Dcronin Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/former-new-york-jets-scout-explains-jermaine-johnson-first-round-pick-mistake-2022-nfl-draft Ex-Jets Scout Explains Why New York Made a Mistake Drafting Jermaine Johnson This former Jets scout thinks Johnson will struggle at the next level, saying he's disappointed in GM Joe Douglas for trading up to pick him in the first round. DANIEL KELLY 22 HOURS AGO The Jets really helped themselves with the selection of Ahmad Gardner and Garrett Wilson in the first round of the recent NFL draft. However, New York reached—I mean they really reached—on the Jermaine Johnson pick at No. 26 overall. New York traded back up into the first-round to select the FSU edge rusher, and as a former Jets’ scout, I was super disappointed. Nothing against Johnson, but shame on the Jets’ scouting department and shame on team General Manager Joe Douglas. I’m sorry, but I am not a part of this media hype machine. I am an evaluator and when someone gets whipped on game film against Wake Forest, excuse me for not getting excited. Pre-draft, I had put a fifth-round grade on Johnson. Who am I? I am the guy who told anyone who would listen, defensive end Dorian Boose was an undraftable reject in my interview with the Jets. Boose was New York’s top draft choice that year, and he went on to become a bust. I know what I am seeing on game film and Johnson is not the answer as a pass rusher for the New York Jets. Bottom line, Johnson is an opportunistic hustler who does not have the athletic ability nor the needed skill set to create pressure. He looked downright soft coming off the edge most of the time against college level competition, which does not bold well for Johnson now going up against far more talented personnel in the NFL. There was nothing on Johnson’s game film that remotely suggested he was an elite first-round pass rusher. If anything, Johnson is far better against the run. However, that is not going to win anything for the Jets in today’s pass happy league. This is not our Grandpa’s three-yards and a cloud of dust NFL anymore. Johnson will struggle getting to the quarterback for a lot of reasons. Former Jets Scout Explains Why Drafting Jermaine Johnson Was a Mistake This ex-NFL scout thinks Jets EDGE Jermaine Johnson will struggle at the next level, saying New York's selection of the pass rusher in the first round will be costly down the road. Grading Jermaine Johnson Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports 6-foot-5, 262 pounds 2021 game film reviewed: Notre Dame, Miami, North Carolina and Wake Forest Grade: D (below average) Scouting Report Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports Opportunistic hustler with good hand usage, but average football playing speed, average burst into the pocket and he is stiff. Flip flops from left to right side and can play with his hand in the dirt or standing up. Fights and gives top effort at all times and makes his plays as a direct result of that. He either ends up at the right place at the right time or when left clean to make garbage sacks. Battles and uses his hands rushing the passer, but shows no pop or explosiveness at the point of attack. Gets hung out to dry on the perimeter of the pocket often. Flashed spin move literally once in four games. Raw pass rusher with limited pass rush tools and arsenal of moves. No frills. Lacks top shelf football speed needed to win and has average bull rush power that gets curtailed by college level offensive linemen most of the time. Often stalemated on inside stunts and games. Struggled to make sudden adjustments in the pocket due to noticeable hip rigidity. Best when he is left clean or when the QB makes himself available to him by stepping up or rolling out to his side and he can easily move in. Highly competitive against the run. Not afraid to bang around and get in on the stop if at all possible. Solid wrapping tackler and a hard hitter. Struggled to disengage if seriously contested. Only really a factor once the action reaches his level. Classic try-hard who was grossly overvalued and over-graded. Bottom Line Anne-Marie Caruso/NorthJersey.com / USA TODAY NETWORK Douglas needed to get someone in here that can get to the QB, and he failed to do so with this pick. He failed to select a defender in the first-round who can win the edge. I am putting it out there in plain English before the first snap of the regular season. There were a plethora of edge rushing prospects who showed they can wreck the pocket on their college game film still on the board when Douglas reached for Johnson (Cameron Thomas, Nik Bonitto, Myjai Sanders and Arnold Ebiketie). Interior pass rushing demons Devante Wyatt and Logan Hall were still sitting there too. It is not good, especially considering all the prolific passers that are littered all over the Jets’ schedule this season. The selection of Johnson will prove to be very costly to the Jets and Douglas’ tenure with New York when we look back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BettyBoop Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 So his bona fides is that he said someone we drafted 25 years ago was a bust. That's funny. 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Oh no. A "former scout" who last a few years in the league and now runs a blog, thinks he's a bad pick. Oh noooo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PepPep Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 Did you say former scout? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrcoops Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 This guy was as low level as they come with the Jets for about 10 minutes. His self-promoting hot takes are as worthless as they are dull. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hal N of Provo Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 Former McDonalds fry cook doesn’t like McDonalds. More news at 11. 1 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GreenFish Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 Must be a scout Joe D fired. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 What do Jet fans do? Do they get up every morning and immediately google, "Negative Jet News"? Its a disease. 6 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 This might sound kinda dick-ish but the paragraph for every sentence or 2 makes me think he's a complete and total moron. That, or SI needs to hire a copy editor. Not saying I'm a wordsmith but this is juvenile looking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Green Truth Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 Until they put the pads on and bullets are flying no one knows anything what these players will be. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, PepPep said: Did you say former scout? Yeah, and Dorian Boose was what, 25 years ago? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 there isn't a player coming out of college that is 100% ready to play in an NFL game. the comment about the run is pretty funny since setting the edge is one of the edge rusher's responsibility. maybe the nfl isn't 3 yards and a cloud of dust but if a team can make good gains running the ball to the outside (or throwing) they will. i don't see this as a disadvantage for johnson. obviously we'll see soon enough if the boose comparison is valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bronx Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 Truly yours, Kavon Thibodeaux 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Also love how he brings up Wake Forest. You mean the #4 Offense in the country Wake Forest, that one? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Blast Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 So the Jets were drafting poorly. So the Jets fired Daniel Kelly, the former scout and author of this article. [END THREAD] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Can we just make one "Negative Jet News" thread? We can throw the Brady Quinn thread in there etc. This way, Jet fans can get their fix of negative crap all in one place. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hex Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: What do Jet fans do? Do they get up every morning and immediately google, "Negative Jet News"? Its a disease. Wow, it actually worked! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gibby Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 Scout.. Didn’t they buy Jets Insider and run it into the ground? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I mean did you watch that Wake Forest game? JJ wasn’t much that game. 19 minutes ago, Jet9 said: This might sound kinda dick-ish but the paragraph for every sentence or 2 makes me think he's a complete and total moron. That, or SI needs to hire a copy editor. Not saying I'm a wordsmith but this is juvenile looking. Not SI. It’s a fan site hosted by Sports Illustrated. It’s just a blog. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 He also claims the Jets wont win their 1st game until week 13. Good for him, theres a reason he writes for a rag internet blog and isnt a scout for a team 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adoni Beast Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 Chances are that if your resume currently reads "Former" + "Jets" you suck at your job. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skeptable Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 SI notoriously hates the Jets... You fell for the click bait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbia Jet Fan Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Given its the same website - its probably the same guy who did this: https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/2022-nfl-mock-draft-new-york-jets-scout-full-first-round-kayvon-thibodeaux-ikem-ekwonu-malik-willis#gid=ci029dc7e760002674&pid=1-jacksonville-jaguars-aidan-hutchinson-edge-michigan Malik at 2 - Matt Corrall at 3 overall Linderbaum at 6 Trey McBride at 11 - Carson Strong at 12 - Cameron Thomas at 13 - So maybe there is a bit of a disconnect btwn how he thinks and how the NFL does... who cares 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: Chances are that if your resume currently reads "Former" + "Jets" you suck at your job. Maybe not the greatest HC ever, but I hated that they dumped him for Rich Kotite at the time, and certainly more as the years went on. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Formers Jet scout? That's like taking meditation advice from Putin or chick advice from the 40 year old virgin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, nycdan said: Maybe not the greatest HC ever, but I hated that they dumped him for Rich Kotite at the time, and certainly more as the years went on. He certainly was better than Kotite, that's for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, kdels62 said: I mean did you watch that Wake Forest game? JJ wasn’t much that game. Not SI. It’s a fan site hosted by Sports Illustrated. It’s just a blog. 10 total tackles and half sack in a game where FSU got their asses kicked and committed 6 turnovers. I'm not really even defending JJ as much as I am saying that Kelly must have some bias or ignorance to WF and maybe CFB in general. Second part kinda proves my point I guess. A grown ass man writing like that and the message is about how much he knows is kinda cringe, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 This guy should use the word Scout in a few more of his article headlines. There might be a few people that still don't know. Geez. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kdels62 Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Jet9 said: 10 total tackles and half sack in a game where FSU got their asses kicked and committed 6 turnovers. I'm not really even defending JJ as much as I am saying that Kelly must have some bias or ignorance to WF and maybe CFB in general. Second part kinda proves my point I guess. A grown ass man writing like that and the message is about how much he knows is kinda cringe, no? Sure. Johnson still wasn’t good in that game. He also wasn’t good against North Carolina. Or when lined up against the LT at Miami. His half sack was a gang tackle when he was the 3rd player to get there on his team. Johnson might be a good player and he’s definitely not a 5th round talent like this blogger claims but his criticisms are valid up to a point. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Maxman said: This guy should use the word Scout in a few more of his article headlines. There might be a few people that still don't know. Geez. Funny thing is, I don't think he was ever actually a Jets scout - as in, he wasn't assigned games or players to go and scout. From what I can see, he was a very low-level employee in the scouting department. The sort of guy who cuts up tape on players and does statistical reports. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Don’t care, but JJ was my least favorite pick this year. The Jets clearly thought otherwise, and I hope they see something about him as a fit for their system that’s gonna work. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RutgersJetFan Posted May 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2022 I tend to think we overrate resume gaps but this one has some 'splainin to do. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Dcronin said: Opportunistic hustler with good hand usage, but average football playing speed, average burst into the pocket and he is stiff. Flip flops from left to right side and can play with his hand in the dirt or standing up. Fights and gives top effort at all times and makes his plays as a direct result of that. The bolded two items are opposites, yet they are being used to describe the same person just one sentence apart. I'm confused. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 55 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: What do Jet fans do? Do they get up every morning and immediately google, "Negative Jet News"? Its a disease. So do you have a problem with what he said or do you have a problem with someone posting something that doesn't say JD is God? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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