Jets Pre-Draft Roster and Analysis - (In my opinion)

[Sarge4Tide]

PRE-DRAFT ROSTER UPDATE AND ANALYSIS

JETS 6 MOST URGENT NEEDS IN THE 2022 DRAFT

1. Wide Receiver
2. Linebacker
3. Edge Rusher
4. Cornerback
5. Back Up Offensive Line
6. Back Up Running Back

ROSTER ANALYSIS

• BOLD GREEN = Core player / Starter
• Green = Contributor / Key Backup / Special Teams Core
• BOLD ORANGE = On the Bubble leaning to making the team
• Orange = On the Bubble leaning to not making the team
• Red = Seems like a longshot
• BOLD RED = Almost certainly will not make the team

OFFENSE  

Quarterback  

1.   2 - Zach Wilson  6'2" 214 BYU (QB)  
2. 19 - Joe Flacco 6'6" 245 Delaware (QB) 
3.   5 - Mike White 6'5" 218 Western Kentucky (QB)  

Running Back   

1. 32 - Michael Carter  5'8" 201 North Carolina (RB)  
2. 23 - Tevin Coleman 6'1" 210 Indiana (RB)   
3. 25 - Ty Johnson 5'10" 210 Maryland (RB)  
4. 22 - La'Michael Perine 5'11" 216 Florida  (RB)   
5. 36 - Austin Walter 5'8" 202 Rice (HB)   (?)
6. 48 - Nick Bawden 6'2" 245 San Diego St  (FB)  

Tight End    

1. xx - CJ Uzomah 6'6" 260 Auburn (TE)    
2. xx - Tyler Conklin 6'3" 248 Central Michigan (TE)  
3. 85 - Trevon Wesco 6'3" 267  West Virginia  (TE/FB)    
4. 83 - Kenny Yeboah 6'4" 250 Mississippi (TE)   
5. xx - Lawrence Cager 6'5" 220 Georgia (TE/WR)      
6. 44 - Brandon Dillon 6'5" 250 Marian (TE)      

Wide Receiver   

1. 84 - Corey Davis 6'3" 209 Western Michigan (WR)   
2.   8 - Elijah Moore  5'10" 178 Mississippi (WR) 
3. 10 - Braxton Berrios  5'9" 190  Miami (FL) (WR/KR)      
4. 11 - Denzel Mims 6'3" 207 Baylor (WR)  
5. 16 - Jeff Smith 6'0" 195  Boston College   (WR)     
6. 14 - DJ Montgomery 6'1" 201 Austin Peay (WR)      
7.   3 - Tarik Black 6'3" 213 Texas (WR)    
8. xx - Rodney Adams 6'1" 190 USF (WR)      

Offensive Line   

1. 76 - George Fant 6'5" 322 Western Kentucky (T)    
2. xx - Laken Tomlinson 6'3" 315 Duke (G)    
3. 77 - Mekhi Becton 6'7" 365 Louisville (T)   
4. 75 - Alijah Vera-Tucker 6'4" 308 USC (G)   
5. 60 - Conner McGovern 6'4" 306 Missouri (C)       
6. 62 - Greg Van Roten 6'3" 303 Penn (G)     
7. 70 - Chuma Edoga 6'3" 308 USC (T)      
8. 67 - Dan Feeney 6'4" 310 Indiana (G/C)   
9. 69 - Conor McDermott 6'8" 305 UCLA (G/T)  
10. 71 - Isaiah WIlliams 6'3" 295 Akron (T/G)  
11. 68 - Parker Ferguson 6'4" 306 Air Force (G/T)  
12. 78 - Grant Hermanns 6'7" 305 Purdue (T)     
13. xx - Greg Senat 6'6" 305 Wagner (T)   
14. 66 - Ross Pierschbacher 6'4" 315 Alabama (G/C)      
15. 65 - Dru Samia 6'5" 308 Oklahoma (G) 
16. 72 - Cameron Clark 6'3" 308 UNC-Charlotte (G/T)    *** Retired Injury *** ???

