2022 NFL Draft: Rumors & Discussion

[football guy]

2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

So if the draft goes walker/hutch/ekwonu, the jets are then taking gardener, and then either london or wilson?  No lines addressed in round 1?

I trust that it would be Gardner at 4 yes. 

At 10 it would depend who is there. If Jermaine Johnson is I would say they would probably lean into that. If he’s gone, then I think it would be one of those receivers or Thibodeaux. I think Thibodeaux won’t go #4 no matter what but I wouldn’t rule him out at #10. 

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, football guy said:

I trust that it would be Gardner at 4 yes. 

At 10 it would depend who is there. If Jermaine Johnson is I would say they would probably lean into that. If he’s gone, then I think it would be one of those receivers or Thibodeaux. I think Thibodeaux won’t go #4 no matter what but I wouldn’t rule him out at #10. 

So the jets could wind up with gardener and JJ, that would really be a disappointment.  

[prime21]

7 minutes ago, Jet Life said:

Looking like 1. Walker 2. Hutch 3. Stingley 4. Ickey. The drama of where Becton ends up and the Deebo situation at pick 10 will lead for a crazy night and weekend 

Ugh....

DE/CB/WR needs and we go with an O-lineman is just heartbreaking.  Let Becton play it out this season.  We have enough picks to address the line later or next year.   And if we don't give Deebo 700 million dollars we will have cap room for a FA or trade scenario.

[Irish Jet]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/draft2022/insider/story/_/id/33816306/nfl-mock-draft-2022-mel-kiper-final-predictions-first-32-picks-including-quarterback-surprise-top-10-shuffle

Kiper has us taking Sauce and London. Yay team

Has Thibodeaux falling to 12 and us passing on him twice which would be hilarious. He's clearly buying into the idea that there's issues there.

 

[Flightattendant]

35 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

 

Don't hate on us because we're literate. The rest of you are uncultured swine lol.

[section314]

Heard it here first. The pick at #4 will be Charles Cross.

[Tranquilo]

1 minute ago, section314 said:

Heard it here first. The pick at #4 will be Charles Cross.

Bookmarked 

[TuscanyTile2]

3 minutes ago, section314 said:

Heard it here first. The pick at #4 will be Charles Cross.

 

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/19/albert-breer-makes-2022-nfl-draft-predictions-new-york-giants/

[Augustiniak]

3 minutes ago, section314 said:

Heard it here first. The pick at #4 will be Charles Cross.

If that’s who the jets have been targeting all along, then kudos for never leaking that.

[section314]

1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Albert Breer said he's heard from some scouts that Cross is the top OL in the draft.

Breer heard it from me.😁  

[RedBeardedSavage]

23 minutes ago, football guy said:

I haven’t heard a thing on him either. I’ve heard about London and Watson directly from a Jets source. I’ve heard about Burks in round 2 from an agent source. I personally have a hard time believing their not high on Garrett Wilson (though not sourced). I would think Jameson Williams is more likely a trade-up scenario (also not sourced) 

Thanks, dude. Appreciate the insight as always.

[T0mShane]

16 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/draft2022/insider/story/_/id/33816306/nfl-mock-draft-2022-mel-kiper-final-predictions-first-32-picks-including-quarterback-surprise-top-10-shuffle

Kiper has us taking Sauce and London. Yay team

Has Thibodeaux falling to 12 and us passing on him twice which would be hilarious. He's clearly buying into the idea that there's issues there.

 

Kiper, Jeremiah, and Dane Brugler all have Thibodeaux going 9 or later. 

[slimjasi]

29 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

All signs seems to indicate he's our top receiver. That's worrying because he's literally the exact opposite profile of the #1 guys we were sniffing around. 

London is such an interesting case. On one hand, he doesn't seem to be the greatest scheme fit to me and I have concerns over his speed. 

On the other hand, he's exactly the type of WR the Jets don't have 

[Augustiniak]

Just now, slimjasi said:

London is such an interesting case. On one hand, he doesn't seem to be the greatest scheme fit to me and I have concerns over his speed. 

On the other hand, he's exactly the type of WR the Jets don't have 

If london ran a 4.65 or better he would be consistently mocked in the top 8.  Not running may ultaimtely help the jets if they want him at 10.  

[CTJetsFan]

9 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

If london ran a 4.65 or better he would be consistently mocked in the top 8.  Not running may ultaimtely help the jets if they want him at 10.  

There are other ways they can figure out what his speed is. They can look at game tape and check some of his runs (patterns or after catches) or even look at his workout (running and catching) to see how fast he covered ground to determine his "game speed".

