PS17 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bronx said: That is a 'I am going to sh*t on my pants' grin. Think it’s more of a “let me show off my $75,000 teeth” grin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: OK, seriously, are the rest of his picks good. The only one that looks solid to me is AVT. And seriously you’re joking. I hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: You see, this is what is wrong with this fan base. Losing is acceptable if we look good losing. To me it just means we went from being a dumpster fire to a bad team. The team has to improve, but you have to be realistic as well. There was hardly any NFL talent on the roster after Mac, but there were a ton of bad contracts. The bad money is off the books, the talent level is improving. This year, there will be a LOT of 1st and 2nd year players starting. I am hoping in their division they can go 2-4, they are not beating the Bills, hope to split with Miami and the Pats. If the team goes from 4-13 to a 7-8 win team, the offense and defense improve, then that is a quality year. If you thought ANY GM in the history of the NFL could have taken over that mess and made a playoff team in 2 years, that's fantasy land. My biggest complaint with JD was and is Becton over Wirfs. I didn't like it then, I still don't, but I hope it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 35 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And seriously you’re joking. I hope I just have a higher bar for being a good player than you. You actually thought there was nothing to wrry about when Zach was throwing 5 yard passes in the dirt last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted May 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2022 The revisionist history here always makes me shake my head. Fact: Becton had a good rookie season and showed a lot of promise. Wirfs was even better, but nobody was lamenting the Becton pick. And he was clearly better than Thomas and mostly considered better than Wills, who were the other true LTs drafted. One example: https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-rookie-rankings-justin-herbert-justin-jefferson-and-chase-young-headline-top Another: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-25-rookies-2020-nfl-season 18. T MEKHI BECTON, NEW YORK JETS Becton was one of a handful of surprises on this list. Yes, he was the 11th overall pick, but the fact that he was rarely tasked with true pass sets in a play-action and screen-heavy offense at Louisville was a big concern. Needless to say, it was a shock to see the 6-foot-7, 369-pound tackle outperform in pass protection as much as he did. Becton’s true pass set grade was the 13th-best among all left tackles this season. Okay, so with that out of the way, let's continue to pretend that an injury that sidelined him in year 2 is reason to jettison him for a low pick. Because that makes perfect sense if jamming your negative narrative down everyone's throats is your primary objective. I know a few of you are still sore that Joe Douglas blew up your last diatribe. Becton is not going to be traded. He may move to RT. He may yet be injured again this season. He may even be fat and not play as well as we hope. Nobody knows for certain. But if he's healthy, he's starting. And if he's in shape, he's probably playing well. And since we don't yet know anything about what shape he's in, all the fake certainty over what's going to happen is silly. I'm sorry if Becton eventually showing up and playing disturbs the joy some of you feel in bashing players but no worries, you can always pivot to whoever is not playing well that week. It's always so much fun for the rest of us. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 @Jet Nut if you want to debate, i am happy to do so but if your answers are lol emojis, we have nothing to talk about. I rate that kind of response the same as the guy that yells Eff You from his car and drives away. You want to be that guy, fine but I don't have to be the other one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 13 hours ago, FootballLove said: I always feel bad for these kids coming out of college and starting their professional careers. They've been interviewed by half the league. They've spent time with the coaching staff, the GM, maybe the Owner. They've walked through the sparkling new buildings....weight rooms, study rooms, recovery rooms with massage tables, the cafeteria. They HAVE to have landed an absolute favorite they HOPE HOPE HOPE drafts them. And at the same time, they've decided to PRAY PRAY PRAY certain teams DON'T draft them. The thought of spending the next 4 or 5 years in some absolute sh*thole is soul crushing. Then the draft starts....the team they want doesn't pick them...the team they HATE calls their name. And they have to act super excited to be going there. Uggg. I couldn't do it. Hats off to these kids that pull it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: His smile is weird. And possibly stinky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: Dbl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: Triple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Dcat said: Excellent analogy. But those paychecks must help ease the pain. i'm sure they do. there are decent places in michigan just not in downtown detroit. the lions do have a pretty nice facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, PS17 said: Think it’s more of a “let me show off my $75,000 teeth” grin Oh, I couldn't see he was wearing those until the picture was blown up. Makes sense now. I thought he just smiled like a freak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Bronx said: That is a 'I am going to sh*t on my pants' grin. I can’t tell if he had a grill in, but if he does it would explain the interesting facial expression. He’s just showing it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I think he thought he was going to the Jets. Yeah, he didn't seem to happy to be drafted by the Lions. Having said that, while I