My Top DE-Edge Rushers

[Tony The Wiz]

1. AIDAN HUTCHINSON - MICHIGAN           TOP 3 PLAYER

2. KAYON THIBODEAUX - OREGON             TOP 3 PLAYER

3. GEORGE KARLAFTIS - PERDUE                TOP 5 PLAYER

4, DAVID OJABO - MICHIGAN                     TOP 10 PLAYER

5. JERMAINE JOHNSON - FLORIDA ST.       TOP 10 PLAYER 

6. TRAVON WALKER - GEORGIA                 TOP 15 PLAYER

7.  SAM WILLIAMS - OLE MISS              LATE  1ST ROUND                

8. ARNOLD EBIKETIE - PENN ST.            LATE  1ST ROUND - EARLY 2ND ROUND

9. JOSH PASCHAL - KENTUCKY                   2ND ROUND WORTH

10. CAMERON THOMAS - SAN DIEGO ST.       2ND ROUND WORD

11. MICHAEL CLEMONS - TEXAS A&M      LATE 2ND ROUND - EARLY 3RD

12. AMARE BARNO - VIRGINIA TECH       LATE 2ND ROUND - EARLY 3RD

13 . DRAKE JACKSON -  USC                        LATE 2ND ROUND - EARLY 3RD

14. KINGSLEY ENAGBERE - SOUTH CAROLINA         3RD ROUND

15. BOYE MAFE - MINNESOTA                               MID 3RD ROUND

16. ISAIAH THOMAS -  OKLAHOMA                      LATE 3RD - EARLY 4TH ROUND

17. LOGAN HALL - HOUSTON                           LATE 3RD - EARLY 4TH                     

18. MYJAI SANDERS - CINCINNATI                  EARLY  4TH ROUND TO MID 

19. ZACHARY CARTER - FLORIDA                      LATE 4TH ROUND

20. ALEX WRIGHT - UAB                                   LATE 4TH ROUND

21. DOMINIQUE ROBINSON - MIAMI,OHIO     LATE 4TH ROUND 

22. CURTIS BROOKS - CINCINNATI                    LATE 4TH ROUND - EARLY 5TH 

23. SCOTT PATCHAN - COLORADO ST.              LATE 4TH ROUND - EARLY 5TH

24.  TYLER JOHNSON - ARIZONA ST.                       MID 5TH

25. JEFFREY GUNTER - COASTAL CAROLINA            MID 5TH

26. BIG KAT BRYANT - UCF                                   6TH ROUND

27. ZACH VAN VALKENBURG - IOWA -                6TH ROUND 

28. TYREKE SMITH - OHIO ST.                              7TH ROUND

AND TWO SLEEPER IN FCS CONFERENCES 

 1.  ISIAHA CHAMBERS - MCNEESE - 6'5 255lbs  best edge FCS 

2.  DJ COLEMAN - JACKSONVILLE ST. - 6'5 1/2 260lbs 

 

   TOP 3/4 LINEBACKER  IN 3/4 DEFENSE

1. NICK BONITO - OKLAHOMA           LATE 1ST ROUND 

2.  DAMONE CLARK - LSU     INJURED     LATE 1ST ROUND

3.  DARIEN BEAVERS - CINCINNATI          LATE 2ND ROUND 

4. DEANGELO MALONE - WESTERN KENTUCKY      EARLY 3RD ROUND

5. JESSE LUKETA - PENN ST.                   4TH ROUND

6. DAVID ANENIH - HOUSTON              4TH ROUND TO 5TH ROUND

7.  MIKA TAFUA - UTAH                              5TH ROUND

8. JEREMIAH MOON - FLORIDA                5TH ROUND

9. ALI FAYAD - WESTERN MICHIGAN       LATE 5TH ROUND TO EARLY 6TH ROUND

10. JOEL DUBLANCO - CINCINNATI               6TH ROUND 

11. JAMAL HINES - TOLEDO                                 7TH ROUND 

12. TROY HAIRSTON - CENTRAL MICHIGAN       7TH ROUND

 

THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE EDGE RUSHERS DRAFT. 

 

[LSJF]

BIG KAT BRYANT - UCF                         

6TH ROUND…. This guy has immeasurable talent, has tremendous wingspan, plays with his hand in the dirt… has a tremendous bend… has a very high ceiling, and the very low floor… his motor is nonstop… His pappy Played in Michigan for Bo Schembechler… 

Do I sound like a scout? Because I totally made that up… ?? Please let’s get to the draft already…

 

[RedBeardedSavage]

MY RANKINGS WITH NO EXPLANATIONS 

CONSUME, PEASANTS

[Tony The Wiz]

31 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

MY RANKINGS WITH NO EXPLANATIONS 

CONSUME, PEASANTS

What do you want to know. I will explain why. 

