Legend Killa7 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Lith said: Jeff Smith....again???? Listen, I know it's OTAs and mini camp, etc. we can't get too high, can't get too low, blah blah blah. but something I just do not see people mentioning on this board is that the Jets are NOT running the ball- EVER - in these practices. HUGE advantage for the defense. and then you see that Wilson is throwing TDs to the immortal Jeff Smith? call me crazy, but that is just awesome! I'm still scarred from Darnold, as I thought he was "the one", so I am not going crazy with this kid, but I love seeing stuff like this. gives this old Jets fan hope!! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: Peyton Manning had a great rookie year. He just threw a lot of interceptions. His team was 3-13 and he didn't just throw "a lot of ints..." it's still a top 15 most INT's in a season of all time. I love Peyton - on of my favorite non-Jets of all time. But he was bad his rookie year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Biggs said: Mac Jones has a Masters degree and graduated with a 4.0 GPA. You failed to mention Zach couldn't impliment the entire playbook in real time. Mac Jones actually won the Job in NE. My Cat go a 4.0 in modern day academia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 minute ago, GreenFish said: You can only compete against those on the roster. Zach Wilson beat out Mike White and Josh Johnson Mac Jones beat out Brian Hoyer Hoyer and Johnson are about equal. He didn't beat them out. He was handed the job. Cam was cut after Jones won the starting job. On the Pats first depth chart Cam was 1, Mac 2, Hoyer and Stidham were 3 and 4. Jets opening depth chart was Wilson 1 White 2. That's per the teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted June 15, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2022 Sounds like we will have a new beat writer for the NYDN by the time camp starts. I liked DJ, once you got past his Dolphin fandom and "out of bounce" comments, I thought he was knowledgeable, shared some good insights and provided more info during practices than most of our writers. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, GreenFish said: You can only compete against those on the roster. Zach Wilson beat out Mike White and Josh Johnson So effectively no actual competition was on the roster, and no actual competition happened. Thanks. As to your Hoyer = Johnson comment, I'll remind you that Hoyer has 39 career starts as an NFL QB. Johnson and White combined had 8. I think you'd have trouble finding many people that consider Johnson/White the equivalent or Hoyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lith said: Sounds like we will have a new beat writer for the NYDN by the time camp starts. I liked DJ, once you got past his Dolphin fandom and "out of bounce" comments, I thought he was knowledgeable, shared some good insights and provided more info during practices than most of our writers. I agree. I liked him a lot. Fair, funny. Much better than anything the DN has put out there in a while. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 I don't like having Bryce Hall and Breece Hall on this roster. sh*t's confusing every time I read one of them did something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I'm pretty sure he did. He sucked. He was third in yards, 1st in attempts, 19th in completion percentage, 5th in TD's, 5th in yards per game. He had a ton of INT's. He ranked 28th in INT percentage and 1st in INT's. Zach. 30th in yards, 28th in attempts, 33 in completion percentage, 32nd in TD's, 31st in yards per game, 27th in INT percentage. Peyton was asked as a rookie to carry his team and was in the game in ever statistically catagory excetp INT's. Zach was asked to do nothing and did nothing. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, sec143dmf said: And your point? Being out of shape definitely will affect your speed.. He didn't say he was out of shape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mogglez said: That’s a fair point. I’d just like to add that this step doesn’t usually come until the phase of TC when there is the smallest bit of game-planning (the tune-up pre-season game) involved. At least that’s how it was when I played ball. Same here when I played... Live ball is an opportunity for everyone, no point in wasting 1 of a finite number of plays... Throw aways don't require practice but testing everyone's capabilities and limits does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Warfish said: So effectively no actual competition was on the roster, and no actual competition happened. Thanks. As to your Hoyer = Johnson comment, I'll remind you that Hoyer has 39 career starts as an NFL QB. Johnson and White combined had 8. I think you'd have trouble finding many people that consider Johnson/White the equivalent or Hoyer. No question Zach was handed the job.. But I'm pretty sure Mac was too, I don't care what they said. I'm sure if he completely flopped in camp Hoyer would have played - but it's not like Hoyer was an incumbent stud that Jones beat out. Hoyer was there with the plan for him being a back-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Biggs said: He sucked. He was third in yards, 1st in attempts, 19th in completion percentage, 5th in TD's, 5th in yards per game. He had a ton of INT's. He ranked 28th in INT percentage and 1st in INT's. Zach. 30th in yards, 28th in attempts, 