. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 The Jets will consider 4 Edge rushers (JJ, Hutch, Thib and Walker), Ekwonu, Neal and Gardner at 4. Depending on who is available. I think once all is said and done Neal, Hutch and Thib are going top 3. So that leaves JJ, Walker, Ekwonu and Gardner. The Jets are not taking a WR at 4. They are not taking Hamilton at 4. They are not taking any other prospect at 4. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 hours ago, maury77 said: Yes, I'm a known Douglas pessimist, but honest question to all of you: are you really willing to give Douglas another season if the Jets go 6-11? That would be 19 wins over his 4 seasons, which comes out to an average of less than 5 wins a season. That's pretty pathetic. Not all six-win teams are created equal. If Wilson improves and Garrett Wilson/Elijah Moore show signs of becoming a deadly duo there's reason for hope despite six wins. If all 11 losses are close games that's a reason for hope. If Douglas nails this draft, like he did last year, there will be much reason for hope. If the defense improves to the 15-20 range, there will be reason for hope. If Douglas gets his Edge and WR of the future, there will be hope. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 The Jets Always taking about next year before this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 39 minutes ago, C Mart said: Yes! If Gase was the worst HC of all time, as many claim (he’s definitely in the conversation) why should that be held against Douglas? He didn’t hire Gase. Meanwhile the football operation truly became Douglas’s Jan ‘21. So since then his operation and HC hire are improving going from 4 to 6 wins. All personnel , front office and basically anything having to do with decisions about football operations made after June 7 of 2019 are on Douglas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 4 hours ago, k-met57 said: i am a supporter of Joe Douglas, but if we are relatively healthy and a 6 win team then blow this sh*t up...again. smh. And it would be another 5 years if we did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RutgersJetFan Posted April 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2022 Pretty dope that we’re not even at the draft yet and they’re already acknowledging they won’t be making the playoffs. The Douglas era is like being gaslit by Biff Tannen. 2 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Cyberjet said: The most assinine thing the Jets can do at #4 is pick a WR. At #4 you pick a no brainer. Someone you cannot get at #10. The Jets are picking an OL. No they’re not. They are taking Sauce or Thibs. And if both are gone, which is remotely possible, then I think JD may even trade back for extra picks. Either way, JD is not taking an OL at 4 or 10. It would be ridiculous for numerous reasons. 1- The OL is SET. JD just spent big bucks on Tomlinson to round out the OL. 2- We have zero pass rush and were run over like wild horses ? ? ? ? ? by many teams last year. And there’s just no telling how effective Lawson will be this year after his injury. Regardless, Saleh wants pass rushers. Period. I can see JD even grabbing another sleeper edge later in the draft. 3- After edge at 4, JD must get a WR or CB. If Thibs is the pick at 4, and Sauce is gone by 10, JD will take Stingley. WR will have to wait. Jd could trade back into 1st round, which I hope he doesn’t, for a WR. There’s a few good ones in round 2 that could be snatched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Maynard13 said: No they’re not. They are taking Sauce or Thibs. And if both are gone, which is remotely possible, then I think JD may even trade back for extra picks. Either way, JD is not taking an OL at 4 or 10. It would be ridiculous for numerous reasons. 1- The OL is SET. JD just spent big bucks on Tomlinson to round out the OL. 2- We have zero pass rush and were run over like wild horses ? ? ? ? ? by many teams last year. And there’s just no telling how effective Lawson will be this year after his injury. Regardless, Saleh wants pass rushers. Period. I can see JD even grabbing another sleeper edge later in the draft. 3- After edge at 4, JD must get a WR or CB. If Thibs is the pick at 4, and Sauce is gone by 10, JD will take Stingley. WR will have to wait. Jd could trade back into 1st round, which I hope he doesn’t, for a WR. There’s a few good ones in round 2 that could be snatched. If there is no player there at 4 worthy enough for the nyj with all our needs, that pick isn’t worthy for a trade up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, oatmeal said: If there is no player there at 4 worthy enough for the nyj with all our needs, that pick isn’t worthy for a trade up Sure there is. Desperate teams take desperate measures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 6 hours ago, BettyBoop said: Not all six-win teams are created equal. If Wilson improves and Garrett Wilson/Elijah Moore show signs of becoming a deadly duo there's reason for hope despite six wins. If all 11 losses are close games that's a reason for hope. If Douglas nails this draft, like he did last year, there will be much reason for hope. If the defense improves to the 15-20 range, there will be reason for hope. If Douglas gets his Edge and WR of the future, there will be hope. i agree with this. if he gets us another WR that can team with Moore and is exciting and get a pass rusher then 6 wins can save him. but if he does some stupid sh*t like take a OL where he has to trade Fant or Becton so this kid can start or draft a CB where Hall is traded and wins 6 games then he is done because of stupidity. there is going to be 2 or 3 good WRs taking in rd 1. he has to get one of them. even if he has to reach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 If the Jets can’t win more then 6 games that means two things a) Zach Wilson didn’t play well b) This roster is not close to competing in 2023 Which May make us ask the fundamental question. WTF is Joe Douglas doing besides losing football games that make you all think he’s so smart. This guy make a great traveling con man back in the day. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Yes, I'm a known Douglas pessimist, but honest question to all of you: are you really willing to give Douglas another season if the Jets go 6-11? That would be 19 wins over his 4 seasons, which comes out to an average of less than 5 wins a season. That's pretty pathetic. Overall record is overused, IMHO. If the Jets go 17-0, tear through the playoffs and win the Superbowl 70-0 we will still have a losing record under Joe Douglas.The only record that counts is the upcoming year. Yes, 6-11 may not be what we want, and will leave a lot of posters here upset. But more important will be the "eye test" on whether we look like a credible team or a bunch of horses' asses. No more so than at QB - give me a team that scores far more points than last year, even if we're losing shootouts. Better than losing blowouts.Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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