Popular Post KRL Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 Hill is a dynamic WR and one of the top playmakers in the game. But this nonsense he's putting out since moving to MIA is ridiculous. When exactly was he not used properly in KC?: https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3116406/tyreek-hill https://www.nfl.com/news/wr-tyreek-hill-on-kansas-city-exit-the-only-thing-i-care-about-is-respect-within The talk in the two and a half months since the Kansas City Chiefs shipped Tyreek Hill's talents to South Beach has revolved around Hill's fit in the Miami Dolphins offense and Kansas City's approach to replacing the game-breaking wide receiver. On the debut episode of his It Needed To Be Said podcast, Hill was happy to circle back and discuss what led to the dissolution of his relationship with the Chiefs in the first place. "If teams are gonna give us favorable one-on-one matches against their best corner, I don't see why teams don't utilize their best receiver," Hill said, per Pro Football Talk. "And that's where probably like me and the Chiefs fell apart right there. When I'm like, 'Yo, I don't mean to talk or be a diva in some situation, but can I see the pill some time, please? Just give me the ball, please.' " Hill's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, who appeared on the podcast, reiterated the feeling that Hill's talents were occasionally wasted by the Chiefs in 2021. "There was a lot of times during the year that we felt that Tyreek was underutilized and wasn't fully appreciated, and that [the Chiefs] really weren't taking full advantage of all of his ability and talent," Rosenhaus said. "But Tyreek is a trooper. He never made a peep about it. He was extremely professional." There's certainly no shortage of No. 1 wide receivers throughout NFL history who have perceived themselves as target-starved, but does Hill's claim have merit? Hill had five games with five or fewer targets in 2021, compared with only one such game in 2020. However, he had 10 games with double-digit targets (three more than in 2020), surpassed 100 receptions for the first time in his career and recorded a career-high 159 targets (24 more than in 2020). In fact, he finished the 2021 campaign with the seventh-most targets in the NFL. Although Hill had more offensive opportunities last year than ever before, those looks were much different than in previous seasons. Having earned the nickname "Cheetah," Hill has long been the league's foremost threat at blowing the top off an opposing defense. But last year, he recorded his shortest average route depth (12.6 yards) since 2017 and had his lowest air yards per target (10.4) since his rookie season, according to Next Gen Stats. His yards per reception dropped to 11.2 -- more than four yards off his average between 2017-2020. The diminished big-play capacity was a byproduct of defenses catering to the Chiefs' deep-passing offense by playing two-high safeties and forcing quarterback Patrick Mahomes to operate underneath. In the short term, the approach gave the Chiefs fits. Given the club's offseason moves, the long-term effect may have been a reprioritization of its offensive attack, which left Kansas City unwilling to meet Hill's contract wishes. "I tried my best," Hill said. "I talked to the big man, (head coach) Andy Reid. I talked to the quarterback. I'm like, 'Look, can we make something happen? Can we make something happen? Can the guaranteed money make sense to me? Can it make sense to my family, please?' " In the end, the money made the most sense elsewhere. The Chiefs traded Hill for five draft picks and opted to bolster their WR corps with JuJu Smith-Schuster and Marquez Valdes-Scantling. Hill received a four-year extension from Miami worth $120 million with $72.2 million guaranteed and what he perceives as a greater degree of respect. "I don't care about notoriety, though," Hill said. "I don't care about none of that. The only thing I care about is respect within the building. Notoriety outside the building, I don't care about none of that, man. Because none of that ain't gonna win us games on Sunday. … This is what I want inside the building. I want the head coach to know that on Sundays, that defenses fear Tyreek Hill. That's what I want the head coach to know. And the head coach do know that, though. He know that without the Cheetah on the field, he know that, 'Hey, Pat you're gonna have a long day today.'" Both sides have expressed early optimism in charting new territory absent the other for the first time in seven years. Only time will tell whose grass springs up greener. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvispookie Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Yeah, but can he gawd da freak? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jethead Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 Fits right in Miami. The more he's a "me" guy, the less effective he will be. Keep it up. Good for the Jets. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Copernicus Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 I said it then and I will say it now: Thank god we didnt trade for this player. Toxic 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CSNY Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 So Tyreek is complaining about the way Andy Ried a Hall of Fame coach utilized him when according to the article he was targeted the most times is his career and then goes on to say he doesn’t want to be known as a diva? Sounds kinda divaish to me Glad we didn’t sign this guy 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jet Nut Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, KRL said: Having earned the nickname "Cheetah," Hill has long been the league's foremost threat at blowing the top off an opposing defense. But last year, he recorded his shortest average route depth (12.6 yards) since 2017 and had his lowest air yards per target (10.4) since his rookie season, according to Next Gen Stats. His yards per reception dropped to 11.2 -- more than four yards off his average between 2017-2020. Say hello to Tua Tagovailoa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, KRL said: "I don't care about notoriety, though," Hill said. "I don't care about none of that. The only thing I care about is respect within the building. Notoriety outside the building, I don't care about none of that, man. Because none of that ain't gonna win us games on Sunday. … This is what I want inside the building. I want the head coach to know that on Sundays, that defenses fear Tyreek Hill. That's what I want the head coach to know. And the head coach do know that, though. He know that without the Cheetah on the field, he know that, 'Hey, Pat you're gonna have a long day today.'" LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Should be a fun time in Miami for a relatively unknown rookie head coach that has a deep threat diva wide receiver and a QB that has issues throwing the ball deep down the field 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AFJF Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 If you paid me $30 million dollars a year, I'd say Brooks Bollinger is a better QB than Tom Brady with as straight a face as you've ever seen. 