NFL Network predicts 3 wins for Jets

[Bronx]

Accurate! 

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

Just about every year it's the same deal

*Jets suck the previous season*

Vegas/ESPN/NFLN/Some random blogger/Youtuber: "The Jets will probably suck again."

Some fans: "Wait, wuuuuuuuut? How dare they disrespect us!"

*Jets suck again*

Same fans: "How could we have seen this coming?"

Then an arrow pointing back to step one to create an endless cycle of misery.

[Long Island Leprechaun]

33 minutes ago, bitonti said:

If the Jets are as injured as they were the last few years, 3 wins is very realistic

This 7-8 win stuff is like a best case scenario 

Everything has to be break just right for the Jets to sniff 500

Since when has that happened? A bet on Jets good luck is a Homer bet 

Well, at least you're consistent in your complete negativity. Bravo.

[Spoot-Face]

1 minute ago, jgb said:

Then an arrow pointing back to step one to create an endless cycle of misery.

Like the Ryan Fitzpatrick cycle, but with less winning.

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

Well, at least you're consistent in your complete negativity. Bravo.

Negativity, accuracy… interchangeable really.

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

Like the Ryan Fitzpatrick cycle, but with less winning.

Sharing the similarity of plenty of unwarranted contracts, though!

[Jet Nut]

47 minutes ago, LionelRichie said:

The jets haven’t been over .500 at any point in the season is like 5 years.    Can you really blame an analyst for 3 wins? 

It’s the NFL, 5 years ago under Macc has no bearing on what this team will win.  You look at the roster and you make your predictions.  But you don’t base it on 2017 win totals 

[jgb]

Just now, Jet Nut said:

It’s the NFL, 5 years ago under Macc has no bearing on what this team will win.  You look at the roster and you make your predictions.  But you don’t base it on 2017 win totals 

It’s pretty obvious why some aren’t giving the Jets a lot of love in the W/L column despite a universally-hailed off season.

[Jet Nut]

Just now, jgb said:

It’s pretty obvious why some aren’t giving the Jets a lot of love in the W/L column despite a universally-hailed off season.

Except there’s good reason for optimism after the offseason.  Not predicting 13 wins and playoffs but this isn’t a 3 win roster.   Just like the Bears aren’t a 10 win SB contender 

[jgb]

1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

Except there’s good reason for optimism after the offseason.  Not predicting 13 wins and playoffs but this isn’t a 3 win roster.   Just like the Bears aren’t a 10 win SB contender 

Sure there’s a reason for optimism but also pessimism. Neither take is absurd on its face.

[faba]

3 wins seems ridiculous but our recent history is what the so called analysts go on. Time to change that trajectory upward

[y2k8]

They better be wrong.

I can't bear witness to another season that is over before Halloween. I just can't do it again. Enough is enough.

[kevinc855]

1 hour ago, Lith said:

Same guy has the Bears going 10-7, making the playoffs and refers to their matchup with the Bills as a "potential Super Bowl matchup."  

This makes me feel much better.

Guy is clearly delusional 

[kevinc855]

1 minute ago, y2k8 said:

They better be wrong.

I can't bear witness to another season that is over before Halloween. I just can't do it again. Enough is enough.

Yep 3-14 this year would be soul crushing 

[munchmemory]

Back in March, I called 2-4 wins.    Guess they finally read my post and split the difference.

[Long Island Leprechaun]

51 minutes ago, jgb said:

Negativity, accuracy… interchangeable really.

In reference to the future? Not quite.

[JohnnyLV]

1 hour ago, bitonti said:

If the Jets are as injured as they were the last few years, 3 wins is very realistic

This 7-8 win stuff is like a best case scenario 

Everything has to be break just right for the Jets to sniff 500

Since when has that happened? A bet on Jets good luck is a Homer bet 

I just do not agree with this. Our TE room was a solid 32nd in the league last year. Now our room is solidly Top 10 overall. If that is ALL we did this offseason we would win more games than last year.

Further from  free agency: We went from a terrible guard to literally a Pro Bowler. We added an excellent strong safety and a plus level starting corner and depth on the DL. We lost Crowder.

Our defense cannot really be worse than last year.

Then we added conservatively one of the top 2 corners, one of the Top 3 WR one of the Top 2 RBs and a TE that was as high as #1 on many boards.

