Popular Post Scoop24 Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 Kinda funny they dont think much of Fant at all. Jets fan wanna make him out to be a all pro. 10 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bronx Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 @T0mShane wants justice! 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chirorob Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 I mean, yeah. If you watched, that's what it was. He held the ball too long, shocking for a rookie to do. The Jets had no one who could beat man coverage, shocking if you watched the games. Especially early on, he missed some really easy throws. These are all basic truths, and you hope that he improves on them in his 2nd year. 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 A rookie who played for BYU struggled in year 1. He will be much better in year 2. Get ready Jet fans! Its happening!!!!!!!!!!!! 4 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tfine Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 Heard a stat that Damien Woody pointed out. Zach only played 60 snaps last season with all of his receivers and TEs and RBs healthy at the same time. That’s the equivalent of one game. That’s crazy. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 Ah, I want to know what an ex Jets scout says. Anyone know where I can find that kind of info? 1 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: Ah, I want to know what an ex Jets scout says. Anyone know where I can find that kind of info? Oops, I think I accidentally banned him Boss. My bad! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 This is in line with what every serious analyst has been saying about Wilson this offseason—nice arm, but everything else is yikes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Bronx said: @T0mShane wants justice! Mike White and Josh Johnson got to play with that All-Pro line and stud receiving corps, though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Oops, I think I accidentally banned him Boss. My bad! People better be handing Crusher $20 at the door otherwise they ain't getting in hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 Nothing I read there seems inaccurate or unfair. We'll see if it changes in the Fall. That's the question that matters now. Has Zach materially improved, or not. If he has, we're fine. If he hasn't, we're boned. Simple as that really. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Zach needs to settle down a bit. Arm talent for days but misses the easy ones. Just relax, set your feet, make the easy ones. Then he can do all the off platform magic when he needs to improvise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Sounds like a legend in the making. Cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Zach needs to settle down a bit. Arm talent for days but misses the easy ones. Just relax, set your feet, make the easy ones. Then he can do all the off platform magic when he needs to improvise. Zack can do this. He has all camp to work on being able to Simmah down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, Maxman said: People better be handing Crusher $20 at the door otherwise they ain't getting in hahaha. Nice thought but if you and I are being honest a Popeyes spicy chicken sandwich carries about as much weight as I do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, Warfish said: Nothing I read there seems inaccurate or unfair. We'll see if it changes in the Fall. That's the question that matters now. Has Zach materially improved, or not. If he has, we're fine. If he hasn't, we're boned. Simple as that really. Every off-season, fans are awash in media fluff pieces. Everything is roses. We'll see. Right now, I haven't liked very much from Wilson's rookie season. He'll need to improve a bunch for me to get on the bandwagon. Could it happen? Sure. Do I believe it will happen? No. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, munchmemory said: Every off-season, fans are awash in media fluff pieces. Everything is roses. We'll see. Right now, I haven't liked very much from Wilson's rookie season. He'll need to improve a bunch for me to get on the bandwagon. Could it happen? Sure. Do I believe it will happen? No. Either that or he gets a smoke show of a dime piece on his arm and suddenly you develop an unconditional patience seen mostly in mothers of a newborn baby. Just a hunch. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Zach’s career-to-date summed up in two words: “Whips & Yips” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snook Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 34 minutes ago, T0mShane said: This is in line with what every serious analyst has been saying about Wilson this offseason—nice arm, but everything else is yikes. They also say this 2nd coach adds, "the added weapons should help. He was throwing to some JAGs a yr ago. I'd be surprised if he doesn't look better this year." What's his ceiling? "Too early to tell. They were really bad last year, and he was bad with 'em. That part makes it an unfair evaluation." 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Either that or he gets a smoke show of a dime piece on his arm and suddenly you develop an unconditional patience seen mostly in mothers of a newborn baby. Just a hunch. You know me too well, my old pal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Pretty fair if you ask me. Also consistent to other analyst who are trying to be objective. The optimist in me says: 1) Zach has shown the ability to make the layups. He did that in college and in preseason. If y’all recall, part of the criticism on Zach in preseason was that he only took the easy throws and did not make that wow throws. 