Sorry, Jets fans, the Seahawks won the Jamal Adams trade

[Bronx]

https://12thmanrising.com/2022/05/28/seahawks-won-jamal-adams/

By Todd Vandeberg 

The Seahawks were roundly blistered for the trade that brought Jamal Adams to Seattle. To be fair, we need to wait until everyone’s career is over, but for now, I’d say Seattle won.

Since the moment the Seahawks inked the deal that brought Jamal Adams to the Emerald City, there has been no shortage of second-guessing the deal. Various pundits have said that the Hawks gave up too much. Others complained that Adams isn’t as good as he was expected to be. Both views are completely wrong.

To recap, the Seahawks sent Bradley McDougald, the ‘Hawks first and third-round picks in 2021, and this year’s first-rounder to the Jets. In exchange, Seattle got Adams and a 2022 fourth-round pick from New York. Yes, that’s a lot on the left side of the ledger.

I loved what McDougald brought to the Hawks, but he wasn’t a three-time Pro Bowler, either. McDougald only got into seven games with the Jets and managed just three games last year between the Jaguars and the Titans. That fits the classic definition of selling high.

Seahawks winning the Jamal Adams trade

Let’s look at what the Jets did with those draft picks they got from the Seahawks. In 2021, New York traded the first and third-round picks to move up to 14 and took guard Alijah Vera-Tucker. He had a fine rookie season, as he allowed just two sacks and was named to the PFWA All-Rookie team. There’s also the facc he ranked 60th in pressures allowed among all guards. Just for reference, the ‘Hawks Damien Lewis ranked 37th.

The Jets used the 2022 first-round pick on Ohio State wide receiver Garrett Wilson. No doubt about it, Wilson looks like an absolute stud. He’s been favorably compared to receivers like Davante Adams, and frankly, that comparison seems solid to me. Of course, you have to actually perform in the league, so we’ll see what happens.

The Seahawks used that Jets fourth-round pick to get perhaps the best steal of the draft, cornerback Coby Bryant. Playing alongside the ridiculously talented Sauce Gardner for the Bearcats, it was Bryant who won the Jim Thorpe Award as the nation’s best defensive back. Just as with Wilson, we’ll see how his potential pans out in games, but the future looks awfully bright in Seattle.

Don’t worry, 12s, I haven’t forgotten about the central figure of the trade. You didn’t hear a lot of complaints about Jamal Adams when he set an all-time NFL record for sacks by a safety in his first year in Seattle. His production dropped off drastically last season, but there were two major factors for this, both completely out of his control. He missed the last five games with a shoulder injury.

Even worse, the Seahawks former DC Ken Norton Jr. apparently decided he didn’t like all those sacks coming from the safety spot. Adams blitz rate dropped from 13 percent in 2021 to just 5 percent last year. While he isn’t the greatest safety when it comes to pass coverage, he’s hardly abysmal.

According to Pro Football Focus, quarterbacks targeting Adams in coverage only managed a 69.9 passer rating. His production dropped in 2022 because Ken Norton Jr. was a poor DC. We know who’s still with the team.

Adams will definitely bounce back to his Pro Bowl level this season. I’d bet your house on it, in fact. Assuming you don’t have a crippling mortgage to pay off, that is. The Hawks strong safety won’t turn 27 until nearly mid-season and has years of great football left. As for the draftees, the jury is still out on Vera-Tucker. Will he be good, or great? Wilson and Bryant could be All-Pros for years, or could wash out. It’s simply too soon to tell. The one thing we do know is that Jamal Adams is an established beast, and he’s locked in for the Seahawks for the next four seasons.

[Bronx]

[Long Island Leprechaun]

A cautionary tale of how being a fan warps your judgement.

[Bronx]

Just now, Long Island Leprechaun said:

A cautionary tale of how being a fan warps your judgement.

[Scott Dierking]

He'd bet your house on it.

[Jetfuel66]

Okayyyyy..... If you say so i guess...... delusional.

[Irish Jet]

He probably should have closed the comments for that one.

[neckdemon]

i just wasted 2 minutes of my life skimming through this. might have been the biggest waste of 2 minutes ever

[GreenFish]

He’s heartbroken and still can't accept we robbed them. 

