Robert Saleh trying to lift Jets to new level with ‘Positive Vibes Only’ mantra

[Bronx]

https://nypost.com/2022/07/25/robert-saleh-trying-to-lift-jets-up-with-positive-vibes-only-mantra/

Robert Saleh is standing in the field house at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center. It is a June morning, and the second-year head coach of the Jets is wearing a T-shirt that reads: Positive Vibes Only. A T-shirt that was born shortly after the Senior Bowl. 

“We were going through self-scout, and there was a little bitching about some of the stuff that we were seeing on tape, and I said, ‘Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Guys, we are PVO. We are Positive Vibes Only, we’re not complaining about what we see, we are finding ways to get better,’” Saleh told The Post. 

After his 4-13 rookie season, after an 11-year playoff drought, after one lone Super Bowl championship back on Jan. 12, 1969, the mettle of the HC of the NYJ is forever tested under the bright glare of the passionate, long-suffering Jets fan, and Robert Saleh embraces the challenge fearlessly on the eve of his second training camp. 

No one should have expected miracles last season with a rookie head coach and rookie quarterback and rookie offensive coordinator, and no one should be expecting miracles now, especially not with a formidable AFC East and AFC West … but following a banner draft, it should not be lost on anyone that the franchise has trumpeted Flight 2022 as its marketing campaign. 

If Zach Wilson is the pilot, Saleh is the co-pilot. And vice versa. 

If Saleh can take his own second-year leap and field a defense that scares the opponent rather than Jets fans, he will have a chance to again double the victory total. 

“There’s a difference between pressure and stress,” Saleh says. “Pressure — things you got full control over. Stress are things you have zero control over, like external noise. So I ignore external stress. That’s not my problem.

Give me all the pressure I can handle. 

“Give me the pressure of trying to prepare, give me the pressure of trying to get people prepared, give me the pressure of game-planning … I’ll take all the pressure I can because I’ve got control of it. So when people say pressure and stress, I try to alleviate and try to keep myself removed from all the things I have zero control over ’cause in moments of stress when you have no control and you’re trying to gain control of something, that’s when crazy stuff happens. So again, just keep yourself in the moment, dominate the things you got control over and trust that the good things will happen.” 

I asked Saleh if he feels pressure to win. 

“No, you’re always trying to win,” he said. “You lose one game and — kick him out, right? You always have that pressure to win. You always have that pressure to perform, you always have that pressure to show up and be your personal best every day, so there’s always that pressure, which I welcome. You want that. You want that pressure.” 

Bill Parcells used to say that there will be no less than five unexpected things that come across your desk every day as a head coach. The tragic death of passing game specialist Greg Knapp rocked the organization before training camp last July. 

“In moments of adversity your true character will reveal itself, and if your true character is different than what you’ve been, that’s when people call BS and you’ll start losing that trust from people,” Saleh said. “So try to stay authentic, try to stay true to yourself, respond to things the way you would. You don’t have to go outside yourself to respond to adversity, you just need to be true.” 

[Bronx]

2021 NY Jets' mantra: "All gas, no brakes."

[Lith]

Positive vibes only? He better stay away from JN.


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[Trotter]

I like saleh and still believe he will do well, but more and more I am seeing signs of Mickey Callaway

hope to god I am wrong.

[Untouchable]

[68JET11]

this will be a telling year regarding Saleh's ability to coach this team. Rah Rah is fine as long as they play with smarts as well. I believe we have a good OC, the test this year is whether we have a good DC. If not, then Saleh needs to make moves to correct that.

[DarthVitreous]

The more Saleh speaks, the less I like him. We have the participation trophy head coach. He is the opposite of what a successful head coach in the NFL should sound like. Cheering effort not results, lack of accountability, excuses, the players best friend. This will not end well. 

[jgb]

[Matt39]

Pete Carroll made it work. Can Saleh keep guys out of the the trainers room is the question. 