Of course, the game tape would be pre-surgery and workout runs post-surgery.

[slimjasi]

6 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

If london ran a 4.65 or better he would be consistently mocked in the top 8.  Not running may ultaimtely help the jets if they want him at 10.  

Agreed. 

I wish he ran. 

The other thing I like about London is everyone says he interviews well and is a good kid. Haven't heard any rumblings of him being a typical crazy WR. 

[Zachtomims47]

14 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

London is such an interesting case. On one hand, he doesn't seem to be the greatest scheme fit to me and I have concerns over his speed. 

On the other hand, he's exactly the type of WR the Jets don't have 

They don't always. have to be super fast to be a good WR. Just catch the ball and score TDs. Easy. 

[Tranquilo]

44 minutes ago, football guy said:

I trust that it would be Gardner at 4 yes. 

At 10 it would depend who is there. If Jermaine Johnson is I would say they would probably lean into that. If he’s gone, then I think it would be one of those receivers or Thibodeaux. I think Thibodeaux won’t go #4 no matter what but I wouldn’t rule him out at #10. 

Is it Gardner or Ickey if neither are in the top 3?

[slimjasi]

16 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Kiper, Jeremiah, and Dane Brugler all have Thibodeaux going 9 or later. 

Lions taking him #2 overall dog

[Paradis]

1 hour ago, Chrebetfan80 said:

stop stealing my material lol 😜

lol i knew you'd say that! ...Someone else said in a convo i had with them on twitter a couple weeks ago... it stuck. Eitherway its low stress high floor pick that we could use @Shockwave and @Irish Jet others are bigger buyers of his ceiling than me (think he's a career overachiever) but I prefer Hutch at #4 over any other name that isn't Gardner

[nycdan]

1 hour ago, peekskill68 said:

Roger Vick and Matt Snell both FB, both 1st rounders...

sar·casm

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noun

the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

"his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment"

[T0mShane]

7 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Lions taking him #2 overall dog

I’ll eat my hat.

[Titan24]

Is there a chance this deebo trade is done but the NFL wants to announce during draft make a spectacle of it?

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

I’ll eat my hat.

Same.

But let me dream. I'm trying to wish Hutchinson to the Jets into existence. 

[Paradis]

1 hour ago, football guy said:

Rich Cimini posted what he thinks the Jets top 10 draft board looks like. I agree with some of it. My breadcrumb reading… 

• DE Aidan Hutchinson is the top player on their final draft board 
• OT Ickey Ekwonu, CB Sauce Gardner, and DE Travon Walker make up 2-3-4 (not sure of the order)
• DE Jermaine Johnson is likely 5th on their board. 
• WR Drake London, one of WR Garrett Wilson/Jameson Williams, CB Derek Stingley, DE Kayvon Thibodeaux, and OT Evan Neal likely round out 6 through 10 (not sure of order)

I will die on the hill that this doesn't exist... Not saying you didn't hear it -- but actions speak louder than words.

The jets have done everything they can to secure a top WR this offseason (and failed thus far)... that's not something a team does if their board looks like that. It just isn't. There's a genuine gap in draft-grade and the Jets will not select a WR at #10... they brought in 5 guys for visits.. they did this to gauge options in a trade back, or trade up or simply whomever slides to them at #35

None of these WRs *ought to* yield a top 10 grade. 

[Dcat]

55 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

So the jets could wind up with gardener and JJ, that would really be a disappointment.  

not for me

[Dcat]

2 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

 

If we go edge then WR, the way we order the CBs is pretty irrelevant. Regardless, there is nothing more meaningless than a report about "many inside the building." All that matters is the 1 in the building making the decision. You will routinely have "many" scouts liking a player that the GM doesn't want. 

many = the person who made the tweet plus  his best friend who is a dishwasher in thee Jets cafeteria. Which friend, btw, is why he considers himself an insider.

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, Paradis said:

I will die on the hill that this doesn't exist... Not saying you didn't hear it -- but actions speak louder than words.

The jets have done everything they can to secure a top WR this offseason (and failed thus far)... that's not something a team does if they board looks like that. It just isn't. There's a genuine gap in draft-grade and the Jets will not select a WR at #10... they brought in 5 guys for visits.. they did this to gauge options in a trade back, or trade up or simply whomever slides to them at #35

None of these WRs *ought to* yield a top 10 grade. 

Agreed. I think he has to close the deal for Deebo or, failing that, has to have a plan b in place for a veteran, even in the tier below Deebo and Hill. Robby Anderson or some such.

[slimjasi]

5 minutes ago, Paradis said:

I will die on the hill that this doesn't exist... Not saying you didn't hear it -- but actions speak louder than words.

