Popular Post Charlie Brown Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 Hmmm I didn't see this posted and I kind of Love this Video of Zach Wilson... Enjoy.. 8 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Hmmm I didn't see this posted and I kind of Love this Video of Zach Wilson... Enjoy.. First Zach video in a while that was interesting and had something new to say. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 We’ve been through so many highly drafted rookie QBs that get thrown out to start week 1 we all know the drill year 1 : learn how to run an NFL offense year 2 ; learn how to read an NFL defense year 3 : put it all together LaFleur did a better job of getting guys open than Zach did of finding them last year. it’s reasonable to think that will improve this year, and that combined with a better running game, TE and protection should lead to a better offense. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 If you have to have half your fanbase rationalize that "stats are a lie", you know you're not yet in a good place. Fanbases with great QB's don't have to have so many videos claiming "stats are a lie", lol. 7 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 He sucked but... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Seems to me the really great ones just have a sense before the ball is snapped what's going to work and what's not. This way they can limit their options and increase their processing speed. Too many plays Zach went through all his progressions, or got fooled by pre snap looks, which led to holding the ball too long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, peekskill68 said: Seems to me the really great ones just have a sense before the ball is snapped what's going to work and what's not. This way they can limit their options and increase their processing speed. Too many plays Zach went through all his progressions, or got fooled by pre snap looks, which led to holding the ball too long. But lots of the great ones did not develop that skill for a couple of years 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 "Alternate Stats" 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said: But lots of the great ones did not develop that skill for a couple of years 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RoadFan Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 Wilson has immense talent, stayed confident through some bad play, and continued to get better. Works for me… 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Warfish said: If you have to have half your fanbase rationalize that "stats are a lie", you know you're not yet in a good place. Fanbases with great QB's don't have to have so many videos claiming "stats are a lie", lol. Only if you ignore their first seasons. You would do just this if you were talking about the stats of a Josh Allen, L Jackson and countless others. Not too many come out of the gates with great new age stats as rookies Stats without context are usesless 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvj Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 > People post video showing film of Zach's progress over the course of the year for discussion sake > LOL c'mon guys what's the point of discussing that, if he was a hall of fame QB I would have already decided he was LOL 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 15 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Hmmm I didn't see this posted and I kind of Love this Video of Zach Wilson... Enjoy.. This is actually a phenomenal video. Anybody expecting this to be fluff should actually watch it. Rollins dives into the good, the bad, the ugly, gave some context for why he thinks he struggled so mightily in the first half of the year, and the future potential based on his promising second half film. Thank you for posting CB. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Everything is a lie. We don’t even really exist. Zach’s stats are just another glitch in the simulation. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: Only if you ignore their first seasons. You would do just this if you were talking about the stats of a Josh Allen, L Jackson and countless others. Not too many come out of the gates with great new age stats as rookies Stats without context are usesless Stats can be misleading. Definitely not the best way to evaluate. If stats were the end all, Kirk Cousins would be a top 5 QB of all time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said: But lots of the great ones did not develop that skill for a couple of years Indeed. And a ton of guys people thought would be great never developed it. Hopefully we start truly knowing which type Zach is this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 14 hours ago, Warfish said: Indeed. And a ton of guys people thought would be great never developed it. Hopefully we start truly knowing which type Zach is this year. haha. Yeah and we all know it. We had a few weeks avoiding the same circular discussion. We will probably know this season. But the off-season is a long time to wait… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 42 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said: haha. Yeah and we all know it. We had a few weeks avoiding the same circular discussion. We will probably know this season. But the off-season is a long time to wait… Oh I fully expect at least an infinite number of additional debates rehashing what's already been debated a infinite number of times already. It's a bit silly at this point, but what else are we gonna do? 2021 is what is it is. Folks can debate it endlessly, and they do. State lie I hear, lol. But all that matters is how Zach looks in 2022. He can't fix the poop that was 2021, he can only fix 2022 and going forward. And since he's almost assured to get 2022 and 2023 before he'd (potentially) get cut loose, I'm rooting for a huge upswing in his play, with this great looking supporting cast, in 2022. But he can't do anything today. So may as well be patient IMO. Camp, preseason and opening day will be here soon enough. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 If you don’t look at the fake news stats we actually won the Super Bowl last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dwight Englewood said: If you don’t look at the fake news stats we actually won the Super Bowl last season Phil1c, I’m a student of your work. The first 200 posts are usually decent to good and then at around 500 it’s all a cry for help to send you to the gallows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 7:34 PM, Charlie Brown said: Hmmm I didn't see this posted and I kind of Love this Video of Zach Wilson... Enjoy.. This isn't another DoomProphet video is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T0mShane Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 https://www.pff.com/news/draft-early-look-2023-nfl-draft-quarterback-class-bryce-young-cj-stroud 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, T0mShane said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 All you bitches love to make fun of Zach’s babyface but here he is in two years plowing every piece of Hollywood strange he comes across… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Is it too much to ask that we get a season where the film is good and the stats are good. Maybe then we can consistenly put up 24+ points per game and win more than we lose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Lith said: Is it too much to ask that we get a season where the film is good and the stats are good. Maybe then we can consistenly put up 24+ points per game and win more than we lose. Yes, that is too much to ask. Next request please? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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