[BroadwayRay]

3 minutes ago, Tony The Wiz said:

What do you want to know. I will explain why. 

Ok, question 1: why are professional evaluators like yourself so divided on Thibodeux? And I don’t mean the so-called selfish attitude. I’m seeing deep divisions just based on his tapes. 

[Embrace the Suck]

59 minutes ago, Tony The Wiz said:

   TOP 3/4 LINEBACKER  IN 3/4 DEFENSE

The Jets don't run a 3/4 anymore.

[Tony The Wiz]

I liked Thibodeux, I watched a lot of his games. And you know some evaluators said he took off some plays. Do you know I watched  Jordan Davis took off some plays. He even did this in the SEC Championship game. And look around him who he had to play with. Thibodeux did not have that luxury. In a few games I watched it looked like he was the only one on that defensive line doing his job and others. 

[Tony The Wiz]

14 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said:

Ok, question 1: why are professional evaluators like yourself so divided on Thibodeux? And I don’t mean the so-called selfish attitude. I’m seeing deep divisions just based on his tapes. 

I liked Thibodeux, I watched a lot of his games. And you know some evaluators said he took off some plays. Do you know I watched  Jordan Davis took off some plays. He even did this in the SEC Championship game. And look around him who he had to play with. Thibodeux did not have that luxury. In a few games I watched it looked like he was the only one on that defensive line doing his job and others. 

[Tony The Wiz]

4 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said:

The Jets don't run a 3/4 anymore.

So what does that mean? i am giving you the best edge rushers in the draft, I mentioned the 3/4 guys like Bonito. separate.

[Phillyjet]

26 minutes ago, Tony The Wiz said:

What do you want to know. I will explain why. 

Christopher Allen, Alabama, coming off of injury.  Discuss

[Tony The Wiz]

4 minutes ago, Phillyjet said:

Christopher Allen, Alabama, coming off of injury.  Discuss

Somebody is going to go in on him. The question is when. He only had 3 tackles this year before he got injured. This is for the teams doctors to decide, 

[jetstream23]

1 hour ago, Tony The Wiz said:

1. AIDAN HUTCHINSON - MICHIGAN           TOP 3 PLAYER

2. KAYON THIBODEAUX - OREGON             TOP 3 PLAYER

3. GEORGE KARLAFTIS - PERDUE                TOP 5 PLAYER

4, DAVID OJABO - MICHIGAN                     TOP 10 PLAYER

5. JERMAINE JOHNSON - FLORIDA ST.       TOP 10 PLAYER 

6. TRAVON WALKER - GEORGIA                 TOP 15 PLAYER

7.  SAM WILLIAMS - OLE MISS              LATE  1ST ROUND                

8. ARNOLD EBIKETIE - PENN ST.            LATE  1ST ROUND - EARLY 2ND ROUND

9. JOSH PASCHAL - KENTUCKY                   2ND ROUND WORTH

10. CAMERON THOMAS - SAN DIEGO ST.       2ND ROUND WORD

11. MICHAEL CLEMONS - TEXAS A&M      LATE 2ND ROUND - EARLY 3RD

12. AMARE BARNO - VIRGINIA TECH       LATE 2ND ROUND - EARLY 3RD

13 . DRAKE JACKSON -  USC                        LATE 2ND ROUND - EARLY 3RD

14. KINGSLEY ENAGBERE - SOUTH CAROLINA         3RD ROUND

15. BOYE MAFE - MINNESOTA                               MID 3RD ROUND

16. ISAIAH THOMAS -  OKLAHOMA                      LATE 3RD - EARLY 4TH ROUND

17. LOGAN HALL - HOUSTON                           LATE 3RD - EARLY 4TH                     

18. MYJAI SANDERS - CINCINNATI                  EARLY  4TH ROUND TO MID 

19. ZACHARY CARTER - FLORIDA                      LATE 4TH ROUND

 

 

I bolded the guys I like most.  Surprised you have Mafe so low.

IF the Jets don't hit Edge at 4 or 10, then I want them to seriously consider trading up from 35 to get Ebiketie.  I think there's a better than 50/50 chance that 3 years from now Ebiketie turns out to be one of the Top 5 Edge guys from this class.