There is no way this team does not win more than 3 and in my opinion 7 or 8 is overly conservative.

Remember that every year 20% of the good teams get worse and 20% of the bad teams get better but all these predictions are based on the good teams staying good and mediocre teams getting worse which is not what happens.

 

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, Spoot-Face said:

Just about every year it's the same deal

*Jets suck the previous season*

Vegas/ESPN/NFLN/Some random blogger/Youtuber: "The Jets will probably suck again."

Some fans: "Wait, wuuuuuuuut? How dare they disrespect us!"

*Jets suck again*

Same fans: "How could we have seen this coming?"

 

[JohnnyLV]

25 minutes ago, y2k8 said:

They better be wrong.

I can't bear witness to another season that is over before Halloween. I just can't do it again. Enough is enough.

If it somehow how did happen than Zach would have to play as bad or worse than last year, our coaches would have to suck and our draft picks would need to bust. And everyone would be fired. This team is just not that bad. In fact we are actually a talented team but everyone refuses to see it.

[Fantasy Island]

3-6 wins is realistic.

If we had got Matt Ryan , then 6-10 wins would be my expectation.

Hopefully Hall is the next Derrick Henry.

[Wit]

3 wins means Zach sucks and cant even game manage. The two best things that can happen are that Zach sucks and we bring in another QB to a stacked and young team, or that Zach is good (not even great) and we get to 7-8 wins at least with hope for the future.

[PepPep]

1 hour ago, bitonti said:

If the Jets are as injured as they were the last few years, 3 wins is very realistic

This 7-8 win stuff is like a best case scenario 

Everything has to be break just right for the Jets to sniff 500

Since when has that happened? A bet on Jets good luck is a Homer bet 

I mean. There seems to be this all or noting attitude. That's just not how things work. 'everything' doesn't need to break just right for the Jets.

If just a few things do and they can win 8-9 games. Below are games I think they will WIN and LOSE. No homer stuff. They split divisional games against the Fins and Pats and they lose both divisional games against the Bills. They get the very winnable games vs Detroit, Jax, Chi, @Seattle, and @Minnesota. That is 7 wins right there. 

NOW- if a few things go their way. If they stay healthy while the opposition has some untimely injuries (maybe Rodgers or Burrow get hurt?). The Jets could easily steal a few games and end up with 8 or 9 wins. Its not crazy talk. These things happen all the time. 

Just as easily, things could break south for the Jets and they could get hit by the injury bug or lose some of the games they should win, ending up with 3 or 4 wins. Also possible. Albeit, unlikely, IMO.    

vsBaltimore- L

@Cleveland- L (winnable) 

vsCincinnati- L (winnable) 

@Pittsburgh- L (winnable)

vsMiami- W

@Green Bay- L (winnable) 

@Denver- L

vsNew England- W

vsBuffalo- L

10BYE WEEK

@New England- L (winnable)

vsChicago- W

@Minnesota- W

@Buffalo- L

vsDetroit- W

vsJacksonville- W

@Seattle- W

@Miami- L (winnable)

[bitonti]

32 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

I just do not agree with this. Our TE room was a solid 32nd in the league last year. Now our room is solidly Top 10 overall. If that is ALL we did this offseason we would win more games than last year.

Currently Ruckert and CJ are hurt. Conklin is the only one healthy 

oh, but they will be ready by training camp and week 1 for sure. Right?  just like how Becton had a 4 week injury. 

Look we agree the team got better. But the schedule got harder and we don't know how the injuries are going to break.  

this scenario where they wildly outperform the vegas numbers is possible it's also an extreme outlyer

there's also the outlyer that no one is healthy, the turf monster gobbles up half the team and we're picking top 5 again 

Zach Wilson is of course key to all this. And he didn't make it through 17 games last year. Joe Flacco time is coming and it's going to be painful  

if you don't remember anything from this rant, ask yourself this: 

if the Jets are realistically going to be favored in like 3 of these games, why is predicting them for 3 wins so negative? 

[bitonti]

2 minutes ago, PepPep said:

NOW- if a few things go their way. If they stay healthy while the opposition has some untimely injuries (maybe Rodgers or Burrow get hurt?). The Jets could easily steal a few games and end up with 8 or 9 wins. Its not crazy talk. These things happen all the time. 

