AFJF Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Really wish there was more out there on this kid because his physical attributes are outstanding at ' 6'4'', 4.47 with 33'' arms. Having played at IUP. Listed as a WR but even saw some sites say he's a potential TE/H-Back. Unfortunately there's close to nothing in terms of full games to check him out online and he only had a couple of catches with Penn State before being dismissed. Have to like his chances if he's a physical guy at his size. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I'm not holding my breath on this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 41 minutes ago, peebag said: I'm not holding my breath on this one. These guys are interesting and they generally stick around because the staff likes them and they aren't the kind of kids to get instantly poached. It can give them a chance to develop. Kind of what happened with Jeff Smith. His level of development remains to be seen, but he certainly has stuck around for longer than expected. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, AFJF said: Have to like his chances if he's a physical guy at his size. Actually, I don't. There's tons of guys who get their foot in the door (sort of speak) in the NFL b/c of their size/athleticism/speed and go on to get cut. He needs to show he can run crisp routes, learn on the fly, and catch everything in sight. Like so many other UDFA, his chances of making the team are not great. Odds are he will not beat out Mims, Smith or a potential FA vet we don't even know of yet who JD might add as more guys become available. He's competing with bottom of the depth chart guys who are just as talented and know what NFL competition is like, what an NFL offseason is like, and in some cases- what the playbook is like, etc., etc. Noting against the guy and I would love for us to find a gem UDFA, but odds are stacked against him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Now I have to be stressed out that guys like Irvin Charles are not going to make the team. Oh those darn Jets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I think we keep 6 receivers this year. I expect Mims to be one of the Top 5. But I do think we will also keep a larger target so that will be a key battle in training camp. Cager, Charles, have a good shot at making the team if they can flash and offer value on specials. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I also see us keeping 6 WRs: Garrett Wilson Elijah Moore Corey Davis Braxton Berrios Denzel Mims Jeff Smith/Irvin Charles/Calvin Jackson/Rodney Adams/Tarik Black Mims feels just as likely to nail down a spot as he is to be traded/cut, so he's #5 for now. The coaching staff seems to love Jeff Smith, so he's the incumbent the other guys need to beat out. But whoever that is, he's gotta play special teams at a competent level and have a unique skillset that diversifies the group, whether that's Irvin Charles' size or Calvin Jackson's speed as examples. Or this group could be bolstered with a post-training camp cut. Should be fascinating to see unfold. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 "dismissed" from Penn St? That doesn't sound good... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 58 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said: I also see us keeping 6 WRs: Garrett Wilson Elijah Moore Corey Davis Braxton Berrios Denzel Mims Jeff Smith/Irvin Charles/Calvin Jackson/Rodney Adams/Tarik Black Mims feels just as likely to nail down a spot as he is to be traded/cut, so he's #5 for now. The coaching staff seems to love Jeff Smith, so he's the incumbent the other guys need to beat out. But whoever that is, he's gotta play special teams at a competent level and have a unique skillset that diversifies the group, whether that's Irvin Charles' size or Calvin Jackson's speed as examples. Or this group could be bolstered with a post-training camp cut. Should be fascinating to see unfold. As the board's official Jeff Smith proponent/apologist, I have to point out that Smith has stuck around and seemed to slowly move up through Gase/Loggans and Saleh/LaFleur. He was actually signed by Maccagnan in 2019 before the purge started. I figured he'd be dumped coming out of camp last year and was shocked he stuck. He's still only 4 months older than Michael Clemons. FWIW, they seemed to use him some as a gunner last year, but I think he only had one tackle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 College rules are weird. He's 25 already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Agree keep 6. 