2) We have two WRs now that can potentially beat man coverage and are good yac guys. The only surprising thing was the Becton comment. We need him back for sure. Just surprised he said it needs to he at LT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Scoop24 said: Kinda funny they dont think much of Fant at all. Jets fan wanna make him out to be a all pro. I think this is very fair analysis. Pretty much exactly how I currently feel about Zach. This will be an exciting year from the perspective that we as fans will be able to evaluate Zach much more fairly than in the past, and we will be able to determine if Zach is the long term answer at quarterback. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 honestly, I don't want to hear from DEFENSIVE coaches. This is the same stuff most fans have been talking about ad nauseum. I actually don't agree with the 'Zach should throw off-platform more' comment. While he has the arm strength to throw off-balance, he is much more accurate when he sets his feet and steps into his throw. Duh! You give Zach a pocket and the WR does not need a lot of separation, he will squeeze get it in there. And he's not Lamar Jackson. You want him to run selectively- then SLIDE. In fact, I thought early on in the season he bailed out of the pocket way too early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 53 minutes ago, Snook said: They also say this 2nd coach adds, "the added weapons should help. He was throwing to some JAGs a yr ago. I'd be surprised if he doesn't look better this year." What's his ceiling? "Too early to tell. They were really bad last year, and he was bad with 'em. That part makes it an unfair evaluation." Giardi mainly covers the Pats, who humiliated the Jets twice last season. I can see why their defensive coaches wouldn’t be impressed with us on either side of the ball. Mac Jones played the second game wearing a tuxedo against this defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: This is in line with what every serious analyst has been saying about Wilson this offseason—nice arm, but everything else is yikes. Could you remind me what everyone was saying about Josh Allen for nearly 3 years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Could you remind me what everyone was saying about Josh Allen for nearly 3 years? I’m not of the opinion that Zach will forever be bad! I’ve actually been surprised at how pessimistic NFL people are about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: Zach needs to settle down a bit. Arm talent for days but misses the easy ones. Just relax, set your feet, make the easy ones. Then he can do all the off platform magic when he needs to improvise. It’s those Mackey yips isn’t it, that someone spoke of a couple of days back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Wilson can throw the ball. So could Kellen Clemens 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Giardi mainly covers the Pats, who humiliated the Jets twice last season. I can see why their defensive coaches wouldn’t be impressed with us on either side of the ball. Mac Jones played the second game wearing a tuxedo against this defense. Pants suit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 and? no news here. the receivers couldn't get open and the oline was giving wilson too much pressure. and his run game was also sketchy. about the only thing he could do was dump the ball more often to avoid the sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freestater Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’m not of the opinion that Zach will forever be bad! I’ve actually been surprised at how pessimistic NFL people are about him. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, PepPep said: honestly, I don't want to hear from DEFENSIVE coaches. This is the same stuff most fans have been talking about ad nauseum. I actually don't agree with the 'Zach should throw off-platform more' comment. While he has the arm strength to throw off-balance, he is much more accurate when he sets his feet and steps into his throw. Duh! You give Zach a pocket and the WR does not need a lot of separation, he will squeeze get it in there. And he's not Lamar Jackson. You want him to run selectively- then SLIDE. In fact, I thought early on in the season he bailed out of the pocket way too early. I read this I heard Zach should throw off platform more vs. Zach should set his feet. Make up your ******* minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Mike White and Josh Johnson got to play with that All-Pro line and stud receiving corps, though. Why are you always trying to compare a 4th year vet with a rookie? Dude got exposed the more he played while the rookie played better 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 minute ago, BurntDice said: while the rookie played better The rookie didn’t “play better.” The rookie got neutered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Just now, T0mShane said: The rookie didn’t “play better.” The rookie got neutered. Did you watch the bucs game? If you can’t say he played better then you need your eyes or head checked 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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