DEFENSE

Defensive Line  

"EDGE"

1. 58 - Carl Lawson 6'2" 265 Auburn (DE)    
2. 91 - John Franklin-Myers  6'4" 288  Stephen F Austin   (DE)   
3. 47 - Bryce Huff 6'3" 255 Memphis (DE)    
4. 99 - Vinny Curry 6'3" 279 Marshall (DE)
5. xx - Solomon Thomas 6'3" 280 Stanford (DE) 
6. xx - Jacob Martin 6'2" 242 Temple (DE/LB)  
7. 92 - Jabari Zuniga  6'3" 264 Florida (DE)  
8. 51 - Tim Ward 6'6" 255 Old Dominion (DE)      
9. 55 - Hamilcar Rashed Jr. 6'2" 251 Oregon State (DE)    
10. xx - Bradlee Anae 6'3" 260 Utah (DL)   

"INTERIOR"

1. 95 - Quinnen Williams 6'3" 303 Alabama  (DT)   
2. 98 - Sheldon Rankins 6'2" 305 Louisville (DT) 
3. 97 - Nathan Shepherd 6'4" 315 Ft. Hays State (DE/DT)   
4. 96 - Jonathan Marshall 6'3" 310 Arkansas (DT)     
5. 79 - Tanzel Smart 6'1" 296 Tulane (DL)     

Linebacker  

1. 57 - CJ Mosley 6'2" 250 Alabama (ILB)   
2. 56 - Quincey Williams 5'11" 225 Murray State (LB) 
3. 44 - Jamien Sherwood  6'2" 216 Auburn (OLB)  
4. 45 - Hamsah Nasirildeen   6'3" 215 Florida State (OLB) 
5. 43 - Del'Shawn Phillips 6'2" 230 Illinois (LB)  
6.  9 - Javin White   6'2" 211 UNLV (OLB/S?) 
7. xx - Marcell Harris   6'0" 215 Florida (OLB/S?)  

Cornerback

1. xx - DJ Reed 5'9" 193 Kansas State (CB)   
2. 37 - Bryce Hall 6'1" 202 UVA (CB)   (expires 2024)
3. 26 - Brandin Echols  5'10" 180 Kentucky (CB) 
4. 30 - Michael Carter II 5'10" 184 Duke (S/CB)
5. 40 - Javelin Guidry 5'9" 191 Utah (CB) 
6. 34 - Justin Hardee 6'1" 194 Illinois (CB) 
7. 27 - Isaiah Dunn 5'11" 189 Oregon State (CB)  
8. 33 - Zane Lewis 6'1" 190 Air Force (DB / S?)
9. 29 - Rachard Wildgoose 5'10" 191 Wisconsin (CB)   

Safety  

1. xx - Jordan Whitehead 5'10" 198 Pitt (S)   
2. 29 - Lamarcus Joyner 5'8" 185 Florida State (S/CB)  
3. 21 - Ashtyn Davis 6'1" 202 Cal (S)  (expires 2024)
4. 41 - Jason Pinnock 6'0" 205 Pitt (S/CB)    
5. 39 - Will Parks 6'0" 200 Arizona (S)  
6. 33 - Elijah Riley 6'0" 205 Army (S)   
7.   1 - Kai Nacua  6'0" 205 BYU (S)   
8. xx - Jovante Moffatt 5'11" 213 MTSU (S)   

 

SPECIALISTS  

Punter 

1. 7 - Braden Mann 5'11" 198 Texas A+M (P)   

Kicker  

1. XX - Greg Zuerlein 6'0" 191 Missouri West (PK)  
2. 15 - Eddy Pinero 6'0" 185 Florida (PK)    

Long Snapper    

1. 42 - Thomas Hennessy 6'2" 246 Duke (LS) 

[Jets Things]

I'm severely colorblind. This thread mocks me. Now I'm sad. 

[Integrity28]

I think this all tracks with my expectations.

Was there a poll to do with this one? ?

