Saleh Gives OTA Updates; Still No Becton, Mims Is Doing Better

[freestater]

9 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Who cares if becton is there for this voluntary nonsense.  He will be there when its mandatory.  Get over it jet fans.

Great news that Mimsy looks good.  He will be a huge boost to this receiving core if he can break out.

Becton is a bust. Your buddy should have drafted Wirfs. 

[Joe W. Namath]

1 hour ago, freestater said:

Becton is a bust. Your buddy should have drafted Wirfs. 

We were looking for a LT not a RT.  If Becton gets moved to RT this year, then we can compare the 2.  Trying to compare a LT to a RT is silly.

[CSNY]

Did Antonio Cromarti miss this much time after the birth of his children?

[freestater]

8 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

We were looking for a LT not a RT.  If Becton gets moved to RT this year, then we can compare the 2.  Trying to compare a LT to a RT is silly.

We needed both. There may be a few on this site willing to be gaslighted into thinking differently. 

I'm not one of them. 

[Dunnie]

I get you Matt and yes, you can't bash a player, but come on, he is not the only guy who's ever had a baby. (I am assuming and hopeful that the baby is healthy). This is just not a good sign, in 2 season's Becton has played 13 games.........I might be in the minority but I am becoming more and more pissed off with this guy. 

Not pissed at him ... just shaking my head at his unmatched inability to understand optics. It's mindblowing how little intelligence is being housed in that mammoth body.

A better look ... spends a week w the kid and wife ... packs up and let's others proclaim the amount of sacrifice he is willing to give on a mission to getting better .. and truly dominate.

[slats]

47 minutes ago, freestater said:

We needed both. There may be a few on this site willing to be gaslighted into thinking differently. 

I'm not one of them. 

I’d’ve taken Wirfs, too, and said so at the time. Fant at LT and Wirfs at RT would’ve been very good. But JD chose to swing for the fences with the higher upside player at the more premium position. I can’t criticize that strategy too much. In fact, I like the fact that he didn’t play it safe with his first ever draft pick. If it doesn’t work out, that sucks, but I can’t fault the logic of the pick. 

[freestater]

35 minutes ago, slats said:

I’d’ve taken Wirfs, too, and said so at the time. Fant at LT and Wirfs at RT would’ve been very good. But JD chose to swing for the fences with the higher upside player at the more premium position. I can’t criticize that strategy too much. In fact, I like the fact that he didn’t play it safe with his first ever draft pick. If it doesn’t work out, that sucks, but I can’t fault the logic of the pick. 

I disagree on the upside. We're talking about a prospect who broke the bench press record at an o-line factory, Iowa. Wirfs was the pick that looked like the solid contributor, blue chip prospect who also had great measurables, great production, and the benefit of attending a school renown for developing linemen.The Becton pick is similar to the "swing for the fences" pick of Quinton Coples. 

[slats]

11 minutes ago, freestater said:

I disagree on the upside. We're talking about a prospect who broke the bench press record at an o-line factory, Iowa. Wirfs was the pick that looked like the solid contributor, blue chip prospect who also had great measurables, great production, and the benefit of attending a school renown for developing linemen.The Becton pick is similar to the "swing for the fences" pick of Quinton Coples. 

Then we disagree, that’s fine. 

[freestater]

2 minutes ago, slats said:

Then we disagree, that’s fine. 

This post violates community standards around here. And from a mod, of all people. Sheesh.

[freestater]

4 minutes ago, slats said:

Then we disagree, that’s fine. 

I will say this, the best part of JD is; that he does seem to be improving. I know you can't judge draft picks so freakin early, but last year and this one have gotten better and better. I'm honestly more confident in Douglas than I am in Saleh, but hopefully both can do their jobs competently. 

[Jet_Engine1]

When Becton finally shows up, spends half of training camp on the sidelines or the training room, and then plays a total of 6 games thus coming season,  the amount of people who will say stuff like "We couldn't predict another unfortunate injury....we never saw this coming " will be astounding. 

 

Dude is LAY-ZEE. Good for him that he goes to the gym. So does ******* everybody nowadays. 

 

Go to work, you fat, stupid ****. 