The jets have done everything they can to secure a top WR this offseason (and failed thus far)... that's not something a team does if they board looks like that. It just isn't. There's a genuine gap in draft-grade and the Jets will not select a WR at #10... they brought in 5 guys for visits.. they did this to gauge options in a trade back, or trade up or simply whomever slides to them at #35

None of these WRs *ought to* yield a top 10 grade. 

This is a fair argument. 

The only thing I would say is that a veteran WR for Douglas still makes more sense than a rookie, even if he really likes a guy in this class, mainly because he's under the gun to win games this year with an improved Wilson. So the Jets are looking to hit the ground running. Get Wilson someone who you can plug in right away and is elite. 

It seems to me like Douglas is feeling the heat. If he doesn't win north of 7 games next year, I personally think he's in trouble. 

[Paradis]

4 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

This is a fair argument. 

The only thing I would say is that a veteran WR for Douglas still makes more sense than a rookie, even if he really likes a guy in this class, mainly because he's under the gun to win games this year with an improved Wilson. So the Jets are looking to hit the ground running. Get Wilson someone who you can plug in right away and is elite. 

It seems to me like Douglas is feeling the heat. If he doesn't win north of 7 games next year, I personally think he's in trouble. 

It's painfully clear Joe agrees -- we need to give Wilson more to work with than just Elijah and whimsical Corey Davis... Mike Williams, Calvin Ridley, Amari Cooper, Tyreek Hill, Deebo Samuel... Garrett Wilson and his 180lb frame is not plan B. 

The Jets will certainly select a WR early, but I don't see it happening at #10

[slimjasi]

Just now, Paradis said:

It's painfully clear Joe agrees -- we need to give Wilson more to work with than just Elijah and whimsical Corey Davis... Mike Williams, Calvin Ridley, Amari Cooper, Tyreek Hill, Deebo Samuel... Garrett Wilson and his 180lb frame is not plan B. 

The Jets will certainly select a WR early, but I don't see it happening at #10

Agreed. It sounds like WR in round 2 from what all you sourced guys are saying. 

I'm fine with that because there will be good value at that position in round 2 and we finally picked a good 2nd round WR last year, so maybe our 2nd round pick curse is over. 

[Paradis]

Just now, slimjasi said:

Agreed. It sounds like WR in round 2 from what all you sourced guys are saying. 

I'm fine with that because there will be good value at that position in round 2 and we finally picked a good 2nd round WR last year, so maybe our 2nd round pick curse is over. 

honestly i think they trade out of 10, barring some surprise QB picks and such that would push talent to them at #10... Just my "reading the tea leaves" but the two likeliest scenarios for a WR would be a trade back in the first or a trade up from #35.. 

[Chrebetfan80]

18 minutes ago, Paradis said:

lol i knew you'd say that! ...Someone else said in a convo i had with them on twitter a couples ago... it stuck. Eitherway its low stress high floor pick that we could use @Shockwave and @Irish Jet others are bigger buyers of his ceiling than me (think he's a career overachiever) but I prefer Hutch at #4 over any other name that isn't Gardner

hahah naa its all good, i think its a fair comparison though. I think thats why he's the safest pick in the draft right now.  I think at worst he ends up similar to Kerrigan.. Guys 10+ years in the league, 4 time probowler, 4 double digit sack seasons, youd take that easily. High end you hear people say jared allen, so if thats the ceiling and kerrigan is the floor, thats a damn good player. 

 

[derp]

1 minute ago, Paradis said:

honestly i think they trade out of 10, barring some surprise QB picks and such that would push talent to them at #10... Just my "reading the tea leaves" but the two likeliest scenarios for a WR would be a trade back in the first or a trade up from #35.. 

What are your thoughts on the possibility of Jordan Davis at 10?

I think the general assumption has been JFM->DT and a drafted edge replaces him, I suppose Rankins starting is possible, but they haven't really replaced Fatukasi, the places Douglas spent time (BAL, PHI) valued iDL play/athleticism and he clearly likes the big freaks (Becton) and SF hit iDL repeatedly as well (Kinlaw, Buckner, Armstead as an inside out guy).

[derp]

1 minute ago, Chrebetfan80 said:

hahah naa its all good, i think its a fair comparison though. I think thats why he's the safest pick in the draft right now.  I think at worst he ends up similar to Kerrigan.. Guys 10+ years in the league, 4 time probowler, 4 double digit sack seasons, youd take that easily. High end you hear people say jared allen, so if thats the ceiling and kerrigan is the floor, thats a damn good player. 

 

Easily best case at 4. Opens up the rest of the draft.