Skeptable Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 9 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: Respectfully, you're smoking crack. I believe the non believers are actually the crackheads here 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 10 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: I agree with a lot of what you said but some is just blatant optimism without any kind of real proof. This fan base has been BEAT DOWN for so long that at this point negativity is just more habitual than optimism. I don't see 12 wins but 10 is realistic. The stealers, ravens, Browns, Miami and Pats are all beatable. We have done a LOT to improve this team. Sent from the NY Jets /Zack Wilson Suicide Watch desk. This on the beat down. Every off season are promises and hype and excitement. Then the season starts and every fan all at once become that one guy in waterboy "oh no, we suck again" Like we say every year.... hopefully this year is different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 Just now, PorP said: This on the beat down. Every off season are promises and hype and excitement. Then the season starts and every fan all at once become that one guy in waterboy "oh no, we suck again" Like we say every year.... hopefully this year is different. This year is actually different.. I understand why it seems like the rhetoric every year... This team has never been more suited to surprise the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Jets will win some games this year, no doubt about it. For them to win the division however something must go seriously wrong with Buffalo. They are clear favorites 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Skeptable said: It seems you are underestimating adding either a probowler or high draft talent to every position group not to mention the most injured team last year... Never since I have been a fan has the team improved this much in an off season... Less then 10 wins is an absolute failure... Safety... Added probowler and brought back their 2nd best player as well CB.... Added a probowler and a top 5 draft pick.. LB... Injuries but didn't get worse DL... Added Martin, Lawson, Thomas and move JFM inside WR... Added top 10 draft talent only lost a possession Wr RB... added a 3 down NFL ready back to pair with MC... TE... added 2 top 10 TEs and drafted the top blocking TE in the draft... OL... added a pro bowl guard and get back a top 10 LT talent from injury... Lose a net negative in GVR and Moses which could hurt depth... QB in his 2nd year that all QBs make a big leap. So please come at with where the Jets didn't improve... Not to mention coaching should be better all around in the 2nd year and 2nd year of system. The pessimism of this fan group is stupid and ridiculous... I have been a fan for 40+ years and this is close to the lowest optimism I have seen.... It's worse then Gase year 2... Which is bad... We've definitely added a lot of talent. QB is the multiplier. If Zach takes the jump we can be a good team. If he continues to struggle, the team will too. Hard to blame people for being pessimistic after the last decade of garbage we've watched. I think the improvement at the TE position will be huge for the offense. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 8 minutes ago, Skeptable said: This year is actually different.. I understand why it seems like the rhetoric every year... This team has never been more suited to surprise the league Agreed ... it is different. And most certainly in the better kind of way too. 100% with you. For me personally. I can't put W/L on success. I also don't think W's are the only thing that defines success... again.. for me. I've got a really hot temper and I could not finish watching all games last year without my TV being in peril. I think I can live with 5 wins as long as every game is like the Tampa game where both teams are playing compotent football and it goes to the wire. Or I can cream myself with 10 or 12 wings! But there is just too much youth on the team without even a practice yet for me to lean one way or the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, munchmemory said: Elizabeth Montgomery. Hot. Mary Tyler Moore from the Dick Van Dyke Show era has a huge following Dirty 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: We've definitely added a lot of talent. QB is the multiplier. If Zach takes the jump we can be a good team. If he continues to struggle, the team will too. Hard to blame people for being pessimistic after the last decade of garbage we've watched. I think the improvement at the TE position will be huge for the offense. QB is extra... This team is better even with a mediocre qb... Everyone is putting too much emphasis on the QB... Do I personally think he will be better... Yes I think he is going to put non-believers to shame... But this is a team built to win with or without a talented qb... Hence getting homerun hitters like hall and Wilson... And adding so much safety outs it Conklin and uzomah.. Just adding those TEs is going to improve this offense immensely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 @Skeptable starts a thread and then net reps just about everyone who posts in that threads? Why the hell would you neg rep MTM? Mindless 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 9 minutes ago, PorP said: Agreed ... it is different. And most certainly in the better kind of way too. 100% with you. For me personally. I can't put W/L on success. I also don't think W's are the only thing that defines success... again.. for me. I've got a really hot temper and I could not finish watching all games last year without my TV being in peril. I think I can live with 5 wins as long as every game is like the Tampa game where both teams are playing compotent football and it goes to the wire. Or I can cream myself with 10 or 12 wings! But there is just too much youth on the team without even a practice yet for me to lean one way or the other. I get it but disagree... Wins are the only true measure in this league... Enough with the moral victories... Wins now or failure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 Just now, Jet Nut said: @Skeptable starts a thread and then net reps just about everyone who posts in that threads? No I neg rep assholes derailing the thread talking about 50 year old talk show talent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, Skeptable said: No I neg rep assholes derailing the thread talking about 50 year old talk show talent No you neg rep everyone who is smarter than you. It’s just what you do. Always. You neg repped a post asking why you neg repped MTM. Youre just being a douche 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 Just now, Jet Nut said: No you neg rep everyone who is smarter than you. It’s what you do Youre being a douche I neg repped you for derailing a thread that is all move along 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 7 minutes ago, Skeptable said: I neg repped you for derailing a thread that is all move along I responded to a couple of posts. You don’t like it, too bad. That you don’t realize all your neg reps and explanations just derailing your own thread is funny. I do like that you respond to a post and then gave yourself a laugh emoji. You’re into it. We should all neg rep you since you think it’s a thing Since we’re all “assholes”. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 19 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Mary Tyler Moore from the Dick Van Dyke Show era has a huge following Dirty I'm also giving The Avengers' Diana Rigg a huge...er.. thumbs up. I could give two s*its about the forthcoming neg rep. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 29 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Jets will win some games this year, no doubt about it. For them to win the division however something must go seriously wrong with Buffalo. They are clear favorites Favorites for sure... They also have tougher opponents they need to face.. For 3 games... This will make a difference... 11 wins for them I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, munchmemory said: I'm also giving The Avengers' Diana Rigg a huge...er.. thumbs up. I could give two s*its about the forthcoming neg rep. Avengers baby. And a neg rep from guess who? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 5 minutes ago, munchmemory said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, munchmemory said: Elizabeth Montgomery. Hot. No Barbara Eden? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 3 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said: No Barbara Eden? Done. And unlike Tony, I can right off the top of my head think of a bunch of interesting wishes. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 10 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: 16 minutes ago, munchmemory said: Expand 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 37 minutes ago, Skeptable said: I get it but disagree... Wins are the only true measure in this league... Enough with the moral victories... Wins now or failure... Understand your point of view and I will caveat my 5 win comment. I know rebuilds take 3 years and cincy is a rarity. I'm fully bought in on Joe D and Saleh. If Joe and or Saleh start making questionable decisions, then 5 wins will look real bad and I'll be in your bandwagon with a quickness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 27 minutes ago, Skeptable said: Favorites for sure... They also have tougher opponents they need to face.. For 3 games... This will make a difference... 11 wins for them I think. You have the Jets winning 12 and Bills winning 11? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 44 minutes ago, Skeptable said: Wins now or failure... I think most of us expect more wins. But if the team looks good, and if Zach is coming along, I think a lot of us would be satisfied with 6-9 wins. Is that satisfactory to you, or are you more along the lines of playoffs or bust? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 51 minutes ago, Skeptable said: QB is extra... This team is better even with a mediocre qb... Everyone is putting too much emphasis on the QB... Do I personally think he will be better... Yes I think he is going to put non-believers to shame... But this is a team built to win with or without a talented qb... Hence getting homerun hitters like hall and Wilson... And adding so much safety outs it Conklin and uzomah.. Just adding those TEs is going to improve this offense immensely. The team is better even with a mediocre qb but it's not like we built like 2009/10 where the defense is dominant. We could have a dominant rushing attack if the o-line all comes together and Hall is as advertised but we don't have that shut down D to go along w/it. That's the type of team I think of when you think about winning even with a mediocre QB. Pass D should be a lot better but I still worry about the run D. If D continues to get gashed it's going to take pretty good QB play for this team to take a leap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 7 minutes ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: I think most of us expect more wins. But if the team looks good, and if Zach is coming along, I think a lot of us would be satisfied with 6-9 wins. Is that satisfactory to you, or are you more along the lines of playoffs or bust? 10 wins or bust... Playoffs should be expected though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skeptable Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: The team is better even with a mediocre qb but it's not like we built like 2009/10 where the defense is dominant. We could have a dominant rushing attack if the o-line all comes together and Hall is as advertised but we don't have that shut down D to go along w/it. That's the type of team I think of when you think about winning even with a mediocre QB. Pass D should be a lot better but I still worry about the run D. If D continues to get gashed it's going to take pretty good QB play for this team to take a leap. Fair point about run defense... I think with whitehead at safety and improvements on the DL should fix that issue... Also thinking the improvements to the offense will score more points forcing more passing than last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 13 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: The team is better even with a mediocre qb but it's not like we built like 2009/10 where the defense is dominant. We could have a dominant rushing attack if the o-line all comes together and Hall is as advertised but we don't have that shut down D to go along w/it. That's the type of team I think of when you think about winning even with a mediocre QB. Pass D should be a lot better but I still worry about the run D. If D continues to get gashed it's going to take pretty good QB play for this team to take a leap. 1 million thousand hundred percent. And I'd even go 09 - 12. I remember multiple interviews from different players / teams starting they most hated playing the jets because win/lose they knew they were going to catch a defense arse whoopin. Depending on how the new adds pan out though. I don't think we are far off, I'm expecting big things from QW this year, both of em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 For a Moment I thought you were a Bills fan.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, munchmemory said: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 3 hours ago, munchmemory said: Hmmm...I've been watching some Match Game reruns lately. Gotta tell ya, Betty White was pretty hot for an older lady. Betty White back in the day…. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Just now, Jet Nut said: Betty White back in the day…. Good Lord. Never saw that shot before. If that's truly a young Betty White? She's absolutely stunning. Wow. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 “Skeptable” is false advertising 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, munchmemory said: Good Lord. Never saw that shot before. If that's truly a young Betty White? She's absolutely stunning. Wow. Uglies don’t have 70 year film careers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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