Bronx Posted Saturday at 11:37 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:37 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted Saturday at 11:40 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 11:40 AM Isnt it kinda like that for every #1 CB? 9 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted Saturday at 11:45 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 11:45 AM 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Isnt it kinda like that for every #1 CB? The Jets are probably facing the best WRs in the league this year. A lot to ask for a rookie CB but it will also benefit his growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted Saturday at 12:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:06 PM 19 minutes ago, Bronx said: The Jets are probably facing the best WRs in the league this year. A lot to ask for a rookie CB but it will also benefit his growth. So pretty much the same for the fish, Pats and Bills. I'll stand by pretty much the same for everyone. Not too many teams that dont have a candidate for "best WR in the league this year" on their roster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 32EBoozer Posted Saturday at 12:15 PM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 12:15 PM 25 minutes ago, Bronx said: The Jets are probably facing the best WRs in the league this year. A lot to ask for a rookie CB but it will also benefit his growth. Place Whitehead behind him and let the kid just focus on jamming and shadowing all over the field. I doubt he’ll have learned the nuances of Jets “15 yard cushion” defense. It’s all the rage Zone + 1 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted Saturday at 12:22 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:22 PM Im expecting Saleh to stick his corners on one side and leave them there. That’s the way he likes running his defense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted Saturday at 12:24 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:24 PM DROY 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darnold's Forehead Posted Saturday at 12:39 PM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 12:39 PM This is assuming he is going to be treated as CB1 right out of the gate. I’d assume it’s likely but no one knows for sure. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted Saturday at 12:39 PM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 12:39 PM Is their a graphic like this for stingly? Cause he faces aj brown, davante adams, tyreke hill, amari cooper, cee dee lamb, terry mclauren, michael pittman, keenan allen, darnell mooney etc. Sauce isnt going through a gauntlet. He playing 17 nfl games. Every corner is going to be facing elite players week in and week out. 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted Saturday at 12:42 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:42 PM 20 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Im expecting Saleh to stick his corners on one side and leave them there. That’s the way he likes running his defense. With the schedule they’re facing, he’ll have an opportunity to make his case. 6 picks this season would strengthen his argument. Heaven knows he should be targeted enough 18 minutes ago, Larz said: DROY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted Saturday at 12:53 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:53 PM Sauce should do very well against the bigger receivers. His straight line speed and length should match up well. The shifty quick guys are going to be a problem, and the polished route runners are also likely going to be a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted Saturday at 01:24 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:24 PM 31 minutes ago, Hael said: Sauce should do very well against the bigger receivers. His straight line speed and length should match up well. The shifty quick guys are going to be a problem, and the polished route runners are also likely going to be a problem. He shouldn't have gone number 4 overall then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted Saturday at 01:37 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:37 PM nah bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted Saturday at 01:45 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:45 PM It’s honestly not a terrible schedule. That’s just the NFL. We also don’t really know how matchups will work. Are they going to play sides, and if not how do they want to deploy the guys they have? It also strikes me that Reed is a shorter, quick DB who mirrors well but doesn’t have elite long speed. Sauce has better recovery speed and length. So letting Reed mirror the more technically savvy route runners who are are pretty prevalent as #1’s but giving him safety help over the top may make sense. Especially now given he’s a little more experienced and maybe better prepared to handle technicians, especially in the short to intermediate areas, as Sauce adjust to the pro level. Against the Bengals for example, I could argue that MCII on Boyd, Sauce on Higgins, and Reed on Chase with safety help is smart. Could be similar with the Vikings and Jefferson/Thielen. Sauce will have multiple smaller, shiftier guys to practice against too which I’m sure will help his development. He’s got great fluidity for his size so he could absolutely be ready to do that stuff week one but if the jump is hard it could be helpful for both guys - with Reed being smaller too - to be deployed in that fashion, certainly in certain matchups. Against the Dolphins both guys are smaller and have wheels so it probably depends more what areas of the field they’ll attack with each player. And all that said, they may just play sides anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted Saturday at 01:50 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:50 PM 1 hour ago, GreenFish said: Im expecting Saleh to stick his corners on one side and leave them there. That’s the way he likes running his defense. I was gonna say something like this. I don’t see Sauce matched up with the other team’s #1 WR every week a la Revis. They may get there eventually, if he’s what we all hope he is, but I doubt it happens his rookie year. Could see them trying to have Gardner on the taller receivers and Reed on the smaller ones, though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted Saturday at 01:51 PM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 01:51 PM 1 hour ago, GreenFish said: Im expecting Saleh to stick his corners on one side and leave them there. That’s the way he likes running his defense. +1 This is the way they used Sherman. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted Saturday at 02:42 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:42 PM So, according to this Tweet we should breath easy: Week1 Week4 Week6 Week8 Week10 Week11 Week12 Week15 Week16 And are we really worried about an oft-injured Amari Cooper, Courtland Sutton against our tall press CB, anybody getting passes from Tua Tagovailoa, or Drew Lock throwing to DK Metcalf? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted Saturday at 02:44 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:44 PM Welcome to Sauce Island 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted Saturday at 02:58 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:58 PM 13 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Welcome to Sauce Island My nomination for captain ^^^ @T0mShane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted Saturday at 03:12 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:12 PM 28 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: So, according to this Tweet we should breath easy: Week1 Week4 Week6 Week8 Week10 Week11 Week12 Week15 Week16 And are we really worried about an oft-injured Amari Cooper, Courtland Sutton against our tall press CB, anybody getting passes from Tua Tagovailoa, or Drew Lock throwing to DK Metcalf? This. Cooper and Sutton are not WR1s. Metcalf won't be close with Seattle's QB. Gardner will likely not cover these guys on every play. Can we stop trying to reinvent Revis? It's ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted Saturday at 03:27 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:27 PM 2 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: He shouldn't have gone number 4 overall then. Yup. I’m expecting him to lock down his side period. They’ll be a learning curve but definitely by year 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted Saturday at 04:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:14 PM 2 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: He shouldn't have gone number 4 overall then. 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted Saturday at 04:30 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:30 PM Out of all the players in this draft I honestly felt the best about sauce, never thought we would take him though with us signing DJ… I think sauce hits the ground running and even if he struggles I don’t see him ever being Okudah terrible. even if sauce struggles in his rookie campaign, fellas be patient because I believe we a future nfl Superstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted Saturday at 08:44 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:44 PM 9 hours ago, Bronx said: Trial by fire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted Saturday at 09:33 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:33 PM I doubt Sauce is shadowing receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted Saturday at 09:42 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:42 PM This is the cornerback version of "Its all on Zach now". Um, no its not. This is a team and everyone needs to pitch in The season doesnt fall on any 1 players shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted Saturday at 09:48 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:48 PM Isnt it kinda like that for every #1 CB?Until they play the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted Saturday at 09:54 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:54 PM This is the cornerback version of "Its all on Zach now". Um, no its not. This is a team and everyone needs to pitch in The season doesnt fall on any 1 players shoulders.Taken at 4 I beg to differ ... Revis (14) was taken later ... D Sanders(5), J Ramsey(5), R Woodson(10), Peterson(5) ... Play like these guys and the pick was justified ... dont and it was a severely flawed valuation. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted Saturday at 11:00 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:00 PM 8 hours ago, BigRy56 said: Welcome to Sauce Island Special Sauce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted Saturday at 11:20 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:20 PM I heard the 17 WRs that have to face Sauce have all asked to be traded to the NFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted Sunday at 05:19 AM Share Posted Sunday at 05:19 AM 7 hours ago, Dunnie said: Taken at 4 I beg to differ ... Revis (14) was taken later ... D Sanders(5), J Ramsey(5), R Woodson(10), Peterson(5) ... Play like these guys and the pick was justified ... dont and it was a severely flawed valuation. That would imply that the value at #4 in this draft is equivalent to that same slot in every other draft, and that’s just not the case. Look at who went 1-2-3… 1. A measurements guy without stats. 2. A high-floor/low ceiling, motor guy with one year of stats. 3. A low-floor/high ceiling, injury risk with one year of stats. This pick has NOTHING to do with any other draft. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted Sunday at 11:20 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:20 AM Sauce is a very good prospect, but he will inevitably have an adjustment period in the NFL. He often played against lesser competition in college and was rarely targeted. That will change in the NFL, and it will be a challenging experience. I don't think he'll go through entire games with being targeted in the NFL, so he will have to adjust to that. Since we picked him, I've gone back and watched quite a few Cincy games. Gardner is very impressive, but he does have things to work on. He can get a bit grabby on longer routes, which he won't get away with in the NFL. His tackling will need to improve in the NFL too, especially when playing in zone. He's not Revis, who is the best technical CB I have ever seen, but Gardner is extremely talented and can become a top-tier NFL CB in time. He's sort of a cross between Antonio Cromartie and Richard Sherman, with the ability to be as good as those guys once he adjusts to the NFL game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cp561 Posted Sunday at 11:59 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:59 AM Revis was not Revis his rookie year. Huge adjustment period going from Cinci to the NFL, so I expect a potentially bumpy rookie season, although some guys like Surtain last year showed us having an elite rookie year isn't out of the realm of possibility. Still, I'm very fairly confident that in due time Sauce is going to be a hell of an NFL corner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted Sunday at 12:07 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:07 PM That would imply that the value at #4 in this draft is equivalent to that same slot in every other draft, and that’s just not the case. Look at who went 1-2-3… 1. A measurements guy without stats. 2. A high-floor/low ceiling, motor guy with one year of stats. 3. A low-floor/high ceiling, injury risk with one year of stats. This pick has NOTHING to do with any other draft. If you want to play that game ... if London sparkles or Thibs dominates... but to discount every draft in history is a sad mistake. It seems like you are saying that this draft is an outlier in history.Fact remains the kid was drafted 4 overall ... a slot that does not allow for development... a slot that expects to produce a dominant starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cp561 Posted Sunday at 12:22 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:22 PM 15 minutes ago, Dunnie said: If you want to play that game ... if London sparkles or Thibs dominates... but to discount every draft in history is a sad mistake. It seems like you are saying that this draft is an outlier in history. Fact remains the kid was drafted 4 overall ... a slot that does not allow for development... a slot that expects to produce a dominant starter. Absolutely ridiculous comment. Sorry to break it to you bud but it's pretty likely that Sauce won't "dominate" right out of the gate. Corner is one of the hardest transitions from college to the pros, and for the most part, highly drafted corners usually face struggles out of the gates 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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