[Bronx]

Hawks Doom Prophet 

[playtowinthegame]

26 minutes ago, Bronx said:

Hawks Doom Prophet 

Looks like Mike Maccagnan finally shaved.

[slats]

Whatever helps him sleep at night. 

[The Crusher]

34 minutes ago, Bronx said:

Hawks Doom Prophet 

Legion of Boom prophet 

[Bronx]

Just now, The Crusher said:

Legion of Boom prophet 

Perfect!

[Jet Nut]

The 12th man

[Mogglez]

The best part of this article is that, in the early draft of it, he wasn’t even aware that AVT has only played one year.  He deleted a section where he claimed that AVT regressed during the 2022 season, which hasn’t even been played yet:

[Jet Nut]

The comments from fans below this nonsense are great.

Have to say that this is one of the worst analysis articles I think I have ever read. "He regressed in 2022"? He played one year in the NFL (where he was rated as one of the best rookie guards) and has not regressed at all as the 2022 season HAS NOT BEEN PLAYED YET. Putting this article out there after 1 year of play by a rookie and a second that hasn't played one down in the NFL yet as he was just drafted it crazy. Adams has not lived up to his contract in Seattle yet and saying Adams "will definitely bounce back to his Pro Bowl level this season" shows homerism at its best. Adams is a very good in the box safety but average at best in coverage. Let's be honest, the Seahawks have not gotten the value out of that trade yet (it just gets more expensive from here) and may never get full value. HIs cap hit this year is reasonable (though he is still the third highest paid player on the roster), though the numbers beyond here get crazy for a less valuable player who is coming off a mediocre year at best. I can sort of understand your arguments about the coach and changing schemes but there is no guarantee they will not do it again this year, that he stays healthy, etc. As an objective football fan I would put the trade as leans Jets (though that may change based on how well the draft picks do and if Adams can bounce back). He has missed 8 games the last 2 years (25% of all games) and has torn the same shoulder twice. That is not a bet I would make at this time.

Another 

You conveniently left out the fact that Tucker 4 years and Wilson 5 years are on rookie deals. The Seahawks haven't even begun to feel the cap hit for Adams yet. 9 mil this year and 18 in 2023. There's also dead cap hits of 21, 14 and 7 million over the next 3 seasons if they ever wanted to move on from him. Dig deeper.

[Jet9]

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

1 hour ago, Bronx said:

https://12thmanrising.com/2022/05/28/seahawks-won-jamal-adams/

By Todd Vandeberg 

The Seahawks were roundly blistered for the trade that brought Jamal Adams to Seattle. To be fair, we need to wait until everyone’s career is over, but for now, I’d say Seattle won.

Since the moment the Seahawks inked the deal that brought Jamal Adams to the Emerald City, there has been no shortage of second-guessing the deal. Various pundits have said that the Hawks gave up too much. Others complained that Adams isn’t as good as he was expected to be. Both views are completely wrong.

To recap, the Seahawks sent Bradley McDougald, the ‘Hawks first and third-round picks in 2021, and this year’s first-rounder to the Jets. In exchange, Seattle got Adams and a 2022 fourth-round pick from New York. Yes, that’s a lot on the left side of the ledger.

I loved what McDougald brought to the Hawks, but he wasn’t a three-time Pro Bowler, either. McDougald only got into seven games with the Jets and managed just three games last year between the Jaguars and the Titans. That fits the classic definition of selling high.

Seahawks winning the Jamal Adams trade

Let’s look at what the Jets did with those draft picks they got from the Seahawks. In 2021, New York traded the first and third-round picks to move up to 14 and took guard Alijah Vera-Tucker. He had a fine rookie season, as he allowed just two sacks and was named to the PFWA All-Rookie team. There’s also the facc he ranked 60th in pressures allowed among all guards. Just for reference, the ‘Hawks Damien Lewis ranked 37th.

The Jets used the 2022 first-round pick on Ohio State wide receiver Garrett Wilson. No doubt about it, Wilson looks like an absolute stud. He’s been favorably compared to receivers like Davante Adams, and frankly, that comparison seems solid to me. Of course, you have to actually perform in the league, so we’ll see what happens.

