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Why did Sam Darnold fail to develop into a good NFL QB?


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  1. 1. Why did Sam Darnold fail to develop into a good NFL QB? (Check all that apply)

    • Lack of Overall Athleticism
      6
    • Lack of Vision / "In Game" Awareness
      104
    • Poor Technique / Passing Skills
      50
    • Lack of Great Leadership Skills / Not Seen as Inspiring or a "Winner" by Teammates
      28
    • Inadequate Work Habits / Lazy / Insufficient Commitment to the Game
      16
    • Immaturity / Lacked Social or Interpersonal Skills to Succeed
      12
    • Was Never Surrounded with Enough Quality Players to be Successful
      58
    • Was not mentally "tough" - not a "fighter"
      34
    • Poor Coaching / Bad System
      68
    • Other
      14


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4 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Watch his game vs Ohio State.

That basically told you everything you needed to know about how he would be as a pro.

Maccaganan apparently never watched that game or ignored it. 

Instead, he placed total confidence in having scouted him live in LA and sensing the "positive vibes" around Sammy on the sidelines.  And after all, Sam's USC teammates "loved him".  Definitely worth dealing 3 2nd round picks to move up 3 spots for the possibility of drafting.

An even greater indictment is that Macc didn't even know who was going to be there at 3 when the deal was made. He was totally cool with letting fate pick for him. He was ambivalent whether it was Baker Darnold or Rosen. 

He never would've taken Allen because he still had PTSD from Hackenberg and Allen was facially-similar as a prospect coming out.

LJax was never in the discussion.

If Giants took Darnold or traded out to someone who did, he 100% would've taken Rosen. And then every single Darnold excuse would've been made for Rosen verbatim (except perhaps "but he's a nice boy") for 3 years because we all know Jets wouldn't have dumped him after a year like the Cards did.

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3 hours ago, jgb said:

An even greater indictment is that Macc didn't even know who was going to be there at 3 when the deal was made. He was totally cool with letting fate pick for him. He was ambivalent whether it was Baker Darnold or Rosen. 

He never would've taken Allen because he still had PTSD from Hackenberg and Allen was facially-similar as a prospect coming out.

LJax was never in the discussion.

If Giants took Darnold or traded out to someone who did, he 100% would've taken Rosen. And then every single Darnold excuse would've been made for Rosen verbatim (except perhaps "but he's a nice boy") for 3 years because we all know Jets wouldn't have dumped him after a year like the Cards did.

And let's face it, would Allen or Jackson really succeed with the roster Macc built? Probably not. Even if you acknowledge that Darnold just sucks, and his supporting cast couldn't have helped, Macc proved that the cast can make it all worse. Jets were screwed no matter who they took.

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16 hours ago, Hex said:

And let's face it, would Allen or Jackson really succeed with the roster Macc built? Probably not. Even if you acknowledge that Darnold just sucks, and his supporting cast couldn't have helped, Macc proved that the cast can make it all worse. Jets were screwed no matter who they took.

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6 hours ago, bitonti said:

the point of taking a franchise QB high is that they don't need a perfect roster to win games. They are the franchise QB 

This gets dismissed so often around here and its infuriating.  

Teams who draft QBs high tend to be bad teams.  If those QB's are the goods, that doesn't seem to matter a whole lot.  Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, Kyler Murray....all QB's who were drafted high by bad teams who have found success.  

Franchise QBs make their teams better.  If they need to enter great circumstances to find success, then they're not franchise QB's.  At best, guys like those are game managers, and no one should be advocating using a top 5 or 10 pick on a game manager.  

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