[peekskill68]

I think you may be under estimating need at IDL.  Even with JFM playing more on the inside, this whole scheme is based on applying pressure from the front four.  Q is coming off a so-so season and the rest of the roster is basically stop gaps and JAGs

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, peekskill68 said:

I think you may be under estimating need at IDL.  Even with JFM playing more on the inside, this whole scheme is based on applying pressure from the front four.  Q is coming off a so-so season and the rest of the roster is basically stop gaps and JAGs

Must be his 2010s PTSD from all those DT picks.  I don’t blame him.  

[PepPep]

21 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

JETS 6 MOST URGENT NEEDS IN THE 2022 DRAFT

1. Wide Receiver
2. Linebacker
3. Edge Rusher
4. Cornerback
5. Back Up Offensive Line
6. Back Up Running Back

CB should be #6 on the list. DJ Reed, Hall, Echols, Carter II, Guidry. Thats a solid group of guys who can play on the boundary and in the slot- with at least one (DJ Reed) you can feel confident going up against top WRs.  

Also, what I don't see is FS on the list. Sure, between Joyner, Davis, Pinnock, Parks, and Riley, someone will hopefully themselves as the starter. But right now the Jets lost their starting FS in Maye and have not replaced him with a legit starter.  

[Integrity28]

4 minutes ago, peekskill68 said:

I think you may be under estimating need at IDL.  Even with JFM playing more on the inside, this whole scheme is based on applying pressure from the front four.  Q is coming off a so-so season and the rest of the roster is basically stop gaps and JAGs

This, we need to leave this draft with another IDL. Or sign a vet after.

[Integrity28]

27 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

JETS 6 MOST URGENT NEEDS IN THE 2022 DRAFT

1. Wide Receiver
2. Linebacker
3. Edge Rusher
4. Cornerback
5. Back Up Offensive Line
6. Back Up Running Back

1. Edge

2. WR

3. OT (sorry, Mekhi is backup until he’s not)

4. LB

5. Early down RB

6. Defensive backs

[Larz]

Biggest need is QB

[Bowles Movement]

I’d add free safety to the list of needs.

[GKnight83]

I do not see the priorities the same as you do but I think your player ratings are right on.

1.  I do not think the OL is at expectation yet

2.  I like a WR here but not Deebo - if we add one it should be an X1, not a trick pony.

3. Hard to argue against 1 or 2 edge picks.  Though the DT would be an interesting pick too.

4.  Always need a good LB

5.  Would not mind a Riggins/Czonka type RB.  I hate RBs that dance.*

 

* One of my favorite Jet game moments - my partner and I were in one of the endzone first level seats and McNeil had a run.  It was freezing and the only thing warm was the 1942 we snuck into the game with us.  After what looked to be a short gain, a collective grunt from those in our area, I starting dispensing a round of shots to those in our area, the announcer said...."Freeman McNeil, 24 yard gain."  My partner then said the only way we would get better seats is when they build a new stadium.  He was right.

[slats]

Nice work, Sarge. I’d put Edge above LB due to positional importance/value, but we’ll done. Feeney’s contract is fully guaranteed, so I’d put him in green, too. RB looks like a bigger concern here. Still some good ones available in free agency, though. 

[Bungaman]

27 minutes ago, Jets Things said:

I'm severely colorblind. This thread mocks me. Now I'm sad. 

The lists at each position look to be in order of likelihood - so the color scheme is kind of redundant. Hope that helps ...

[slats]

14 minutes ago, peekskill68 said:

I think you may be under estimating need at IDL.  Even with JFM playing more on the inside, this whole scheme is based on applying pressure from the front four.  Q is coming off a so-so season and the rest of the roster is basically stop gaps and JAGs

I’d probably list JFM and Solomon Thomas as DTs, because that’s where I expect them to mostly line up this year. 

[ncjetman]

i think douglas recently gave feeney a new contract - if so he will make the team


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[Jets Things]

9 minutes ago, Bungaman said:

The lists at each position look to be in order of likelihood - so the color scheme is kind of redundant. Hope that helps ...

I definitely picked that up quickly, but I feel left out. ?