33 in completion percentage, 32nd in TD's, 31st in yards per game, 27th in INT percentage. Peyton compared to Zach as a rookie is first ballot HOF. I'm not comparing Manning to Zach... Just that Manning had a bad rookie year. Team wins 3 games and leads the league in INT's. and you're telling me he was good. Fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Happy to hear that Wilson and Mims showed up today, but man it sounds like Bryce Hall was getting torched out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: I don't like having Bryce Hall and Breece Hall on this roster. sh*t's confusing every time I read one of them did something. With the reports about Bryce Hall in OTAs, you may not have that problem come week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: His team was 3-13 and he didn't just throw "a lot of ints..." it's still a top 15 most INT's in a season of all time. I love Peyton - on of my favorite non-Jets of all time. But he was bad his rookie year. On a comparative basis to what we saw last year he was flat out great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 35 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Look at Becton next to Nate Herbig who is 6’4” 335lbs. Look at the lower half of their bodies, Bectons should look like Herbigs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: I don't like having Bryce Hall and Breece Hall on this roster. sh*t's confusing every time I read one of them did something. But Michael Carter was pretty good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Biggs Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: My Cat go a 4.0 in modern day academia It took Namath 35 years to graduate from Alabama. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, Warfish said: So effectively no actual competition was on the roster, and no actual competition happened. Thanks. As to your Hoyer = Johnson comment, I'll remind you that Hoyer has 39 career starts as an NFL QB. Johnson and White combined had 8. I think you'd have trouble finding many people that consider Johnson/White the equivalent or Hoyer. Cam wasn't cut until Mac won the job. Stidham was also on the roster. I don't think Johnson was on the roster when Zach was listed as No. 1 on the depth chart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Lith said: Sounds like we will have a new beat writer for the NYDN by the time camp starts. I liked DJ, once you got past his Dolphin fandom and "out of bounce" comments, I thought he was knowledgeable, shared some good insights and provided more info during practices than most of our writers. Manish coming back 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jimmy 2 Times Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: His team was 3-13 and he didn't just throw "a lot of ints..." it's still a top 15 most INT's in a season of all time. I love Peyton - on of my favorite non-Jets of all time. But he was bad his rookie year. Sorry, but you're wrong on this one. Dude was drafted to one of the worst teams of all time, tripled their win rate, while putting up numbers that would slide him into our top 5 seasons for a quarterback ever. 57%, 3700 yards, and 26 touchdowns in an era where DB's could still touch the receiver. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AFJF Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: I don't like having Bryce Hall and Breece Hall on this roster. sh*t's confusing every time I read one of them did something. Two Bryces, a Breece and a Huff and a Hall. Too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Beerfish said: But Michael Carter was pretty good. Every time he gains a yard I'm like but wait a second why would a defensive back do tha....oh ****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lith said: LOL at Joe Flacco as the clear #2. The Mike White fan club will not be happy to see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec143dmf Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, Claymation said: He didn't say he was out of shape. You cant be serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: LOL at Joe Flacco as the clear #2. The Mike White fan club will not be happy to see this. Joe was always going to be the #2. There's a reason they went out and signed Flacco as soon as Wilson got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, AFJF said: Two Bryces, a Breece and a Huff and a Hall. Too much. Wilson drops back, throws a short pass to Wilson, who tosses it back to Hall. Hall tries to tackle him, but Hall tosses it, this time to Carter who outruns Carter to the corner. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 47 minutes ago, Lith said: Sounds like we will have a new beat writer for the NYDN by the time camp starts. I liked DJ, once you got past his Dolphin fandom and "out of bounce" comments, I thought he was knowledgeable, shared some good insights and provided more info during practices than most of our writers. I was just starting to like this a-hole 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: There's a reason they went out and signed Flacco as soon as Wilson got hurt. Panic. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, Beerfish said: But Michael Carter was pretty good. If I was Michael Carter II, I would bribe the equipment staff to put MC2 on the back of my jersey. Yes, I am nerd, hear me roar. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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