[PorP]

1 hour ago, Bronx said:

2021 NY Jets' mantra: "All gas, no brakes."

I have a positive attitude!!!!!

I am positive this represents our season this year. 

[Charlie Brown]

Saleh is an outstanding Coach and is a quality human being and will show why the Jets chose him this season.

Also when the Jets hired Saleh they said from day one that it would take three years to get where we want to go and that is precisely what it looks like to me. 
 

We were one of the worst teams in the NFL for a decade for a reason and in a tough division there isn’t going to be a magic jump but we are headed in the right direction. 

[More Cowbell]

Does anyone think BB or Andy Ried says POV during a film study session?

[Joe W. Namath]

Positive Bobby.  Love it!

[Dunnie]

... and here we go!!!



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[Jet Nut]

17 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

Does anyone think BB or Andy Ried says POV during a film study session?

Bigger question does anyone believe the nonsense coaches say in press conferences like this?  No one makes a negative comment about a broken play or better yet a players play and abilities? 

[More Cowbell]

8 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Bigger question does anyone believe the nonsense coaches say in press conferences like this?  No one makes a negative comment about a broken play or better yet a players play and abilities? 

Good point but then what does that say about our HC

[Jet Nut]

4 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

Good point but then what does that say about our HC

That he paints a positive outlook to the media and fan base?  
Like most HCs do.  Especially at the start of a season, hat’s all

[freestater]

1 hour ago, Bronx said:

No, you’re always trying to win,” he said. “You lose one game and — kick him out, right?

Hyperbole. You better start notching wins this year, Positive Bobby. 

[nj meadowlands]

I don't hate it.  #PVO

[jgb]

1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

Pete Carroll made it work. Can Saleh keep guys out of the the trainers room is the question. 

Lots of things work when you have a HOF calibre QB.

[BigRy56]

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[Kolchak]

[Dreams]

1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

Pete Carroll made it work. Can Saleh keep guys out of the the trainers room is the question. 

Did he? Let's be honest, Pete Carroll benefited from a loaded roster and they hit on the QB. Yes he's a functionally decent coach but he's also responsible for losing a Super Bowl more than he should get credit for wining one. Other than that, you could argue he's underachieved given the talent that was given him. 

 

[Dunnie]

...not to be a downer ... but from the University of Minnesota ....

https://www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/survivorship/toxic-positivity

What is toxic positivity?

Toxic positivity is the excessive and ineffective overgeneralization of a happy, optimistic state across all situations. It doesn't feel good to be on the receiving end of it, and it generally isn't helpful. 

Pain and suffering are uncomfortable not only to experience but also to talk about. However, it is important for your mental and physical health to express and talk about those experiences. Often times, people just want to help and will say things like "it could be worse" or "look on the bright side". 

Positivity becomes toxic when someone is forced to be or seem to be positive in situations that it would be unnatural for them to be positive in, or when a problem exists that needs to be acknowledged before it can be dealt with. 

For what its worth .. i don't necessarily agree with this article.

 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Dunnie

[Integrity28]

3 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

...not to be a downer ... but from the University of Minnesota ....

https://www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/survivorship/toxic-positivity

What is toxic positivity?

Toxic positivity is the excessive and ineffective overgeneralization of a happy, optimistic state across all situations. It doesn't feel good to be on the receiving end of it, and it generally isn't helpful. 

Pain and suffering are uncomfortable not only to experience but also to talk about. However, it is important for your mental and physical health to express and talk about those experiences. Often times, people just want to help and will say things like "it could be worse" or "look on the bright side". 

Positivity becomes toxic when someone is forced to be or seem to be positive in situations that it would be unnatural for them to be positive in, or when a problem exists that needs to be acknowledged before it can be dealt with. 

 

Yea, toxic positivity crossed my mind when reading this. It’s a tight rope walk.

I worked with a woman that essentially would try to end your career if you were realistic and crept in on her ‘look at me I’m so upbeat and positive’ bullsh*t. She was a ******* shark.

