Bless you....Thank you Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Lamar presents a very specific, narrow challenge to defenses. They generally arent used to prepping for a guy who is so mobile and can bounce to the end zone on any play. The Jets have a huge advantage that this game is Week 1 . Its like having a 4 month long bye week to scheme and prepare for this unique Qb. I think they revamped Jets D is well prepared and shuts this guy down week 1. Jets 24 Ravens 10 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 It will interesting to see if the Ravens begin to look out for his longevity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cp561 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I'm very optimistic that our defense will be much improved, but the fact is Lamar is a former MVP and the Jets were the 32nd ranked defense last season. But I hope you're right 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 Bookmarked. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biggs Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 Jackson is 37 and 12 in 49 Game starts with a QBR of 98.1. Harbaugh is arguably one of the elite NFL HC. The game plan aspect of game 1 is a decidely two sided coin. At this point Lamar is a much more proven QB in the passing game than Zach. I'm not saying we can't win, we can. I just think the rational is a little crazy. The Jets can win if we have a very good roster which we might and Zach plays well and our coaching staff doesn't make some small mistakes in clock management, challenges and when to go for it and when to punt or kick the FG, etc., etc,. etc... The Ravens are a solid not great roster who generally play smart football. Harbaugh, when he feels his team is at a disadvantage in personal often takes above average risk to try and win games. If we see him doing that it's a very good sign that we have something. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, Bless you....Thank you said: Lamar presents a very specific, narrow challenge to defenses. They generally arent used to prepping for a guy who is so mobile and can bounce to the end zone on any play. The Jets have a huge advantage that this game is Week 1 . Its like having a 4 month long bye week to scheme and prepare for this unique Qb. I think they revamped Jets D is well prepared and shuts this guy down week 1. Jets 24 Ravens 10 Have you seen Lamar Jackson's history in Week 1 games? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asymmetrical Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 There are 32 teams that would swap Wilson for Jackson in a heartbeat 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 Let's try a different thought process here. 40 minutes ago, Bless you....Thank you said: Its like having a 4 month long bye week to scheme and prepare for this unique Qb. This is a QB who in the past three seasons during Week 1 never threw an INT and passed for 9 TDs. Now, let's give HIM 4 months to prepare for a Jets defense. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 The Ravens are 3-1 on opening day with Lamar Jackson as the starter with the one loss coming in overtime at Oakland last year. That doesn't really jibe with the idea that facing him week 1 makes it easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 42 minutes ago, Bless you....Thank you said: Lamar presents a very specific, narrow challenge to defenses. They generally arent used to prepping for a guy who is so mobile and can bounce to the end zone on any play. The Jets have a huge advantage that this game is Week 1 . Its like having a 4 month long bye week to scheme and prepare for this unique Qb. I think they revamped Jets D is well prepared and shuts this guy down week 1. Jets 24 Ravens 10 Lamar Jackson for his career completes 64% of his passes, with a better than 2-1 TD to INT ratio. If he stayed healthy last year, he would have thrown for just over 4000 yards, albeit in a 17 game season. Meanwhile, he is also a premier running back, with multiple 1000 yard seasons, averaging over 6 yards per carry. Oh, and the Jets defense was rated dead last in total yards allowed last year. Yes, I expect them to be better, but a huge improvement, ie 1000 less yards allowed this year from last year, would have them ranked #18, which is still slightly below average. Add in to that the huge number of very young players on the roster, (who I expect to improve as the year goes on), I think the Jets will be in for a very challenging week 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 It's such a huge advantage. There's literally no reason for the jets to even let them score. If they allow more than 3 then Saleh needs to go! Some of ya'll are setting insane expectation again... and you'll freak out if they're not met.. again. Does running in that wheel not get tiring? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I like the optimism. I also think you're wrong. Ravens were probably the only team more injured than the Jets last year and they still won 8 (Lamar went 7-5 under terrible circumstances). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 QBs like Lamar Jackson play and win in today's NFL. You wanna set yourself up for an L -- approach week 1 with OP's mentality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 The lack of respect for Lamar Jackson is baffling. Look at his opening day resume. Heck, look at his resume overall. I pray for the day when Zach Wilson can be the “gimmick” QB that Jackson has become. Also, what gimmick are we talking about here? Scoring touchdowns? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MykePM Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: Let's try a different thought process here. This is a QB who in the past three seasons during Week 1 never threw an INT and passed for 9 TDs. Now, let's give HIM 4 months to prepare for a Jets defense. Frankly, I hope that the Ravens spend 4 months looking at tape of the Jets defense. The more they look at last season's performance, the more overconfident they'll get. Plus, the 2021 Jets D will look very different from this year's model, with at least 50% of this year's starters being different than last year's. Maybe they can gameplan against general tendencies of a Saleh/Ulbrich defense, but plays they draw up to beat the 2021 Jets D may not be as successful with better players executing the defense. Plus, with the improved talent, particularly in the secondary, Ulbrich may be able to open up the defensive playbook more and show looks that weren't utilized much or at all last year. This is not to say that I expect Jackson and the Ravens offense to be shut down, but I'd give the "4 month prep" advantage to the Jets in this case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, MykePM said: Frankly, I hope that the Ravens spend 4 months looking at tape of the Jets defense. The more they look at last season's performance, the more overconfident they'll get. Plus, the 2021 Jets D will look very different from this year's model, with at least 50% of this year's starters being different than last year's. Maybe they can gameplan against general tendencies of a Saleh/Ulbrich defense, but plays they draw up to beat the 2021 Jets D may not be as successful with better players executing the defense. Plus, with the improved