[slats]

10 minutes ago, freestater said:

I will say this, the best part of JD is; that he does seem to be improving. I know you can't judge draft picks so freakin early, but last year and this one have gotten better and better. I'm honestly more confident in Douglas than I am in Saleh, but hopefully both can do their jobs competently. 

I also believe that Joe Douglas learned some lessons as a rookie GM and has gotten better at the job overall, but particularly in the draft where the last two look like building blocks for a successful team. Hoping Saleh takes a similar step forward with a year of head coaching under his belt. I love that these guys appear to be on the same page. That’s important. Even incompetents like Mangini and Tannenbaum managed to hit on a couple guys simply by working together. 

[Matt39]

39 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

When Becton finally shows up, spends half of training camp on the sidelines or the training room, and then plays a total of 6 games thus coming season,  the amount of people who will say stuff like "We couldn't predict another unfortunate injury....we never saw this coming " will be astounding. 

 

Dude is LAY-ZEE. Good for him that he goes to the gym. So does ******* everybody nowadays. 

 

Go to work, you fat, stupid ****. 

I don’t think he’s on the active roster come August or so. It seems it would be best for both him and the Jets at this point anyways. Something is way off.   He’s going to be an HR liability too eventually.

[Fantasy Island]

2 hours ago, Dunnie said:

Not pissed at him ... just shaking my head at his unmatched inability to understand optics. It's mindblowing how little intelligence is being housed in that mammoth body.

A better look ... spends a week w the kid and wife ... packs up and let's others proclaim the amount of sacrifice he is willing to give on a mission to getting better .. and truly dominate.




 

[DonCorleone]

3 hours ago, Dunnie said:

Not pissed at him ... just shaking my head at his unmatched inability to understand optics. It's mindblowing how little intelligence is being housed in that mammoth body.

A better look ... spends a week w the kid and wife ... packs up and let's others proclaim the amount of sacrifice he is willing to give on a mission to getting better .. and truly dominate.




 

I simply can't argue your point. Absolutely correct. 

[DonCorleone]

7 hours ago, CSNY said:

Did Antonio Cromarti miss this much time after the birth of his children?

He wouldn't have had time to play a single down.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Lost in all of this is the fact that actual football isn't like chess.  It isn't the sort of thing you can really "practice" or simulate on your own.

Even these controlled OTA practices, team drills, 7 v 7 or 11 v 11 or whatever, aren't the real thing, but they are certainly closer to it than a big fat guy on his own in a gym somewhere doing power lifts.

And regardless of whether he is staying on the left or moving to the right, you would think he'd want to get on the same page in terms of playbook, communication, non-verbal cues, whatever, etc. with his new partners on the line as soon as possible.

[MichaelScott]

On 6/2/2022 at 3:59 AM, bitonti said:

Everyone's focused on Becton meanwhile they did not pay George Fant and he's also sitting out of the Ota 

And this is because Woody doesn't have the money or won't spend the money, right? 

[bitonti]

45 minutes ago, MichaelScott said:

And this is because Woody doesn't have the money or won't spend the money, right? 

It all comes down to how the NFL is structured

Winning and losing pays the same, and Woody figured that out about the time the playoff drought started 

if the NFL had relegation, they probably would have more long money committed to players like Fant. Every coach wouldn't be a first time HC. Because they'd be fighting for their financial lives year in and year out

instead, it's just one big pie eating contest and the Jets don't have to be good or win games to be financially viable. They can just sell the endless rebuild and cash checks. 

i'm not going to blame Woody, or any billionaire for taking advantage of that. The scorpion and the frog and all. 

[MichaelScott]

35 minutes ago, bitonti said:

It all comes down to how the NFL is structured

Winning and losing pays the same, and Woody figured that out about the time the playoff drought started 

if the NFL had relegation, they probably would have more long money committed to players like Fant. Every coach wouldn't be a first time HC. Because they'd be fighting for their financial lives year in and year out

instead, it's just one big pie eating contest and the Jets don't have to be good or win games to be financially viable. They can just sell the endless rebuild and cash checks. 

i'm not going to blame Woody, or any billionaire for taking advantage of that. The scorpion and the frog and all. 

Soooo... You're saying no financial benefit whatsoever to an owner when their team is relevant/winning? 

