Odds of Icky at 4 just increased dramatically

[HawkeyeJet]

 

[PS17]

Lmao. What a fat 400 pound waste. 

[HawkeyeJet]

I’ve defended Becton.  Wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt.  I won’t defend him going forward.

[Embrace the Suck]

Hope he shows up in shape. We'll find out a week from now what the team thinks of MB.

[PS17]

Still need edge at 4 and WR at 10. We can get a right tackle in the 2nd.

[Sammybighead]

saw a similar report about kadarius toney on the giants. I shrugged my shoulders and said who cares, it's mid april voluntary practice. I'll say the same for Becton. But he better show up to camp under 350lbs.

[PS17]

2 minutes ago, Sammybighead said:

saw a similar report about kadarius toney on the giants. I shrugged my shoulders and said who cares, it's mid april voluntary practice. I'll say the same for Becton. But he better show up to camp under 350lbs.

One would think that if you’re already on thin ice with the coaching staff, you’d show up to the workouts. Becton is lazy and stupid. 

[peebag]

1 minute ago, PS17 said:

One would think that if you’re already on thin ice with the coaching staff, you’d show up to the workouts. Becton is lazy and stupid. 

Who on the Jets staff has said he's on "thin ice"?

[Columbia Jet Fan]

38 + Becton for one of Saints first rounders? 

 

[Thai Jet]

9 minutes ago, PS17 said:

Lmao. What a fat 400 pound waste. 

Sad but true. You like to think Fat Boy would be the 1st one there. ?

[Spoot-Face]

Perhaps Becton just trusts his personal trainer to get him in shape more? I'm gonna reserve judgement for when he shows up to training camp.

Unless, of course, we trade him before then and draft his replacement. I'd prefer we didn't have to do that, but I'd at least respect JD for being decisive and moving on if he thinks his #1 pick was a bust. What I absolutely do not want is for them to draft an OT in the first 3 rounds and have all 3 (rookie, Fant, Becton) on the roster on gameday.

[Irish Jet]

We need to bring fat shaming back as a society.

[Thai Jet]

9 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I’ve defended Becton.  Wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt.  I won’t defend him going forward.

It would be a lonely island. 

[oatmeal]

4 minutes ago, PS17 said:

One would think that if you’re already on thin ice with the coaching staff, you’d show up to the workouts. Becton is lazy and stupid. 

 Not showing up for “voluntary” workouts = Lazy and stupid????
 

okay I guess ?‍♂️

[DonCorleone]

12 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

 

What a waste of an early 1st round pick. I don't care how voluntary they are. He should be there in light of the fact that he has not yet paid 16 games in 2 seasons. 

[UntouchableCrew]

It's gonna be Icky at 4. Becton is out of here.

[Greenseed4]

9 minutes ago, PS17 said:

Still need edge at 4 and WR at 10. We can get a right tackle in the 2nd.

This. 

Tyler Smith, Kenyon Green, Zion Johnson, Sean Rhyan, maybe even Trevor Penning (with a slight trade up) could all be good options, and at least one will drop into the 2nd. 

[derp]

I still can’t see a team that spend the second pick on a QB last year spending the fourth pick this year on a tackle who has questions about his pass protection.

With all of the Ekwonu rumblings it would also annoy me for a pick that isn’t necessarily the most obvious with Fant and Becton on the team to have leaked out. Team needs to keep their intentions quiet. I’d almost be less bothered by Neal for that reason.

All that said, and there’s no way this is the actually case but it popped into my head, how awesome would it be if with all the Becton questions they decided to lean into a tackle smokescreen and told him to stay in Dallas and skip OTA’s to sell it. Not the case, but I wish it was.

[derp]

1 minute ago, Greenseed4 said:

This. 

Tyler Smith, Kenyon Green, Zion Johnson, Sean Rhyan, maybe even Trevor Penning (with a slight trade up) could all be good options, and at least one will drop into the 2nd. 

At least three of those guys project as guards.

[THE BARON]

13 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said:

Hope he shows up in shape. We'll find out a week from now what the team thinks of MB.

The chance of that happening is somewhere between imagination and vapor 

[section314]

2 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

It's gonna be Icky at 4. Becton is out of here.

If they go LT, has to be Cross or Penning. Icky seems more RT or G. 