[Tony The Wiz]

1 minute ago, jetstream23 said:

I bolded the guys I like most.  Surprised you have Mafe so low.

IF the Jets don't hit Edge at 4 or 10, then I want them to seriously consider trading up from 35 to get Ebiketie.  I think there's a better than 50/50 chance that 3 years from now Ebiketie turns out to be one of the Top 5 Edge guys from this class.

Like I stated these top edge rushers all have that speed and power. I watched Ebiketie and he is not far from the top 6. Ojobo has the most upside. Imagine he just picked up the game of football a few years ago. It was unfortunate he got injured.  I watched Walkers tape so much and remember he is playing with other fabulous defensive players. He is about all brute strength and a burst of quickness. But I don't seeing him going around the edge like these others. He doesn't give you the swim move or bends low to avoid that tackle.  Others have him going 1st because of the combine.  

[jetstream23]

4 minutes ago, Tony The Wiz said:

Like I stated these top edge rushers all have that speed and power. I watched Ebiketie and he is not far from the top 6. Ojobo has the most upside. Imagine he just picked up the game of football a few years ago. It was unfortunate he got injured.  I watched Walkers tape so much and remember he is playing with other fabulous defensive players. He is about all brute strength and a burst of quickness. But I don't seeing him going around the edge like these others. He doesn't give you the swim move or bends low to avoid that tackle.  Others have him going 1st because of the combine.  

Walker is hard to figure out.  He's already very good but the thing that would push him into the Top 3 is projecting what he can become, not what he already is.  IMO, he feels like a better, more athletic version of JFM.  Just a bump better across the board in most areas than what JFM already gives the Jets, and they can both play a bit inside and outside.  To me, Walker seems like an ideal 3-4 DE.  He has that in-between size where he's a bit small for DT and bit big for that 4-3 down DE at 6'5", 272 lbs.

[Tony The Wiz]

6 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Walker is hard to figure out.  He's already very good but the thing that would push him into the Top 3 is projecting what he can become, not what he already is.  IMO, he feels like a better, more athletic version of JFM.  Just a bump better across the board in most areas than what JFM already gives the Jets, and they can both play a bit inside and outside.  To me, Walker seems like an ideal 3-4 DE.  He has that in-between size where he's a bit small for DT and bit big for that 4-3 down DE at 6'5", 272 lbs.

I agree. Can he bend to get around the tackle like Dwight Freeney. I don't see that now. I see it with Ojabo. 

[Embrace the Suck]

20 hours ago, Tony The Wiz said:

So what does that mean? i am giving you the best edge rushers in the draft, I mentioned the 3/4 guys like Bonito. separate.

Yeah, that's my bad. I wasn't thinking that a 3-4 rush LB would potentially translate to a 4-3 DE. I was thinking about a lumbering 3-4 LB out in coverage.

[Tony The Wiz]

39 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said:

Yeah, that's my bad. I wasn't thinking that a 3-4 rush LB would potentially translate to a 4-3 DE. I was thinking about a lumbering 3-4 LB out in coverage.

No problem. Enjoy the draft. In am watching the NFL network and it feels like the Emmy Awards. Talking about how they dressing. 

[Embrace the Suck]

19 minutes ago, Tony The Wiz said:

No problem. Enjoy the draft. In am watching the NFL network and it feels like the Emmy Awards. Talking about how they dressing. 

You too. I'm staying away from the draft until the payoff moment.

[HighPitch]

I love the wiz

tell me tony is it better/safer to go with one 1st round edge or picking up a pair like arnold/ kingsley/mafe in rounds 2/3.

i dont think these top guys are slam dunks. Id rather hedge my bets and since we have the picks why not. Plus, u can rotate them and keep em fresh.

am i stupid?

[Big Snell]

Would love to see them get one of the top 3 and then double dip with Boye Mafe later in the draft.

[Tony The Wiz]

28 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

I love the wiz

tell me tony is it better/safer to go with one 1st round edge or picking up a pair like arnold/ kingsley/mafe in rounds 2/3.

i dont think these top guys are slam dunks. Id rather hedge my bets and since we have the picks why not. Plus, u can rotate them and keep em fresh.

am i stupid?

In the NFL today, you need a top Edge rusher and a Cornerback. So those positions I would take with my 4th pick. But you need that CB first since there are two really good stop corners. So hopefully we get Sauce or I would pull the trigger on Stingley at 10.