talent, particularly in the secondary, Ulbrich may be able to open up the defensive playbook more and show looks that weren't utilized much or at all last year. This is not to say that I expect Jackson and the Ravens offense to be shut down, but I'd give the "4 month prep" advantage to the Jets in this case. Agree 100% with what I highlighted. Very different defense, probably at least 5 new starters which is almost 50% of the D. With that said, this D hasn't played together before and those new parts (including some key rookies) will take some time to gel. It's a tall order to face a Lamar Jackson right off the bat in Week 1 because you can't really slip on more than a play or two. You need to be tight with assignments, run fits, discipline, etc. Otherwise Lamar finds a crease, a rookie mistake.... and he's gone to the house. To the general idea of this thread that Week 1 is a good thing for the Jets, I'd argue the opposite. Instead of 4 months to plan for Lamar Jackson I'd prefer to have the Jets get 8 games under their belt as a defense before they had to face him. Maybe that's just me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Bless you....Thank you said: Lamar presents a very specific, narrow challenge to defenses. They generally arent used to prepping for a guy who is so mobile and can bounce to the end zone on any play. The Jets have a huge advantage that this game is Week 1 . Its like having a 4 month long bye week to scheme and prepare for this unique Qb. I think they revamped Jets D is well prepared and shuts this guy down week 1. Jets 24 Ravens 10 I’m pretty sure they have won’t be doing that for 4 months. And correct me if I’m wrong, don’t the Ravens also have 4 months to prep for our all world QB? As for the game, I think It’ll be close and Ravens win on a quick last minute FG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 My guess is the Ravens will run the ball and play hard-nosed D focused around getting Zach out of rhythm and stuffing the run. I also think Lamar has become a better passing QB and will probably make it a bigger part of his game this season. This will be a hard fought game but I don't see the Jets winning. Certainly not by 2 TDs. If anything they might squeak it out by a few points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 6 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Have you seen Lamar Jackson's history in Week 1 games? I only got as far as the first one & by then I'd seen enough: just 1 of 4 passing, plus he took a sack and fumbled, too. Pathetic. We've totally got this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 It will be interesting to see how our defense is deployed against a team like Baltimore with such a great running threat at QB but very little game breaking ability on the outside. To me, its a great opportunity to use Hall as our nickel back. Playing a 4-2-5 with Hall at the nickel allows to keep 2 run stoppers at LB in Mosley and Quincy. We can rotate 4 defensive lineman all game and should be able to utilize someone like Kyle Phillips to help in the run game. Most importantly Whitehead can do what he does best and play in the box as a LB and leave Sauce and DJ alone on the outside with Hall playing as the nickel against Andrews. Andrews is a beast of a matchup for anyone but at least Hall has some size at 6'1 to keep pace in the middle of the field. I sincerely hope that Saleh and Ulbrich drafted Sauce with the thought in mind that he can be left on an island so that other players can provide help in zone or vs the run and this should be a great opportunity to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Bless you....Thank you said: Lamar presents a very specific, narrow challenge to defenses. They generally arent used to prepping for a guy who is so mobile and can bounce to the end zone on any play. The Jets have a huge advantage that this game is Week 1 . Its like having a 4 month long bye week to scheme and prepare for this unique Qb. I think they revamped Jets D is well prepared and shuts this guy down week 1. Jets 24 Ravens 10 I will say this. Even before the injury Lamar was not being as effective as he was in years past. His style of play is unsustainable long term 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, BCJet said: It will be interesting to see how our defense is deployed against a team like Baltimore with such a great running threat at QB but very little game breaking ability on the outside. To me, its a great opportunity to use Hall as our nickel back. Playing a 4-2-5 with Hall at the nickel allows to keep 2 run stoppers at LB in Mosley and Quincy. We can rotate 4 defensive lineman all game and should be able to utilize someone like Kyle Phillips to help in the run game. Most importantly Whitehead can do what he does best and play in the box as a LB and leave Sauce and DJ alone on the outside with Hall playing as the nickel against Andrews. Andrews is a beast of a matchup for anyone but at least Hall has some size at 6'1 to keep pace in the middle of the field. I sincerely hope that Saleh and Ulbrich drafted Sauce with the thought in mind that he can be left on an island so that other players can provide help in zone or vs the run and this should be a great opportunity to do that He might put both Reed and Sauce on Islands for more than just the Ravens game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 This is even worse than the "Pig is ripe" threads that always backfire... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 7 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: It's such a huge advantage. There's literally no reason for the jets to even let them score. If they allow more than 3 then Saleh needs to go! Some of ya'll are setting insane expectation again... and you'll freak out if they're not met.. again. Does running in that wheel not get tiring? This is some really solid sarcasm. Nice job J! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Gimmick? smfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 We're going to have to score more than 24 points to win this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Bless you....Thank you said: Lamar presents a very specific, narrow challenge to defenses. They generally arent used to prepping for a guy who is so mobile and can bounce to the end zone on any play. The Jets have a huge advantage that this game is Week 1 . Its like having a 4 month long bye week to scheme and prepare for this unique Qb. I think they revamped Jets D is well prepared and shuts this guy down week 1. Jets 24 Ravens 10 Interesting... Ravens 32 Jets 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Everyone point and laugh at @Gastineau Lives for repping this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets0712 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Let’s just hope Lamar treats game 1 like it’s a playoff game. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 43 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Everyone point and laugh at @Gastineau Lives for repping this thread. I'll give you something to point and laugh at. Also, you're a giant nerd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 This went as well as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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