[Big_Slick]

Wise move is to take Ickey at #4 if he's there. SOB Becton. That fat lazy slob just cost us the chance at a game changing Edge - Walker or Thibs would have been great but we have to protect ZW.

[THE BARON]

3 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

It's gonna be Icky at 4. Becton is out of here.

I WISH I could be sure.  I believe the Jags or Texans may snatch him.  Ickey and Sauce, two best prospects in the draft, and every GM knows it. 

[Larz]

We go through this every year. It’s voluntary. 
 

with the Jets injury history he’s probably better off with other trainers anyway lol

[HawkeyeJet]

For the record, even if they are considering moving on from Becton, I actually don’t want them to consider a tackle at 4.

I just thought it was an attention grabbing thread title. ?

[RedBeardedSavage]

A shame, too, considering acquiring DeeBo is on the table.

Theoretically, if we didn't need a tackle, I'd rather trade the 10 and keep the day 2 picks - but now needing a tackle, I feel like I need one top ten for an edge player and another for a tackle.

Probably have to go tackle first between those two picks as well.

Meaning we can only offer day 2 picks for Deebo or sacrifice acquiring a pass rusher in the draft. 

[UntouchableCrew]

3 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

I WISH I could be sure.  I believe the Jags or Texans may snatch him.  Ickey and Sauce, two best prospects in the draft, and every GM knows it. 

I'm fine with that because it means we get KT.

[Jack Straw]

Optics matter. Becton is a typical 23 year old snowflake who get wildly offended because people have the audacity to hold him accountable for how he shows up to work. His job is arguably the most important on the field: protecting the blindside of your franchise QB from killers.

And how did he show up to work last year? Fat and unmotivated. He was a human turnstile in training camp and was beat by a drum multiple times a day by Carl Lawson. He is unreliable, injury prone, and untrustworthy. Fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me.

The only two things I care about are availability and trustworthiness and Becton has done nothing to earn either of those things. He has no right to protect the QB's blindside. Get him off this roster for all I care and use a day two pick on an OT.

[section314]

2 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

For the record, even if they are considering moving on from Becton, I actually don’t want them to consider a tackle at 4.

I just thought it was an attention grabbing thread title. ?

Your main point though, is spot on. A 3rd year guy who has proven jack sh*t in this league should be at the facility with his teammates to prove he's "all in." Pretty simple.

[Adoni Beast]

At this point it SHOULD be Icky at 4 and WR at 10.

Trade Becton for a 2nd or even a 3rd at this point he is a culture killer to keep him on.

2020 draft class looking absolutely atrocious...like all time bad for the Jets and THAT is saying something!

[HawkeyeJet]

Just now, section314 said:

Your main point though, is spot on. A 3rd year guy who has proven jack sh*t in this league should be at the facility with his teammates to prove he's "all in." Pretty simple.

Yeah optics are a legitimate thing and the optics here are bad.

[Hal N of Provo]

A) Diva mad about having to compete for LT?

Diva who thinks he’s too special for the team workouts? 

C) Diva who blames the Jets staff for him showing up to camp out of shape and overweight last year?  

D) Hard working guy who feels like his career is on the line and he’s betting on himself to be so good because he’s working hard that he will be in a better position overcome the bad look of not showing up by working out hard… 

I mean, I’d like for it to be the last scenario… but even that scenario isn’t great and it seems less likely.  

[Paradis]

FWIW; everything i hear says the Jets board is #1 Thibs, #2 Ekwonu

Obviously i can't speak to how things will crystalize next week and if arguments are being made to flip that order -- but you can feel pretty confident that it'll be one of the two if available 

[doitny]

13 minutes ago, Columbia Jet Fan said:

38 + Becton for one of Saints first rounders? 

 

what makes you think someone wants to give up a 1st for Becton? would you trade a 1 to get Becton right now? 

he is probably worth a 4th. maybe a 3rd if JD gives up another pick going with him.

[THE BARON]

1 minute ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I'm fine with that because it means we get KT.

I dont think JD can afford to go with the boom or bust prospect with Thibs. 

It may be Evan Neal if Ickey is gone.  They REALLY need another top notch tackle.  

If Ickey is gone and they dont rate Neal highly enough to fill the need, I expect it will be Sauce or Kyle Hamilton. 

Ickey, Sauce and Hamilton are the three most complete players in the daft.