[freestater]

It depresses me that as of now, when Becton goes down, we have Edoga and McDermott poised to be in the lineup. 

[freestater]

Just now, Jets Things said:

I definitely picked that up quickly, but I feel left out. ?

Have you seen the glasses for colorblindness?

 

[Bungaman]

Just now, Jets Things said:

I definitely picked that up quickly, but I feel left out. ?

Well, for me, most things need to be color coded and ranked with numbers or letters - and I still can't figure it out. 

[jetstream23]

54 minutes ago, peekskill68 said:

I think you may be under estimating need at IDL.  Even with JFM playing more on the inside, this whole scheme is based on applying pressure from the front four.  Q is coming off a so-so season and the rest of the roster is basically stop gaps and JAGs

I think Solomon Thomas plays inside as well.

What did Jets may be lacking is a big run stuffer next to an interior 3-technique DT like Quinnen.

There are some day 2 and day 3 guys like that. guys with only modest pass rush skills but really good against the run. You can typically get them later in the draft. Their names are escaping me now but there’s that kid from Connecticut, I think Mathis from Alabama, etc.

[jetstream23]

34 minutes ago, freestater said:

It depresses me that as of now, when Becton goes down, we have Edoga and McDermott poised to be in the lineup. 

JD won’t accept that. Even with Morgan Moses as his OT3 last year, Conor McDermott played in six games. He started three of them. This Jets team is one injury to George Fant away from complete disaster and dysfunction on offense.

Do we know if this GM places any value on offensive line? Answer: He does. Big time.

Ekwonu makes a ton of sense for this team at #4.

[SickJetFan]

85 - Trevon Wesco 6'3" 267  West Virginia  (TE/FB)   - sh/be orange

xx - Solomon Thomas 6'3" 280 Stanford (DE)  sh/be green - unless they get totally outplayed by someone I dont see him getting cut

xx - Jacob Martin 6'2" 242 Temple (DE/LB)  sh/be green - unless they get totally outplayed by someone I dont see him getting cut

99 - Vinny Curry 6'3" 279 Marshall (DE) sh not be bold - doubt he makes final cut

97 - Nathan Shepherd 6'4" 315 Ft. Hays State (DE/DT)   unless he surprises I doubt he makes it past final cut

34 - Justin Hardee 6'1" 194 Illinois (CB) altho he vocal and ST captain with all new young blood I would not consider green

 

 

[freestater]

2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

JD won’t accept that. Even with Morgan Moses as his OT3 last year, Conor McDermott played in six games. He started three of them. This Jets team is one injury to George Fant away from complete disaster and dysfunction on offense.

Do we know if this GM places any value on offensive line? Answer: He does. Big time.

Ekwonu makes a ton of sense for this team at #4.

I'm completely fine with that. Especially with the medical rumor about Raimann now. I've said it before, drafting o-line should be like voting in Chicago...early and often. 

[docdhc]

37 minutes ago, freestater said:

Have you seen the glasses for colorblindness?

Got my son these. He’s orange/green color blind. They didn’t work at all.  

[peekskill68]

14 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

I think Solomon Thomas plays inside as well.

What did Jets may be lacking is a big run stuffer next to an interior 3-technique DT like Quinnen.

There are some day 2 and day 3 guys like that. guys with only modest pass rush skills but really good against the run. You can typically get them later in the draft. Their names are escaping me now but there’s that kid from Connecticut, I think Mathis from Alabama, etc.

UConn guy  I think is Travis Jones and if he's still there would likely go early 2nd round

[jetstream23]

2 minutes ago, peekskill68 said:

UConn guy  I think is Travis Jones and if he's still there would likely go early 2nd round

Yes, that’s him. it would probably turn off a lot of people but if he is there at 38 I don’t think I’d have a problem taking him. Likely means the Jets don’t hit either a linebacker or safety in the 2nd though.

[section314]

Sarge...one interesting guy to watch is Grant Hermanns, OT. Seem to remember that they really like him and was one of the first FA's they signed last draft. 