The Seahawks used that Jets fourth-round pick to get perhaps the best steal of the draft, cornerback Coby Bryant. Playing alongside the ridiculously talented Sauce Gardner for the Bearcats, it was Bryant who won the Jim Thorpe Award as the nation’s best defensive back. Just as with Wilson, we’ll see how his potential pans out in games, but the future looks awfully bright in Seattle.

Don’t worry, 12s, I haven’t forgotten about the central figure of the trade. You didn’t hear a lot of complaints about Jamal Adams when he set an all-time NFL record for sacks by a safety in his first year in Seattle. His production dropped off drastically last season, but there were two major factors for this, both completely out of his control. He missed the last five games with a shoulder injury.

Even worse, the Seahawks former DC Ken Norton Jr. apparently decided he didn’t like all those sacks coming from the safety spot. Adams blitz rate dropped from 13 percent in 2021 to just 5 percent last year. While he isn’t the greatest safety when it comes to pass coverage, he’s hardly abysmal.

According to Pro Football Focus, quarterbacks targeting Adams in coverage only managed a 69.9 passer rating. His production dropped in 2022 because Ken Norton Jr. was a poor DC. We know who’s still with the team.

Adams will definitely bounce back to his Pro Bowl level this season. I’d bet your house on it, in fact. Assuming you don’t have a crippling mortgage to pay off, that is. The Hawks strong safety won’t turn 27 until nearly mid-season and has years of great football left. As for the draftees, the jury is still out on Vera-Tucker. Will he be good, or great? Wilson and Bryant could be All-Pros for years, or could wash out. It’s simply too soon to tell. The one thing we do know is that Jamal Adams is an established beast, and he’s locked in for the Seahawks for the next four seasons.

[T0mShane]

Does he post under the name “Seahawks Nut” by chance? 

[Fantasy Island]

1 hour ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

A cautionary tale of how being a fan warps your judgement.

like believing this guy will get it:

[Beerfish]

95% of the world thought the Seahawks won the trade the day it was made, only most enlightened jets fans knew it was a huge jets win.

Not only did we get avt and Garret Wilson in essence we also got their best CB DJ Reed whom the hawks loved but couldn't pay because they paid so much for Jamal and Quandre Diggs.

[T0mShane]

4 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said:

like believing this guy will get it:

<Australian accent> “Actually, Zach was aces, mate!”

[the Claw]

I love that this jar of mayonnaise took some time away from his flight simulator to show the world how little he knows about football.

[genot]

I bet this guy texts regularly with DWC. 

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

95% of the world thought the Seahawks won the trade the day it was made, only most enlightened jets fans knew it was a huge jets win.

Not only did we get avt and Garret Wilson in essence we also got their best CB DJ Reed whom the hawks loved but couldn't pay because they paid so much for Jamal and Quandre Diggs.

The Jamal Adams trade was the straw that broke Russell Wilson’s back as it pertained to staying with the Seahawks. They traded for Adams July 2020. Wilson started leaking trade demands over the course of the next few months, culminating in Wilson surreptitiously releasing a list of four teams he’d like to play for in February 2021. 
 

Jamal Adams ruins franchises.

[whodeawhodat]

1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said:

He'd bet your house on it.

EXACTLY my thought!!!

[More Cowbell]

2 hours ago, Bronx said:

https://12thmanrising.com/2022/05/28/seahawks-won-jamal-adams/

By Todd Vandeberg 

The Seahawks were roundly blistered for the trade that brought Jamal Adams to Seattle. To be fair, we need to wait until everyone’s career is over, but for now, I’d say Seattle won.

Since the moment the Seahawks inked the deal that brought Jamal Adams to the Emerald City, there has been no shortage of second-guessing the deal. Various pundits have said that the Hawks gave up too much. Others complained that Adams isn’t as good as he was expected to be. Both views are completely wrong.