get it, it's hard to feel for a guy who just became a millionaire for playing a childs game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 He ain't that sad.....Sent from the NY Jets /Zack Wilson Suicide Watch desk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: I just have a higher bar for being a good player than you. You actually thought there was nothing to wrry about when Zach was throwing 5 yard passes in the dirt last season. No, you have no clue how to judge a player and better yet, who to blame. Because there has to be someone at fault. If AVT gets his knee rolled up on and misses the year, you'll blame JD. JDs to blame for Moore getting injured too. Because why, he doesnt have a history that you can blame him for ignoring. How many passes did all of you count that he threw into the dirt and what exactly does it mean? Especially since he wasnt doing it late. Did it bother you when Mahomes was doing it in the playoffs, like you know, every QB in he NFL does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Dcat said: I do not agree with the contention that JD's tenure with the Jets relies solely on Zach Wilson. In fact, everything about Woody and his history in dealing with GMs and coaches indicates the contrary. 1st, there is zero support or any other evidentiary reason to think that his job with the Jets is based entirely on the success or lack thereof of Zach Wilson. Where in the world did that come from anyway other than some anxiety riddled fans' personal opinions? 2nd, Woody and the Jets simply have never fired a GM or coach on the basis of a single failure, be it 1st round QB, 2d round Qb or any other individual player drafted. In fact, the opposite has been true ever since Woody acquired ownership. Woody and the Jets have been abundantly patient with bad GMs and bad HCs. There is absolutely nothing out there to indicate any change at all. Just because one wants that to be true, doesn't make it true. Hypothetical: If Wilson poops the bed in 2022, and the Jets finish 3-14, is it your opinion that JD remains secure, with no hot seat, and is simply free to draft another QB in the 2023 Draft? At that point his career record (excluding the year everyone seems to want to exclude for him) would be 9-41. Are the Johnsons just going to keep on believ'in with a 9-41 record over three seasons? Now, to be clear, I don't think this (3-14) will happen. But if it does, do you truly think there is no ramifications, and we just roll on into 2023 with a new JD QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Hypothetical: If Wilson poops the bed in 2022, and the Jets finish 3-14, is it your opinion that JD remains secure, with no hot seat, and is simply free to draft another QB in the 2023 Draft? At that point his career record (excluding the year everyone seems to want to exclude for him) would be 9-41. Are the Johnsons just going to keep on believ'in with a 9-41 record over three seasons? Now, to be clear, I don't think this (3-14) will happen. But if it does, do you truly think there is no ramifications, and we just roll on into 2023 with a new JD QB? What other worst case scenarios can you come up with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: Hypothetical: If Wilson poops the bed in 2022, and the Jets finish 3-14, is it your opinion that JD remains secure, with no hot seat, and is simply free to draft another QB in the 2023 Draft? At that point his career record (excluding the year everyone seems to want to exclude for him) would be 9-41. Are the Johnsons just going to keep on believ'in with a 9-41 record over three seasons? Now, to be clear, I don't think this (3-14) will happen. But if it does, do you truly think there is no ramifications, and we just roll on into 2023 with a new JD QB? yep. A vet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: @Jet Nut if you want to debate, i am happy to do so but if your answers are lol emojis, we have nothing to talk about. I rate that kind of response the same as the guy that yells Eff You from his car and drives away. You want to be that guy, fine but I don't have to be the other one. You see an overall abundance of emojis? Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Dcat said: I do not agree with the contention that JD's tenure with the Jets relies solely on Zach Wilson. In fact, everything about Woody and his history in dealing with GMs and coaches indicates the contrary. 1st, there is zero support or any other evidentiary reason to think that his job with the Jets is based entirely on the success or lack thereof of Zach Wilson. Where in the world did that come from anyway other than some anxiety riddled fans' personal opinions? 2nd, Woody and the Jets simply have never fired a GM or coach on the basis of a single failure, be it 1st round QB, 2d round Qb or any other individual player drafted. In fact, the opposite has been true ever since Woody acquired ownership. Woody and the Jets have been abundantly patient with bad GMs and bad HCs. There is absolutely nothing out there to indicate any change at all. Just because one wants that to be true, doesn't make it true. He has 2 drafts where he stockpiles talent and then firing him because a FQB doesnt work out might be the dumbest thing this team could do. Resetting everything because ZW doesnt develop is laughable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: yep. A vet I can't imagine our Owner considering three full seasons (and a half) as a Mulligan with no ramifications, but ok. That would be a massive amount of faith the Johnsons would have in JD to ignore the W/L record completely in such a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: You see an overall abundance of emojis? Interesting Ok, we are done. I don't have patience for this kind of debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Ok, we are done. I don't have patience for this kind of debate. Well, do you or dont you? I'm trying to figure it out and whats so troublesome with asking a question that doesnt get you angry for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: No, you have no clue how to judge a player and better yet, who to blame. Because there has to be someone at fault. If AVT gets his knee rolled up on and misses the year, you'll blame JD. JDs to blame for Moore getting injured too. Because why, he doesnt have a history that you can blame him for ignoring. How many passes did all of you count that he threw into the dirt and what exactly does it mean? Especially since he wasnt doing it late. Did it bother you when Mahomes was doing it in the playoffs, like you know, every QB in he NFL does. Ok, first off, there are probably close to a half dozen posts from me defending Becton for getting rolled on so it isn't me who doesn’t have a clue. Moore got hurt because he was a slot playing as the #1 option in his rookie season. That was in a way due to the personnel on the team. You can decide for yourself who is at fault. And you didn't just compare Wilson to Mahomes, did you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: I can't imagine our Owner considering three full seasons (and a half) as a Mulligan with no ramifications, but ok. That would be a massive amount of faith the Johnsons would have in JD to ignore the W/L record completely in such a way. The QB is going into his 2nd season, not 3 and a half seasons. JD didnt draft Darnold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Well, do you or dont you? I'm trying to figure it out and whats so troublesome with asking a question that doesnt get you angry for some reason I'm not angry. You give yourself too much credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: Ok, first off, there are probably close to a half dozen posts from me defending Becton for getting rolled on so it isn't me who doesn’t have a clue. Moore got hurt because he was a slot playing as the #1 option in his rookie season. That was in a way due to the personnel on the team. You can decide for yourself who is at fault. And you didn't just compare Wilson to Mahomes, did you? Becton was an example, if AVT suffers the same injury in year 2 why isnt it comparable? Why is Becton getting rolled up on defensible and Moore being injured for a few weeks make him a bad pick? Youre reasoning is be was the #1 option so thats why he was injured? And its JDs fault that Davis, Chrower etc got hurt forcing Moore to be used more? Really, thats the take? Someone should have warned Cincy. And to clarify, a talented player, a good pick, doesnt become garbage because he missed a couple of games and still manage to lead his team in receiving yardage, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: He has 2 drafts where he stockpiles talent and then firing him because a FQB doesnt work out might be the dumbest thing this team could do. Resetting everything because ZW doesnt develop is laughable. yep, and that it's Woody who would be making that decision , it's even more unlikely. THis is all just silly. Really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 It's very tough to grade JD's first year. He inherited Macc's FA signings including Bell and Mosley and draftees including Polite, Edoga and Wesco. I'm not sure how many of Macc's scouts he retained. They had no real analytics group before he arrived. Turning around a failed franchise like the Jets is almost as hard as trying to turn a battleship. Decades worth of dysfunction to address. We focus on what's in front of the curtain (Becton over Wirfs) and don't see a lot behind the curtain. It's not like a well run machine where a quick tear down and rebuild is possible. I'm not sure what people were expecting him to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 3:24 PM, More Cowbell said: And you didn't just compare Wilson to Mahomes, did you? That when other QBs dont get criticized for doing what all QBs do, yes I did Sorry that confused you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dcat said: yep, and that it's Woody who would be making that decision , it's even more unlikely. THis is all just silly. Really. Just as silly as continuing to ignore the reasons why we didnt have enough talent to have a better record. Because a Macc like 10 win season with a shltty roster would be preferable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Becton was an example, if AVT suffers the same injury in year 2 why isnt it comparable? Why is Becton getting rolled up on defensible and Moore being injured for a few weeks make him a bad pick? Youre reasoning is be was the #1 option so thats why he was injured? And its JDs fault that Davis, Chrower etc got hurt forcing Moore to be used more? Really, thats the take? Someone should have warned Cincy. And to clarify, a talented player, a good pick, doesnt become garbage because he missed a couple of games and still manage to lead his team in receiving yardage, etc. Ok, you are rambling at this point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 22 hours ago, FootballLove said: I always feel bad for these kids coming out of college and starting their professional careers. They've been interviewed by half the league. They've spent time with the coaching staff, the GM, maybe the Owner. They've walked through the sparkling new buildings....weight rooms, study rooms, recovery rooms with massage tables, the cafeteria. They HAVE to have landed an absolute favorite they HOPE HOPE HOPE drafts them. And at the same time, they've decided to PRAY PRAY PRAY certain teams DON'T draft them. The thought of spending the next 4 or 5 years in some absolute sh*thole is soul crushing. Then the draft starts....the team they want doesn't pick them...the team they HATE calls their name. And they have to act super excited to be going there. Uggg. I couldn't do it. Hats off to these kids that pull it off. Pretty positive the Jets are one those holes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 10:47 AM, ZachEY said: Some of you are weird. On 5/4/2022 at 11:12 AM, freestater said: Better to be weird than a scumbag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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