[Warfish]

1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said:

PRE-DRAFT ROSTER UPDATE AND ANALYSIS

JETS 6 MOST URGENT NEEDS IN THE 2022 DRAFT

1. Wide Receiver
2. Linebacker
3. Edge Rusher
4. Cornerback
5. Back Up Offensive Line
6. Back Up Running Back

Great effort as always Sarge, appreciated. o7

I would disagree with you only slightly, my own view is:

1. Pass Rush (likely from an Edge)

2. Offensive Weapon (likely in the form of a potential #1 WR)

3. Linebacker

4. Cornerback

5. #2 RB to Pair with Carter in a 2-Back Split-Carries Backfield

6. Offensive Line Depth (this is key on Becton, how JD prioritizes this will, IMO, say alot about his view on Becton).

7. Defensive Line

[peekskill68]

6 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Yes, that’s him. it would probably turn off a lot of people but if he is there at 38 I don’t think I’d have a problem taking him. Likely means the Jets don’t hit either a linebacker or safety in the 2nd though.

The whole S/LB approach is weird to me.  I don't like these hybrid guys weighing 215 lbs matching up with guys like Kelce, Gronkowski, Andrews, etc.  

[slats]

1 hour ago, freestater said:

It depresses me that as of now, when Becton goes down, we have Edoga and McDermott poised to be in the lineup. 

Lots of decent OL still available in free agency. 

[Jets Things]

1 hour ago, freestater said:

Have you seen the glasses for colorblindness?

 

Oh yes, done all the research. The glasses don't really show the color contrast for the type and severity of color blindness I have. Deuteranopia, red-green, is the most common type. It just happens that I have it really frickin badly. 

[Waka Flocka Flacco]

5 hours ago, peekskill68 said:

JFM playing more on the inside

It's the same position. 5-tech end on base downs, interior rusher in wide sub fronts. Last year he stayed at edge in nickel because they were depleted there and had the room to carry a second backup 3-tech to platoon with Fatukasi. This year the rotation is likely to be JFM plus 4 ends and 3 tackles instead of 3 ends and 4 tackles. One of Rankins and Shepherd is redundant and will be cut depending on how much money they need. Either way the nose tackle snaps still need to be replaced unless anybody actually believes that changing a player's nominal position from DE to DT magically bestows the ability to play over center on first down.

[jetstream23]

7 hours ago, peekskill68 said:

The whole S/LB approach is weird to me.  I don't like these hybrid guys weighing 215 lbs matching up with guys like Kelce, Gronkowski, Andrews, etc.  

The Jets can find a true LB in this Draft in Round 2.  Not a project, not a converted Safety, etc.  And, I actually think it's a priority that would let them move off CJ Mosely in 2023 if they find the heir apparent in this Draft.  Lots of inside and outside guys, good athletes, great experience, solid tacklers with some leadership qualities.  Just a very good list of options from the 30's through about 70 in this Draft.

And/or they could nail a true Safety like Cine or a Pitre.  Early Round 2 is the sweet spot for adding defenders, maybe even at both spots 35 and 38.

[peekskill68]

7 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

The Jets can find a true LB in this Draft in Round 2.  Not a project, not a converted Safety, etc.  And, I actually think it's a priority that would let them move off CJ Mosely in 2023 if they find the heir apparent in this Draft.  Lots inside and outside guys, good athletes, great experience, solid tacklers with some leadership qualities.  Just a very good list of options from the 30's through about 70 in this Draft.

And/or they could nail a true Safety like Cine or a Pitre.  Early Round 2 is the sweet spot for adding defenders, maybe even a both spots 35 and 38.

People's heads would explode if 3 of JD's first 4 picks are on defense.   But I can see it happening...

[freestater]

6 hours ago, Jets Things said:

Oh yes, done all the research. The glasses don't really show the color contrast for the type and severity of color blindness I have. Deuteranopia, red-green, is the most common type. It just happens that I have it really frickin badly. 

Sorry to hear man. Kinda makes me blue. Oops. Sorry again.