To recap, the Seahawks sent Bradley McDougald, the ‘Hawks first and third-round picks in 2021, and this year’s first-rounder to the Jets. In exchange, Seattle got Adams and a 2022 fourth-round pick from New York. Yes, that’s a lot on the left side of the ledger.

I loved what McDougald brought to the Hawks, but he wasn’t a three-time Pro Bowler, either. McDougald only got into seven games with the Jets and managed just three games last year between the Jaguars and the Titans. That fits the classic definition of selling high.

Seahawks winning the Jamal Adams trade

Let’s look at what the Jets did with those draft picks they got from the Seahawks. In 2021, New York traded the first and third-round picks to move up to 14 and took guard Alijah Vera-Tucker. He had a fine rookie season, as he allowed just two sacks and was named to the PFWA All-Rookie team. There’s also the facc he ranked 60th in pressures allowed among all guards. Just for reference, the ‘Hawks Damien Lewis ranked 37th.

The Jets used the 2022 first-round pick on Ohio State wide receiver Garrett Wilson. No doubt about it, Wilson looks like an absolute stud. He’s been favorably compared to receivers like Davante Adams, and frankly, that comparison seems solid to me. Of course, you have to actually perform in the league, so we’ll see what happens.

The Seahawks used that Jets fourth-round pick to get perhaps the best steal of the draft, cornerback Coby Bryant. Playing alongside the ridiculously talented Sauce Gardner for the Bearcats, it was Bryant who won the Jim Thorpe Award as the nation’s best defensive back. Just as with Wilson, we’ll see how his potential pans out in games, but the future looks awfully bright in Seattle.

Don’t worry, 12s, I haven’t forgotten about the central figure of the trade. You didn’t hear a lot of complaints about Jamal Adams when he set an all-time NFL record for sacks by a safety in his first year in Seattle. His production dropped off drastically last season, but there were two major factors for this, both completely out of his control. He missed the last five games with a shoulder injury.

Even worse, the Seahawks former DC Ken Norton Jr. apparently decided he didn’t like all those sacks coming from the safety spot. Adams blitz rate dropped from 13 percent in 2021 to just 5 percent last year. While he isn’t the greatest safety when it comes to pass coverage, he’s hardly abysmal.

According to Pro Football Focus, quarterbacks targeting Adams in coverage only managed a 69.9 passer rating. His production dropped in 2022 because Ken Norton Jr. was a poor DC. We know who’s still with the team.

Adams will definitely bounce back to his Pro Bowl level this season. I’d bet your house on it, in fact. Assuming you don’t have a crippling mortgage to pay off, that is. The Hawks strong safety won’t turn 27 until nearly mid-season and has years of great football left. As for the draftees, the jury is still out on Vera-Tucker. Will he be good, or great? Wilson and Bryant could be All-Pros for years, or could wash out. It’s simply too soon to tell. The one thing we do know is that Jamal Adams is an established beast, and he’s locked in for the Seahawks for the next four seasons.

[More Cowbell]

We have found the Seattle version of Joe W Namath 

[jetstream23]

 

[jetstream23]

#BoxSafety

 

[jetstream23]

2 hours ago, Bronx said:

Adams will definitely bounce back to his Pro Bowl level this season. I’d bet your house on it, in fact.

He’d bet YOUR house on it.

Not his.

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

Seahawks get

1. Jamal Adams.  PFF grade 64 down to 60 the past 2 years after signing a $70M deal last year; $17.5M per year, $38M guaranteed.  Graded in high 80s the last 2 years with Jets

2. 4th rounder this year

 

Jets get (excl 1 year rental McDougald)

1. AVT (also cost Jets 3rd rounder).  Rookie starter w/ PFF grade 67 expected to climb

2. Garrett Wilson (#1 WR on most boards)

3. Cap space to sign replacement SS Jordan Whitehead to 2 year, $14.5M deal.  2021 PFF grade 75.  After allocating $9M per year to AVT and Wilson above

[The Crusher]

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Mogglez said:

The best part of this article is that, in the early draft of it, he wasn’t even aware that AVT has only played one year.  He deleted a section where he claimed that AVT regressed during the 2022 season, which hasn’t even been played yet:

Haha, thought I lost mind because couldn’t find it. So good!