4 are locks, last 2 TBD. Smith is 5 imo at the moment as he plays special teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 18, 2022 Author Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, PepPep said: Actually, I don't. There's tons of guys who get their foot in the door (sort of speak) in the NFL b/c of their size/athleticism/speed and go on to get cut. He needs to show he can run crisp routes, learn on the fly, and catch everything in sight. Like so many other UDFA, his chances of making the team are not great. Odds are he will not beat out Mims, Smith or a potential FA vet we don't even know of yet who JD might add as more guys become available. He's competing with bottom of the depth chart guys who are just as talented and know what NFL competition is like, what an NFL offseason is like, and in some cases- what the playbook is like, etc., etc. Noting against the guy and I would love for us to find a gem UDFA, but odds are stacked against him. I see what you're saying, but that's why I specified his need to be a physical player (block, win contested balls, etc) because we've seen enough Charone Peake types...great height and 40 but nothing else to offer. Which is why I wish there was more out there on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, thshadow said: "dismissed" from Penn St? That doesn't sound good... Sandusky disciple? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 that 6th receiver could also be the 4th TE, depending on how they look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 2 hours ago, thshadow said: "dismissed" from Penn St? That doesn't sound good... Was he a freshman when Sandusky was still there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I'm glad I found this sh*t, I heard it on Frankie from Flatbush but here's the article. Irvin Charles may be the most talented receiver he was ever around- https://pennstate.rivals.com/news/franklin-irvin-charles-maybe-the-most-talented-wr-i-ve-been-around- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Nixhead said: UNICORN! I thought of savage69 when i saw this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 "Irvin Charles has a very, very bright future," Franklin said. "He is talented, talented, talented – maybe the most talented wide receiver I've ever been around." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 “Charles opted to transfer from Penn State in 2019 following his redshirt sophomore season and landed at IUP with an opportunity to play more of a role in the passing game. However, he didn’t take the field until 2021 due to academic issues and the COVID-19 pandemic. Charles made the most of his lone season suiting up for IUP, catching 39 passes for 791 yards and 12 touchdowns.“ jetswire/USA Today interesting, but there’s more to this story. Maybe academic issues hindered his playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 17 hours ago, thshadow said: "dismissed" from Penn St? That doesn't sound good... We can rule out sex crimes. Wonder what happened? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 What the hell is IUP? It sounds like a birth control device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, OilfieldJet said: What the hell is IUP? It sounds like a birth control device. Indiana University of Pennsylvania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 We know we've seriously upgraded our offense at the skilled positions, when our attitude towards Charles is a shrug of the shoulders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Butterfield said: Indiana University of Pennsylvania Used to the Pennsylvania State Teachers College Conference. Kutztown, East Stroudsburg, Clarion, Shippensburg, California PA, Slippery Rock. It's a D2 conference that puts some players out. Bruce Harper when the Kutztown, Rontez Miles to California. Julian Howsare from Clarion was a plus athlete and college sack guy that was in Jets camp for years. They moved him to FB and he got in a few games in 2016. He's been playing in the CFL, I think he lost in the final last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 57 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Used to the Pennsylvania State Teachers College Conference. Kutztown, East Stroudsburg, Clarion, Shippensburg, California PA, Slippery Rock. It's a D2 conference that puts some players out. Bruce Harper when the Kutztown, Rontez Miles to California. Julian Howsare from Clarion was a plus athlete and college sack guy that was in Jets camp for years. They moved him to FB and he got in a few games in 2016. He's been playing in the CFL, I think he lost in the final last year. Thanks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 20 hours ago, nycdan said: College rules are weird. He's 25 already. 8 days older than Jeff Smith! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 It will be a miracle if this guy or guys like him even make our practice squad. These are not the bad old days. Just say no to 25yo CLF players, please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I'd guess this guy needs to excel on special teams to have a shot. Can he tackle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jets1958 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Irvin Charles (11) attempts to catch a pass with pressure from Justin Layne (39) of Michigan State during the second half of the game at Beaver Stadium on Saturday, Nov. 26, 2016. Penn State defeated Michigan State 45-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snook Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 6 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: 8 days older than Jeff Smith! About 2 months older than Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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