[bitonti]

33 minutes ago, MichaelScott said:

Soooo... You're saying no financial benefit whatsoever to an owner when their team is relevant/winning? 

not really, no

the jets are the 6th most valuable franchise in the NFL and 30th in power rankings

how do they square that circle? 

because the TV is split equally etc. 

All a playoff team gets is tickets/parking from the extra home games, if there are any home games

that's not really offsetting the roster spend that it takes to have a playoff caliber roster... moves like firing bad coaches early, hiring good coaches (who have done the job before) etc. 

the owners who commit to win do so because they want to win not because it makes them more money than losing 

we know all this because the Green Bay Packers have open books. The league doesn't pay the Jets for beating the Pats it pays them for the attempt 

 

[Warfish]

On 6/2/2022 at 8:00 AM, Matt39 said:

Can’t publicly bash a player for not being at voluntaries even if it’s the guy who probably needs to be there the most. Once minicamp starts and he no shows then I’m assuming the excuses end. 

This.  The CBA is a thing.

At most a Coach can (and many do) say "We want all our guys here" and leave it at that, which is usually clear enough to most folks as to what is meant.

On a separate point, glad to hear Mims may be impressing early.  While it's VERY easy to write him off, him actually sticking is definitely a good thing for us if it happens.  We should all be rooting for that.

[GreenFish]

On 6/2/2022 at 9:20 AM, BornJetsFan1983 said:

I recently had my daughter and I can tell you I don't blame him one bit, being at otas is like you haveb0 contact at home right? Meaning if he went he wouldn't be seeing his daughter at all right? Ok went back to work right after my daughter was born but I did have evening with her and weekends. I don't blame him for taking the time at all. I don't think you necessarily need it, but why not ....it's OTAs

Yup. I'd be home with my kid as well. And it's not just about spending time with your child, it's also about giving your wife a break. I remember my wife woke up in the middle of the night thinking our son was crying. He was happily asleep. I was like, I need to do more. Those first few weeks are crazy. The wifey needs help. I don't know if she had a c section but that's another reason to be around.

[BornJetsFan1983]

2 hours ago, GreenFish said:

Yup. I'd be home with my kid as well. And it's not just about spending time with your child, it's also about giving your wife a break. I remember my wife woke up in the middle of the night thinking our son was crying. He was happily asleep. I was like, I need to do more. Those first few weeks are crazy. The wifey needs help. I don't know if she had a c section but that's another reason to be around.

Plus it's ota's and he is in great shape..I do not see any issue missing non mandatory time.. big ticket will be great this year

[RutgersJetFan]

2 hours ago, GreenFish said:

Yup. I'd be home with my kid as well. And it's not just about spending time with your child, it's also about giving your wife a break. I remember my wife woke up in the middle of the night thinking our son was crying. He was happily asleep. I was like, I need to do more. Those first few weeks are crazy. The wifey needs help. I don't know if she had a c section but that's another reason to be around.

It's been a bit more wild the last two years as well. Things like a huge shortage of lactation specialists and timing of positive testing rates...etc. You really have to navigate some tricky waters and hopefully get some luck. Complicated time to have a kid. 

[The Crusher]

2 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

It's been a bit more wild the last two years as well. Things like a huge shortage of lactation specialists and timing of positive testing rates...etc. You really have to navigate some tricky waters and hopefully get some luck. Complicated time to have a kid. 

I actually have a funny lactation specialist story. My daughter kept telling us how fortunate she was during her entire pregnancy that a very good friend of hers is a lactation specialist and trust, availability blah blah. My grandson showed up 11 months ago, dude latched on like he was ringing a bell. Like from day one. Never had to call her. 

[Beerfish]

Being a Jet, fan over the years I've slept like a baby,   I wake up every two hours crying.

[RutgersJetFan]

42 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

I actually have a funny lactation specialist story. My daughter kept telling us how fortunate she was during her entire pregnancy that a very good friend of hers is a lactation specialist and trust, availability blah blah. My grandson showed up 11 months ago, dude latched on like he was ringing a bell. Like from day one. Never had to call her. 

Color me shocked that a male descendent of yours emerged into the world knowing how to eat immediately. Shocked I tell you. 

[Embrace the Suck]

On 6/3/2022 at 5:17 AM, CSNY said:

Did Antonio Cromarti miss this much time after the birth of his children?

Probably not; even when you combine them all.