Dcronin Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I still feel so bad for Lawson, especially since it sounded like he was an absolutely unstoppable beast in camp last year. I really hope he has healed and hasn't lost a step. If he is still a beast, it will free up Solomon Thomas, our rook, and whoever else our DE's are, I feel terrible to not even know. Anyone with a sports medicine background know about this? I know players heal much better from these injuries nowadays than they used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted May 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2022 It was an Achilles, which seems worse to me. I have no idea how it’s gonna go. Luckily, they’ve added a lot to the Edge position this offseason. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 FWIW, I knew two guys I played USTA tennis with, both pretty good athletes and players. Both tore Achilles and eventually came back, but had clearly lost a step. Lawson has pro sports medical resources, so maybe he comes back close to 100%? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post docdhc Posted May 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, slats said: It was an Achilles, which seems worse to me. I have no idea how it’s gonna go. Luckily, they’ve added a lot to the Edge position this offseason. Newer techniques have made surgery more successful and faster recovery. Many players in basketball and football in recent years have made full returns without losing ability. The following article says 80% fully recover. Advancements in Achilles tear surgery and recovery process bode well for Colts By Brett Mock@bamock May 21, 2021, 12:34pm EDT 22 Comments If you buy something from an SB Nation link, Vox Media may earn a commission. See our ethics statement. Share this story Share this on Facebook (opens in new window) Share this on Twitter (opens in new window) SHAREAll sharing options Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports Indianapolis Colts fans are becoming uncomfortably familiar with Achilles' tears and recovery timelines. In 2020, both running back Marlon Mack and safety Malik Hooker suffered season-ending Achilles injuries. Chris Ballard added two other players with Achilles injuries suffered in January when he drafted Dayo Odeyingbo in the second round of the 2021 NFL Draft and signed former Pro Bowler Eric Fisher to fill the void created by Anthony Castonzo’s retirement. Queue the Trojan Horse memes. Three of those four players could play a big role in how the Colts fair in 2021 and history tells us that returning from Achilles injuries isn’t particularly promising. It’s the kind of injury that has ended careers for professional athletes in multiple sports. So, why would the Colts appear so haphazard in their approach to the injury with so much at stake? The Athletic’s Stephen Holder penned an incredibly insightful story discussing advancements in Achilles surgery and recovery processes that can help to provide the answer (subscription only). In the story, Holder interviewed a variety of orthopedic surgeons to get their professional perspectives. Key Takeaways The surgical and recovery process for an Achilles injury has advanced considerably over the last decade. This is in no small part due to contributions from former Colts’ medical staff member Dr. Donald Shelbourne. A key to this advancement is a more aggressive rehabilitation process that starts within 72 hours after surgery. This reduces the atrophy of the muscles impacted by the injury. The three-month mark is an important milestone for athletes in recovery. Dr. David Geier, a south Carolina orthopedic surgeon, explains: “By three months, you want to have full range of motion back. You want to be able to walk without any change in your gait pattern and in normal shoes.” Additionally, Dr. Tim Kremchek, orthopedic surgeon and medical director for the Cincinnati Reds, explains there are other observations to make during a medical examination at the three-month mark. “The biggest problem you have with fixing an Achilles is that you have to fix it at the right length. If you fix it and it heals and it’s too long, you might never have the power and the push-off strength... But by three months, you can tell whether they’ve got the proper length and the proper healing process to give you a better prognosis.” Despite the advancements, there’s no way to provide an accurate timeline for recovery. The projections for a full recovery and timeline differ by sport and position. Running back and linebacker are particularly challenging due to how often players at each position have to make hard cuts. The successful recovery rate for NFL players is encouraging, over 80 percent. Dr. Geier adds: “My experience is that once people do get back and they get through that first season, there’s no reason to think that it’s going to be a problem down the road,” Geier said. “My experience is that they do really well.” The Colts have a lot of medical science providing reasons for their optimism that Mack, Odeyingbo, and Fisher can make a full recovery and return to the field. What they can’t know, is each player’s timeline. Chris Ballard has said as much in recent interviews, preaching patience. Colts fans should feel a little better about the long-term outlook for each of the impacted players but will have plenty of reason to wonder how things will play out this season. Where’s that Trojan Horse? 9 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcronin Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 Thanks guys. Poor guy. Leaves a team that goes to the Superbowl, looks great in camp, then has to sit all Fall and winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 We only need 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pac Posted May 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2022 Didn't Cameron Wake tear his Achilles and come back just as strong? Everything I've read about Lawson makes me believe he's the kind of guy who is attacking rehab so with any luck he should be good. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, slats said: It was an Achilles, which seems worse to me. I have no idea how it’s gonna go. Luckily, they’ve added a lot to the Edge position this offseason. luckily Lawson is a workout warrior so at least you know he's giving 100 % 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, docdhc said: Newer techniques have made surgery more successful and faster recovery. Many players in basketball and football in recent years have made full returns without losing ability. The following article says 80% fully recover. This is very encouraging. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Not sure if it is a pure comparison but Cam Akers came back very strong last year after a 7 month recovery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, Pac said: Didn't Cameron Wake tear his Achilles and come back just as strong? Everything I've read about Lawson makes me believe he's the kind of guy who is attacking rehab so with any luck he should be good. Yup. Was just about to mention this. Tore his achilles in 2015 and came back with back to back double digit sack seasons in 2016 & 17. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, slats said: It was an Achilles, which seems worse to me. I have no idea how it’s gonna go. Luckily, they’ve added a lot to the Edge position this offseason. Terrell Suggs did it, and came back, but he was not the same either. The only thing that is slightly helpful is he did it so early, so there will be over a year between surgery and game 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 With all the additions to upgrade the pass rush...if Lawson comes back in the 90s%... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 hour ago, chirorob said: Terrell Suggs did it, and came back, but he was not the same either. The only thing that is slightly helpful is he did it so early, so there will be over a year between surgery and game 1 Suggs tore both his Achilles in the span of a few years and was already 30 when it happened the first time. The first 2 full seasons after his first injury he had monster years, on par with any 2 year stretch in his career. Even after the 2nd time he posted nearly 20 sacks combined the next two years, well into his 30s at that point. What a freak. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 I’m worried about Lawson. The guy has been working his butt off from the sound of it, but an achilles injury is scary for a guy whose game is mostly about speed. He can’t really afford to lose anything. He’s good at pressuring the qb but doesn’t seem get a lot of sacks. I like the guy and I’m pulling for him but he scares me. I really hope he’s one of the 80%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets8 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Dcronin said: Thanks guys. Poor guy. Leaves a team that goes to the Superbowl, looks great in camp, then has to sit all Fall and winter. Poor baby made millions too boo who 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets8 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Sigh, hopefully he’s back and fine. Jet up and such lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM28 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 9 hours ago, slats said: It was an Achilles, which seems worse to me. I have no idea how it’s gonna go. Luckily, they’ve added a lot to the Edge position this offseason. Absolutely wrong (thank …). Fun fact is that you never tear the same Achilles again. I don’t know about speed but many who tear one, often tear the other soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 vinny had an achilles and so has marino. both of those guys came back but marino had a noticeable limp. not the same position as edge but it just takes more time for the affected leg to be built up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 vinny had an achilles and so has marino. both of those guys came back but marino had a noticeable limp. not the same position as edge but it just takes more time for the affected leg to be built up again. Back in those days ... Achilles was a career ender for most. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 15 years ago he's probably never the same but the advances in surgery have been massive. Lawson is also clearly a worker. Fingers crossed he comes back at 100% but you never know. Worst case he's probably a serviceable rotation guy and we get out of the contract as early as we can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Achilles is worse than ACL. Players in all sports come back from ACLs all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 6:28 AM, rangerous said: vinny had an achilles and so has marino. both of those guys came back but marino had a noticeable limp. not the same position as edge but it just takes more time for the affected leg to be built up again. Vinny was also a traditional drop back qb. He only really needed his legs for throwing it wasn’t like he was Lamar Jackson averaging 100 yards rushing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, Dwight Englewood said: Vinny was also a traditional drop back qb. He only really needed his legs for throwing it wasn’t like he was Lamar Jackson averaging 100 yards rushing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets512 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Kevin Durant is a recent example of someone coming back as strong as ever. Different sport but given the nature of Durant’s game I think it bodes well for Lawson. It’s definitely different than it was even 10-12 years ago. Kobe Bryant came back a shell of his former self, albeit at an older age. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 4:01 PM, Dcronin said: Thanks guys. Poor guy. Leaves a team that goes to the Superbowl, looks great in camp, then has to sit all Fall and winter. Thats what normally happens when you come to the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I'm not as concerned with Lawson losing ability after his injury as i am with him getting injured again. He has a lengthy history of injuries getting in his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg555 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 If in the 22 season..the Jets just have an average rank…regarding injuries and games missed by key players..I’’d be thrilled. Certainly hasn’t been the case over the last several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 3:56 PM, slats said: It was an Achilles, which seems worse to me. I have no idea how it’s gonna go. Luckily, they’ve added a lot to the Edge position this offseason. Agree. An Achilles rupture both physically and psychologically is a hard injury to come back from particularly for a power burst edge rusher. Don’t expect much from Lawson this year. Maybe next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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