That said, the teams I lead are rooted socially in being constructive. Positivity isn’t forced on people, but the expectation to be constructive is firmly in place. Learn from mistakes, don’t bitch about them. Move forward, always. Until proven otherwise, I’ll assume Saleh is building something more akin to what I’m describing. 
 

[Integrity28]

11 minutes ago, Dreams said:

Did he? Let's be honest, Pete Carroll benefited from a loaded roster and they hit on the QB. Yes he's a functionally decent coach but he's also responsible for losing a Super Bowl more than he should get credit for wining one. Other than that, you could argue he's underachieved given the talent that was given him. 

 

I agree with this.

Marshawn Lynch was easily the most impactful RB in football in that stretch. Russ is Russ. That defense was stifling. They should have won more.

[slats]

The man is trying to get the stench of losing out of the carpets and drapes at One Jets Drive. He learned last year that it’s no easy task. The good thing about being such a young team is that the players are more likely to buy in to the sunshine and rainbows he’s selling. At the end of the day, all the teaching they’re doing needs to lead to wins or the players will tune them out. I can’t complain about a happy camp right now, though. These guys play a game for a living, they should be having fun doing it. I’ll wait to see if it doesn’t work before I complain, lol. For now, I still like Saleh. 

[Jet9]

[Bronx]

20 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

if you were realistic and crept in on her ‘look at me I’m so upbeat and positive’ bullsh*t. 

@Joe W. Namath

[David Harris]

Pete Carroll is the comp.  Really no one else has done much with PVO.  It's a new generation though and players may respond well to this, especially with the strong locker room JD has built.  I like it...if it works.  I like a coach who can appropriately chew a player out to get the best out of him, Salah doesn't do that.  The culture of fear in NE turned those guys into soldier robots that did their jobs.  Bruce Arians was full of piss and vinegar.  McVay seems like a mostly positive guy - super intense though.  Andy Reid can get pissed off but is mostly even tempered.  

Can Salah get his teams ready to start fast, last year he certainly did not.  I really like the guy and his approach but we have to see players coming out on fire at the start of the season and more specifically at the start of games.  He'll be judged on that and game management.

Salah is easily my favorite HC in a decade but I wonder if we have a better HC candidate calling plays from the booth.   

[Dunnie]

Admittedly - i am just unsure of the pvo approach.   Seems to be the way of the everyone wins a trophy world now .. but does it work in an actual competitive environment. Will be interesting to see for sure.

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, Integrity28 said:

Yea, toxic positivity crossed my mind when reading this. It’s a tight rope walk.

I worked with a woman that essentially would try to end your career if you were realistic and crept in on her ‘look at me I’m so upbeat and positive’ bullsh*t. She was a ******* shark.

That said, the teams I lead are rooted socially in being constructive. Positivity isn’t forced on people, but the expectation to be constructive is firmly in place. Learn from mistakes, don’t bitch about them. Move forward, always. Until proven otherwise, I’ll assume Saleh is building something more akin to what I’m describing. 
 

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 we’re not complaining about what we see, we are finding ways to get better,’” Saleh told The Post. 

It's exactly what he said.  As an inveterate complainer, I don't like it much, but I understand the point and support it. 

[thebuzzardman]

[TuscanyTile2]

3 hours ago, Trotter said:

I like saleh and still believe he will do well, but more and more I am seeing signs of Mickey Callaway

hope to god I am wrong.

That would not be good - lol.   I don't feel strongly about Saleh so far.  Really liked the OC pick but didn't care much for our DC.  We'll learn a lot more about them all this year.  I still wouldn't pass up on Sean Payton if there's any chance he'd come here.  And if ZW shows promise, I could absolutely see Payton start to think this might be a very desirable place for him.

[Joe W. Namath]

Only Jet fans could turn the coaches positivity against him.  Unreal.