Copernicus Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, The Crusher said: He actually made more sense when he attacked Zach’s character. And that was really the moment when I gave up on Bart, SNY and all the beat writers for that matter. We have multiple YouTube content makers to choose from super flim brake downs to casual (but knowledgable) fans. @Green Bean , @Blah! Blah! Blah!, Frankie from Flatbush, Matt O'Leary, Jets Media, Jets X Factor, Tyson Rouse of Let's Talk Jets, our own Jets Nation and many more. I honestly dont give Bart Scott and the others the time of day after they ridiculously destroyed Zach's character after arguably his best game. F'em 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackdance Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 8 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said: But for this to be a real conversation, Saleh and Wilson have to beat New England first. Agreed. The post-Brady beatings the Pats have put on the Jets have been particularly brutal and humiliating. I’ll hop aboard once we beat the Pats but until that happens this kind of talk is empty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 5 hours ago, NamathToSauer said: In 9 seasons without Brady he's been to the playoffs twice and has one playoff win. If this guy had't lucked into the GOAT QB with a 6th round pick his coaching career would have ended over a decade ago One of those non-playoff seasons was an 11 win team. Please show me a great coach with below average QB play for his career? Is Bill Walsh a HofF genius if Joe was not available in the 6th round? Probably not. Smartest thing he did was probably leave while on top. Is Noll a great coach with out Bradshaw and eight other HofFers? No. His last 12 years won more than 10 games once. missed the playoffs 8 times and had 3 losing seasons. Shula? He went 89-70 his last 10 years with a HofF QB, missed the playoffs 6 times and never even made it to the AFC Championship game. Now, the above two examples might be a sign of Bill's regression. Time will tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: He actually made more sense when he attacked Zach’s character. Are we talking the Tampa game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 58 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Are we talking the Tampa game? Think so, seems seems so long ago now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Molly is super annoying. Like shut up and let him speak. You’re a host/ moderator not the talent 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, PFSIKH said: One of those non-playoff seasons was an 11 win team. Please show me a great coach with below average QB play for his career? Is Bill Walsh a HofF genius if Joe was not available in the 6th round? Probably not. Smartest thing he did was probably leave while on top. Is Noll a great coach with out Bradshaw and eight other HofFers? No. His last 12 years won more than 10 games once. missed the playoffs 8 times and had 3 losing seasons. Shula? He went 89-70 his last 10 years with a HofF QB, missed the playoffs 6 times and never even made it to the AFC Championship game. Now, the above two examples might be a sign of Bill's regression. Time will tell. So youre saying that HCs effect on the game is overrated and the real star of an organization is the GM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, PFSIKH said: Please show me a great coach with below average QB play for his career? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigB Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Belichick was D coach on Jets when Keyshawn played. Probably could not get open in practice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 13 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: Well, they refused to give him the damn ball, for one. Because his ego couldn't take Chrebet being more popular than him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 46 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Rex deserves more credit than what he gets on this board. 2 AFCCGs with Mark Sanchez. thats incredible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: So youre saying that HCs effect on the game is overrated and the real star of an organization is the GM If the GM can’t recognize talent and draft good players the HC is sunk. By the same token if the the GM drafts good players and signs talented free agents and coach can’t get the maximum out of his players they both are out of a job They have to work together. This season is a big one for Saleh as it seems that the talent is there. Him and his staff need to “ coach em up “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxville Jets Fan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Our QB is still a question mark, and a big one, but I would still take the Jets roster over the Patriots all day long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Irish Jet said: Ah, Fat Rex, we hardly knew ye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: So youre saying that HCs effect on the game is overrated and the real star of an organization is the GM Probably depends on team. Seriously, TB12 was not TB12 in 2001. There were traits there that he displayed, but he was not the G.O.A.T. To conflate that today's TB12 play was throughout the entire 20 years and is solely responsible is dumb. 2 hours ago, Irish Jet said: Point taken. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, PFSIKH said: Probably depends on team. Seriously, TB12 was not TB12 in 2001. There were traits there that he displayed, but he was not the G.O.A.T. To conflate that today's TB12 play was throughout the entire 20 years and is solely responsible is dumb. Point taken. ? Brady didnt put up the numbers in 01 but he was a winner and thats what counts. He had Bledsoe to help out too, especially in the playoff game vs the Steelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Used to like Bart. Kinda soured on him after he would destroy Zach after every game last year like he was on a mission Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 20 hours ago, kevinc855 said: Ripe for the slaughter 20 yrs later its ripe huh??? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 18 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Brady didnt put up the numbers in 01 but he was a winner and thats what counts. He had Bledsoe to help out too, especially in the playoff game vs the Steelers. Again, my only point to the other guy's reply is, it is nonsensical to paint Belichick with the "his success is all because of Brady" when ignoring the fact that all great coaches had a great QB tied to their hip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, PFSIKH said: Again, my only point to the other guy's reply is, it is nonsensical to paint Belichick with the "his success is all because of Brady" when ignoring the fact that all great coaches had a great QB tied to their hip. Maybe part of their fall off is they change after being with their teams for 20+ years, theyre not the same HC as they were earlier. Like BB has become. Dinosaurs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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