Just as easily, things could break south for the Jets and they could get hit by the injury bug or lose some of the games they should win, ending up with 3 or 4 wins. Also possible. Albeit, unlikely, IMO.    

it's a homer prediction to predict 2 division wins when they haven't won a division game for 3 years. 

but aside from that you're making a ton of sense and I basically agree with all of it.

where we disagree is that they are more likely to steal games up to 8 than they are getting screwed by bad luck and ending up at 3. Those outcomes seem equally plausible. leaving the average outcome somewhere in the 5-6 win neighborhood. They are a young team, relying on youth at too many key spots.  

 

[bitonti]

29 minutes ago, Wit said:

3 wins means Zach sucks and cant even game manage. The two best things that can happen are that Zach sucks and we bring in another QB to a stacked and young team, or that Zach is good (not even great) and we get to 7-8 wins at least with hope for the future.

I don't see them bringing in any real competition for ZW, ever. 

They might trade him for picks one day but this scenario where Zach Wilson has to earn his starting job is a fantasy.  

[jgb]

 

1 hour ago, y2k8 said:

They better be wrong.

I can't bear witness to another season that is over before Halloween. I just can't do it again. Enough is enough.

just change the narrative at Halloween to “it’s actually better this way because the team wasn’t going anywhere anyway and now we get a better draft pick.” Then reload next summer and dive back in again.

[jgb]

27 minutes ago, bitonti said:

I don't see them bringing in any real competition for ZW, ever. 

They might trade him for picks one day but this scenario where Zach Wilson has to earn his starting job is a fantasy.  

Apparently fighting for your job harms your confidence more than losing 80% of your games…

[kevinc855]

43 minutes ago, bitonti said:

if the Jets are realistically going to be favored in like 3 of these games, why is predicting them for 3 wins so negative? 

Because they won 4 Games last year with the worst defense in the NFL and a bottom 5 offense. Winning less game this year with all the roster upgrades be mind boggling 

[jgb]

1 hour ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

In reference to the future? Not quite.

It’s only been true for 11 consecutive years. But sure maybe this is the year it won’t.

[Jet Nut]

47 minutes ago, bitonti said:

MCurrently Ruckert and CJ are hurt. Conklin is the only one healthy 

oh, but they will be ready by training camp and week 1 for sure. Right?  just like how Becton had a 4 week injury. 

Look we agree the team got better. But the schedule got harder and we don't know how the injuries are going to break.  

this scenario where they wildly outperform the vegas numbers is possible it's also an extreme outlyer

there's also the outlyer that no one is healthy, the turf monster gobbles up half the team and we're picking top 5 again 

Zach Wilson is of course key to all this. And he didn't make it through 17 games last year. Joe Flacco time is coming and it's going to be painful  

if you don't remember anything from this rant, ask yourself this: 

if the Jets are realistically going to be favored in like 3 of these games, why is predicting them for 3 wins so negative? 

What?  Rucker’s isn’t playing?  Based on what?  CJ isn’t either?  Where do you come up with this?  

Saying the Jets will struggle if they get a rash of injuries to key players isn’t really insightful.  Guess what, the Bills get a rash of injuries to key players when we’re playing them it betters the odds of a win.   Which is why the yearly prediction on the difficulty of a schedule is pointless.  All of this makes it just as pointless as thinking you know today who’ll be favored in an October matchup.  
 

 

[Spoot-Face]

23 minutes ago, jgb said:

 

just change the narrative at Halloween to “it’s actually better this way because the team wasn’t going anywhere anyway and now we get a better draft pick.” Then reload next summer and dive back in again.

That's why I'm getting ahead of the curve and just rooting for them to lose out now.

[jgb]

11 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Because they won 4 Games last year with the worst defense in the NFL and a bottom 5 offense. Winning less game this year with all the roster upgrades be mind boggling 

There is no greater pain than that of shattered expectations. Protect your neck, bro.

[jgb]

Just now, Spoot-Face said:

That's why I'm getting ahead of the curve and just rooting for them to lose out now.

[Spoot-Face]

1 minute ago, jgb said:

It’s only been true for 11 consecutive years. But sure maybe this is the year it won’t.

Maybe this is the year Papa comes back with smokes! 

[Spoot-Face]

1 minute ago, jgb said:

Stay tuned for my TED talk.