JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 https://nypost.com/2022/05/23/mike-westhoff-pulls-no-punches-about-key-jets-in-new-book/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 No great revelations really except that Rex ran a very disciplined program. I would never had thought that 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I would never had thought that Two AFC championships just because... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetworks Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Based on the quotes in the article, I'd say he did in fact pull punches. Seems very even-handed and almost polite in his criticisms. ?♂️ 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Did Zombieov leave the pages for the last 2 years blank? I mean, he basically mailed in those last 2 years and the ST were terrible. This guy was nothing but a leech. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, GKnight83 said: Did Zombieov leave the pages for the last 2 years blank? I mean, he basically mailed in those last 2 years and the ST were terrible. This guy was nothing but a leech. Generally, I think Westhiff was the only half-competent coach across a long stretch of mediocrity. He is over-rated here because he talked tough. JN loves tough-talking men - and yes, every creepy thing this insinuates is intentional. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 “Rex kept things stirred up with the media. I would read something he said and just shake my head and laugh,” he wrote. “Never did any of his craziness show itself around the team. We had an organized, disciplined program that showed no signs of Rex’s sometimes crazy media antics.” @T0mShane in shambles. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 44 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: “Rex kept things stirred up with the media. I would read something he said and just shake my head and laugh,” he wrote. “Never did any of his craziness show itself around the team. We had an organized, disciplined program that showed no signs of Rex’s sometimes crazy media antics.” @T0mShane in shambles. The only reason he likes Rex is because Rex is the only coach who still picks up the phone when Westhoff calls. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Terry Bradway Westhoff is not a Bradway fan. “Terry Bradway, our general manager, was not my favorite; I thought in many ways he was barely mediocre,” Westhoff writes. ------ I absolutely despise the professional Terry Bradway. Ruined a decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Bronx said: Two AFC championships just because... Yeah, when someone else gives him a ready made team 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Jets special teams were always good when he coached them. The drop off since has been pretty evident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Yeah, when someone else gives him a ready made team yeah when somebody else isnt good enough to take that team to even the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, doitny said: yeah when somebody else isnt good enough to take that team to even the playoffs. I actually blame Farve for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I heard him interviewed on the Turn on the Jets podcast a couple of weeks ago. The guy doesn't hold back, whcih is why he is a good interview but also probably why he never became a head coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Quote “Terry Bradway, our general manager, was not my favorite; I thought in many ways he was barely mediocre,” Westhoff writes. This only endears Westhoff to me even more. What a coach. Wish he would have gotten a crack as HC over Bowles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Matt39 said: Jets special teams were always good when he coached them. The drop off since has been pretty evident. The big issue with specials in recent years has been the lack of quality depth on the roster. The Jets roster has largely been terrible compared to the rest of the league, so the bottom of the roster has also been relatively terrible. I think Boyer does an ok job. He has also made it to his third different Jets coaching staff, so his reputation must be decent. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 8 hours ago, More Cowbell said: No great revelations really except that Rex ran a very disciplined program. I would never had thought that I was looking at the historical win loss records for the Jets yesterday https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/head-to-head.htm Rex's teams were always competitive, even at the end when Idzik was strangling the roster, and even against the Pats this game for example they were 12 point dogs at NE and lost by 3 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201309120nwe.htm Fact is he's the winningest postseason coach in franchise history (playoff wins) and after he left this team went into the wilderness 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, slimjasi said: The big issue with specials in recent years has been the lack of quality depth on the roster. the PK thing was a problem of their own making they didn't have to get rid of Nick Folk or Jason Myers they did it because of either cheapness or getting the team all tankable The jets have gone through like ten place kickers since Myers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 hours ago, David Harris said: Terry Bradway Westhoff is not a Bradway fan. “Terry Bradway, our general manager, was not my favorite; I thought in many ways he was barely mediocre,” Westhoff writes. ------ I absolutely despise the professional Terry Bradway. Ruined a decade. Terry was mediocre and it turns out there's a big drop between mediocre and god-awful terrible (idzik) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, bitonti said: the PK thing was a problem of their own making they didn't have to get rid of Nick Folk or Jason Myers they did it because of either cheapness or getting the team all tankable The jets have gone through like ten place kickers since Myers Agree, but kicker is a pretty isolated problem. The poor choices on kicker have little to do with Boyer. Obviously, they should have just kept Folk and Myers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 5 hours ago, bitonti said: I was looking at the historical win loss records for the Jets yesterday https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/head-to-head.htm Rex's teams were always competitive, even at the end when Idzik was strangling the roster, and even against the Pats this game for example they were 12 point dogs at NE and lost by 3 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201309120nwe.htm Fact is he's the winningest postseason coach in franchise history (playoff wins) and after he left this team went into the wilderness Rex was our last good head coach. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was back in ‘23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 6 hours ago, bitonti said: I was looking at the historical win loss records for the Jets yesterday https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/head-to-head.htm Rex's teams were always competitive, even at the end when Idzik was strangling the roster, and even against the Pats this game for example they were 12 point dogs at NE and lost by 3 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201309120nwe.htm Fact is he's the winningest postseason coach in franchise history (playoff wins) and after he left this team went into the wilderness The Jets entered the wilderness with Ryan as coach starting in 2011. He led them there. They just haven't found their way out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 6 hours ago, bitonti said: the PK thing was a problem of their own making they didn't have to get rid of Nick Folk or Jason Myers they did it because of either cheapness or getting the team all tankable The jets have gone through like ten place kickers since Myers The Myers thing again? It's like a mantra for you. Myers was a mediocre kicker before he came to the Jets and has been a mediocre to bad kicker after the Jets refused to make this bad kicker the highest paid kicker in the NFL after an outlying career year with the Jets. There's been so much that has gone wrong the past 12 years. Not signing Myers doesn't even make the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 9 hours ago, More Cowbell said: I actually blame Farve for that. Nope. Blame Woody for forcing Favre on the 08 Jets. If they keep Pennington and let Favre go somewhere else for his stepping stone move to Minnesota, the Jets make the playoffs in 2008 easily. Takin Pennington away from Miami and putting him back on the Jets guarantees a division title. Then, who knows? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: The Myers thing again? It's like a mantra for you. Myers was a mediocre kicker before he came to the Jets and has been a mediocre to bad kicker after the Jets refused to make this bad kicker the highest paid kicker in the NFL after an outlying career year with the Jets. There's been so much that has gone wrong the past 12 years. Not signing Myers doesn't even make the list. It was still a lousy move. Losing Myers and replacing him with a clown like Kaare Vedvik cost us week 1 the following season. If we win that game the 2019 season probably has a completely different outcome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Nope. Blame Woody for forcing Favre on the 08 Jets. If they keep Pennington and let Favre go somewhere else for his stepping stone move to Minnesota, the Jets make the playoffs in 2008 easily. Takin Pennington away from Miami and putting him back on the Jets guarantees a division title. Then, who knows? And then we would have been one and done with Chad Noodle Arm in the playoffs yay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Nope. Blame Woody for forcing Favre on the 08 Jets. If they keep Pennington and let Favre go somewhere else for his stepping stone move to Minnesota, the Jets make the playoffs in 2008 easily. Takin Pennington away from Miami and putting him back on the Jets guarantees a division title. Then, who knows? I don't think Penny guaranteed a playoff spot in any way but Favre's play down the stretch was pretty poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, More Cowbell said: I don't think Penny guaranteed a playoff spot in any way but Favre's play down the stretch was pretty poor. How can a QB that led Miami to the division title and the playoffs over the Jets not have been good enough to lead the Jets to the playoffs? The reason the Jets missed the playoffs in 2008 was because Favre was putrid down the stretch. Put Pennington on that team and it wins 11+ games easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Dwight Englewood said: It was still a lousy move. Losing Myers and replacing him with a clown like Kaare Vedvik cost us week 1 the following season. If we win that game the 2019 season probably has a completely different outcome Yeah. The Jets would have finished 8-8 and then gone 2-14 in 2020 in any event. It is amazing what some fans latch onto and never let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Dwight Englewood said: And then we would have been one and done with Chad Noodle Arm in the playoffs yay So it was better to miss the playoffs by losing to ...........Miami with Pennington at QB ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Yeah. The Jets would have finished 8-8 and then gone 2-14 in 2020 in any event. It is amazing what some fans latch onto and never let go. The 2022 Jets don't really have a kicker either Greg the leg is most likely washed. Eddy piniero has no proven reliability How about I'll let it go when it stops being an active festering problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 No great revelations really except that Rex ran a very disciplined program. I would never had thought that You read already ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 15 hours ago, bitonti said: Terry was mediocre and it turns out there's a big drop between mediocre and god-awful terrible (idzik) Mac was worse than Idzik. One example, giving up 3 2nds to move up 3 spots. (I'll always hate that horse-face Manning) Idzik was terrible at it but at least Idzik had a plan. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets0712 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Mac was worse than Idzik. One example, giving up 3 2nds to move up 3 spots. (I'll always hate that horse-face Manning) Idzik was terrible at it but at least Idzik had a plan. They both equally suckedSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: How can a QB that led Miami to the division title and the playoffs over the Jets not have been good enough to lead the Jets to the playoffs? The reason the Jets missed the playoffs in 2008 was because Favre was putrid down the stretch. Put Pennington on that team and it wins 11+ games easily. Because I remember how bad Pennington was on the Jets. It was maddening to watch him getting baited into picks trying to make passes he couldn't. He had to go. The problem was Farve was not a good choice but only because he was injured at the end and he pretty much didn't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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