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, AFJF said: If you paid me $30 million dollars a year, I'd say Brooks Bollinger is a better QB than Tom Brady with as straight a face as you've ever seen. AF. Come on now Brooks Bollinger that’s an easy one to keep a straight face. Try doing it with Christian Hackenburg for 30 million 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 You know what? Maybe not getting Hill wasn't such a bad thing. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 Tyreek Hill is a PoS girlfriend/wife/child abuser. I would’ve tried to put that aside if the Jets had landed him, but I doubt I really could’ve. Similar to Michael Vick, who can still go **** himself. I’m glad the Jets helped to raise the price of what Miami had to pay to get him, and KC is probably thrilled to be done with him, too. I can’t imagine this guy’s career not ending in some sort of dramatic implosion. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/07/19/chiefs-tyreek-hill-domestic-assault-child-abuse-timeline-no-suspension-decision 6 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Stop beating children? Yes, I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 The more you see Tyreek Hill in Miami, the more it feels like it will end pretty badly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Jets front office and CS can't even seem to manage tame situations like Becton's no show. Tyreek Hill would devour these guys... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 He's clearly a great WR. But like a few other great WR's, he may also be an egomaniacal headcase. I hope he becomes a cancer in Miami and destroys their locker room, tbqh. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I was against the trade for Hill. It had nothing to do with the price, cap hit, or Hill as a player. For the record I'm against the acquisition of Deebo and DK and those have everything to do with the cost and cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 The part where he claims Tua is more accurate than Mahomes, despite all facts to the contrary, is my favorite part. Way to throw shade at the guy who made you look so good you got that massive contract and never said a bad word about you. It's a shame MIA doesn't play KC this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, nycdan said: The part where he claims Tua is more accurate than Mahomes, despite all facts to the contrary, is my favorite part. Way to throw shade at the guy who made you look so good you got that massive contract and never said a bad word about you. It's a shame MIA doesn't play KC this year. Meh. Calling someone more accurate isn't calling them better. Hang a tire from a tree and Tua would probably throw through it more times than Pat from 15 yards. It's the field vision that makes Pat special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 This guy is one of the top 3 WR in the NFL and understood Andy Ried's system. Either Mims is dumb as a stomp or Lafleur's O is really compicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 "Tyreek Hill Needs To Stop ..." Ummm, no, he should continue. I'm loving this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 It's fine to speak out in support of your QB but just plain silly to put down Mahomes at the same time. The guy helped make him a hugely paid star. How about a little respect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BigRy56 said: The more you see Tyreek Hill in Miami, the more it feels like it will end pretty badly Tyreek in Miami with Tua reminds me of Odell in Cleveland with Baker. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 He always played second fiddle behind Travis Kelce. I don't blame KC one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 My prediction is before the end of September Hill will have one of the following "blow ups" with Tua: - He'll say something in the media - He'll have a verbal altercation on the sideline - He'll throw his helmet - Or after running a deep route he'll throw up his hands in disgust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 The only way to shut this guy up is on the field...knock the living snot out of him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 A true superstar WR, IMO. Never seen someone with that kind of speed. It's legitimately hilarious that he was upset running shorter routes and catching a lot of underneath stuff last year though. Playing with Tua isn't going to restore his deep threat, field stretching ability. His entire role, despite not being defended the same way, will be shorter stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold's Forehead Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Biggs said: This guy is one of the top 3 WR in the NFL and understood Andy Ried's system. Either Mims is dumb as a stomp or Lafleur's O is really compicated. Yeah but to be fair, Mims has to learn like every position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 4 hours ago, KRL said: Hill is a dynamic WR and one of the top playmakers in the game. But this nonsense he's putting out since moving to MIA is ridiculous. When exactly was he not used properly in KC?: https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3116406/tyreek-hill https://www.nfl.com/news/wr-tyreek-hill-on-kansas-city-exit-the-only-thing-i-care-about-is-respect-within The talk in the two and a half months since the Kansas City Chiefs shipped Tyreek Hill's talents to South Beach has revolved around Hill's fit in the Miami Dolphins offense and Kansas City's approach to replacing the game-breaking wide receiver. On the debut episode of his It Needed To Be Said podcast, Hill was happy to circle back and discuss what led to the dissolution of his relationship with the Chiefs in the first place. "If teams are gonna give us favorable one-on-one matches against their best corner, I don't see why teams don't utilize their best receiver," Hill said, per Pro Football Talk. "And that's where probably like me and the Chiefs fell apart right there. When I'm like, 'Yo, I don't mean to talk or be a diva in some situation, but can I see the pill some time, please? Just give me the ball, please.' " Hill's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, who appeared on the podcast, reiterated the feeling that Hill's talents were occasionally wasted by the Chiefs in 2021. "There was a lot of times during the year that we felt that Tyreek was underutilized and wasn't fully appreciated, and that [the Chiefs] really weren't taking full advantage of all of his ability and talent," Rosenhaus said. "But Tyreek is a trooper. He never made a peep about it. He was extremely professional." There's certainly no shortage of No. 1 wide receivers throughout NFL history who have perceived themselves as target-starved, but does Hill's claim have merit? Hill had five games with five or fewer targets in 2021, compared with only one such game in 2020. However, he had 10 games with double-digit targets (three more than in 2020), surpassed 100 receptions for the first time in his career and recorded a career-high 159 targets (24 more than in 2020). In fact, he finished the 2021 campaign with the seventh-most targets in the NFL. Although Hill had more offensive opportunities last year than ever before, those looks were much different than in previous seasons. Having earned the nickname "Cheetah," Hill has long been the league's foremost threat at blowing the top off an opposing defense. But last year, he recorded his shortest average route depth (12.6 yards) since 2017 and had his lowest air yards per target (10.4) since his rookie season, according to Next Gen Stats. His yards per reception dropped to 11.2 -- more than four yards off his average between 2017-2020. The diminished big-play capacity was a byproduct of defenses catering to the Chiefs' deep-passing offense by playing two-high safeties and forcing quarterback Patrick Mahomes to operate underneath. In the short term, the approach gave the Chiefs fits. Given the club's offseason moves, the long-term effect may have been a reprioritization of its offensive attack, which left Kansas City unwilling to meet Hill's contract wishes. "I tried my best," Hill said. "I talked to the big man, (head coach) Andy Reid. I talked to the quarterback. I'm like, 'Look, can we make something happen? Can we make something happen? Can the guaranteed money make sense to me? Can it make sense to my family, please?' " In the end, the money made the most sense elsewhere. The Chiefs traded Hill for five draft picks and opted to bolster their WR corps with JuJu Smith-Schuster and Marquez Valdes-Scantling. Hill received a four-year extension from Miami worth $120 million with $72.2 million guaranteed and what he perceives as a greater degree of respect. "I don't care about notoriety, though," Hill said. "I don't care about none of that. The only thing I care about is respect within the building. Notoriety outside the building, I don't care about none of that, man. Because none of that ain't gonna win us games on Sunday. … This is what I want inside the building. I want the head coach to know that on Sundays, that defenses fear Tyreek Hill. That's what I want the head coach to know. And the head coach do know that, though. He know that without the Cheetah on the field, he know that, 'Hey, Pat you're gonna have a long day today.'" Both sides have expressed early optimism in charting new territory absent the other for the first time in seven years. Only time will tell whose grass springs up greener. Selective memory. Teams learned that playing man under 2 deep neutralized Hill and forced Mahomes to check it down more and try and play small ball. Hill's biggest strength is getting behind defenses deep and contrary to that one throw in the college championship the deep ball is not Tua's strength at the NFL level where corners and safeties can track down his floaters. I suspect the Chiefs got away from Hill at the right time and glad we did not trade for him. I actually like Sauce, Wilson, JJ and Breece better than Hill, Sauce and JJ which is what we would have had with the trade. And yes part of that is because Hill is a scumbag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 hours ago, CSNY said: So Tyreek is complaining about the way Andy Ried a Hall of Fame coach utilized him when according to the article he was targeted the most times is his career and then goes on to say he doesn’t want to be known as a diva? Sounds kinda divaish to me Glad we didn’t sign this guy While winning a Superbowl, if I'm not mistaken. Obviously those team accomplishments mean little to him judging by where he left and the destination he selected for more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I hope this Miami Tyreek situation implodes in spectacular fashion! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I hope this Miami Tyreek situation implodes in spectacular fashion! Hopefully he'll leave the field shirtless during a Jets home game 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 In all honesty Miami has ridiculous speed all over the field with Waddle, Tyreek, and Raheem Mostert. They could be tough to slow down, hopefully Tua destroys the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 no doubt hill made the game interesting to watch. the guy was great at getting open and then doing something once he had the ball. his criticism of the chiefs is a little off. if they used him less it's maybe because he wasn't as open as usual or another guy was getting open. and they didn't re-sign him because they just can't have 30% of the salary cap going to two players. it just doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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