Dunnie Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 One guy is a descent QB. The other guy is a descent person. Baker will be declared the starter after the 1st preseason game.Where are they descending to ? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Mayfield had a pretty decent situation in Cleveland. It’ll be interesting to see how they are head to head in the same situation. I think Mayfield’s the clear favorite, but makes sense to have them compete. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Where are they descending to ? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Oops. Got an unnecessary s in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Oops. Got an unnecessary s in there. But i had a T and not D. So both words would be misspelled.Just messing w/ u Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Amazingly, that is true. And its probably not even close. Any time somebody says it’s not close, it is very close. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I can't understand how anyone with 2 functioning eyeballs can say that Darnold is a better QB than Mayfield. Not saying he is top 10 or even 15 but Baker has proven he belongs in the league and may still improve. Mayfield, middle of the pack starter. Darnold, bottom of the pack back up maybe out of the league in a year or 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 11 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: The Master at work. Woody will extend Joe Douglas soon and make him the highest paid GM in the league. And it will be a steal cause hes worth 3 times that. I might like to see a JD-designed roster win more games than they lose in a season at least once before I make him the highest paid GM in the NFL or claim he's worth 3x the highest paid GM in the NFL. But I know, extreme hyperbole is your SAR-like schtick these days. So keep on keepin' on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 11 hours ago, More Cowbell said: Actually, we will find this out (who is worse). Baker got off to a faster start and played on a loaded team but he made some God awful throws last season. And somehow Darnold was worse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: I can't understand how anyone with 2 functioning eyeballs can say that Darnold is a better QB than Mayfield. Not saying he is top 10 or even 15 but Baker has proven he belongs in the league and may still improve. Mayfield, middle of the pack starter. Darnold, bottom of the pack back up maybe out of the league in a year or 2. Isn't that what competitions are for? Let the two of them settle that question on the field, with the #1 job on the line. Best man wins. I think Mayfield will win out, but in fairness, I preferred Mayfield over Darnold quite a bit that draft cycle, so I have some bias on this one no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 9 hours ago, GreenFish said: One guy is a descent QB. The other guy is a descent person. Baker will be declared the starter after the 1st preseason game. They are both descending. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I feel for the Jets fans who are also Baker Mayfield fans....worst thing that could happen to that aforementioned group is Spam Darnold starting ahead of Bologna Mayfield. Of all people for Mayfield to lose a quarterback competition to...not Spam!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: I'm giddy about seeing what he gets for Becton. OMG!!!! Is there any thread you can’t drag Bectons name into? If you’re sitting around waiting to get giddy over a Becton trade I don’t know what to tell you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Is there any thread you can’t drag Bectons name into? If you’re sitting around waiting to get giddy over a Becton trade I don’t know what to tell you. Sometimes a picture says it best... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Is there any thread you can’t drag Bectons name into? If you’re sitting around waiting to get giddy over a Becton trade I don’t know what to tell you. Yep, the Zach Wilson threads!!! Waiting for the light to click on for Wilson. Waiting for Becton to turn off the light in the kitchen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And somehow Darnold was worse That's actually questionable The Browns games I watched, especially his last one, you had to wonder if Baker had become the NFL version of retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: That's actually questionable The Browns games I watched, especially his last one, you had to wonder if Baker had become the NFL version of retarded. He played with a shoulder injury, to his non throwing arm but injured and was better. Darnold sat out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 hours ago, jgb said: Who cares if Darnold is a good boy. Terrible QB. Mayfield has a whiff of upside. Darnold is a coach killer. Easiest choice in the world for Rhule. A coach killer? Even you can't blame him for getting Gase fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 12 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: The Master at work. Woody will extend Joe Douglas soon and make him the highest paid GM in the league. And it will be a steal cause hes worth 3 times that. Do you think they will wait until we have a winning season first? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: He played with a shoulder injury, to his non throwing arm but injured and was better. Darnold sat out Did his shoulder effect his brain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Did his shoulder effect his brain? Which non head injury affects someone’s brain? Darnold threw the same number of ints in fewer games. Brains are similar Neither QB is all that good. Both have shown to have lots of issues, it’s just that Baker has had moments, has made the playoffs, barely was beaten by KC in a game he played well in while Darnold only shining moment was a win against Dallas? I just think while neither has been the answer, Baker has been better and has more upside. I don’t doubt that he is starting in Carolina unless injured. We’re splitting hairs, it’s not a slam dunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Darnold is actually the perfect long term backup. He can come in and dump it off to CMC and possibly win a game. He needs to take a 80% payout tho. He’d fit in here with the monster ground game Joe has built. I’d welcome him back next year at Flacco money as Zach’s long term backup. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 11 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Hes a good kid. One day maybe he'll become a man. For now he's just a nice boy. Nice boys don't win QB competitions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Trotter said: This is probably an unfair stmt but rhule comes across as the type of guy you simply can’t trust. I Would not be surprised if he is working back channels to land back in college. I agree mayfield is starting barring injury. If it goes south quickly, I could see rhule bailing on these guys which would be ironic since he caused the chaos. It certainly wouldn't be the first time we've seen a former college coach quit the NFL scene in a shady and/or cowardly manner to get back to the collegiate ranks. Lou Holtz and Bobby Petrino are the first 2 that come to mind there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: A coach killer? Even you can't blame him for getting Gase fired. Even if you can't, Todd Bowles, Jeremy Bates and Joe Brady all say hello. And Rhule may well be next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Which non head injury affects someone’s brain? Darnold threw the same number of ints in fewer games. Brains are similar Neither QB is all that good. Both have shown to have lots of issues, it’s just that Baker has had moments, has made the playoffs, barely was beaten by KC in a game he played well in while Darnold only shining moment was a win against Dallas? I just think while neither has been the answer, Baker has been better and has more upside. I don’t doubt that he is starting in Carolina unless injured. Do I need to use a sarcasm emoji when responding to you or did you actually think I was being serious and needed your opinion on if a a non head injury effected his brain. My point t is Baker made some throws on a level of stupid that is rarely seen in the NFL. Go watch his last game he played for Cleveland. It was possibly the game where the front office said, it is time to cut bait. Being injured and making throws that are late os one thing but throwing to players that are in no way are open is not because your throwing arm is injured. Granted, Darnold is a bad QB to but who is worse IMO is debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: It certainly wouldn't be the first time we've seen a former college coach quit the NFL scene in a shady and/or cowardly manner to get back to the collegiate ranks. Lou Holtz and Bobby Petrino are the first 2 that come to mind there. Saban has them beat. Said he wasn’t leaving Miami and the next week announced he was going to Alabama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Just now, Jet Nut said: Saban has them beat. Said he wasn’t leaving Miami and the next week announced he was going to Alabama True. I only think of Holtz and Petrino ahead of Saban in the "cowardly/shady" group because Holtz didn't even last a full season, and Petrino left without even talking to his players, and instead left a note. The Falcons' players all openly called him a coward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 43 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: A coach killer? Even you can't blame him for getting Gase fired. OC count also. Putting Gase aside (who probably would’ve gotten another year if he “transformed” Darnold into a serviceable starter), Darnold has 2 OC and an HC scalp on his wall in 4 seasons. If that’s not a coach killer, what is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Even if you can't, Todd Bowles, Jeremy Bates and Joe Brady all say hello. And Rhule may well be next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Even if you can't, Todd Bowles, Jeremy Bates and Joe Brady all say hello. And Rhule may well be next. Jeremy Bates? The guy was walking in the woods for five years before the Jets hired him. I had hope for the guy, but that was nepotism city. His career achievements included Jay Cutler and making @Fred Jetstone happy in 2005. You forgot (the wrong) Johnny Morton from USC. Guy was what? Seven years removed from play calling duties? A career WR coach that Pete didn't take with him when he left USC. A regular Mount Rushmore of coaching - right up there with Lambeau and Lombardi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, jgb said: OC count also. Putting Gase aside (who probably would’ve gotten another year if he “transformed” Darnold into a serviceable starter), Darnold has 2 OC and an HC scalp on his wall in 4 seasons. If that’s not a coach killer, what is? 3 OC. I think only one has any potential to work in that capacity again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Do I need to use a sarcasm emoji when responding to you or did you actually think I was being serious and needed your opinion on if a a non head injury effected his brain. My point t is Baker made some throws on a level of stupid that is rarely seen in the NFL. Go watch his last game he played for Cleveland. It was possibly the game where the front office said, it is time to cut bait. Being injured and making throws that are late os one thing but throwing to players that are in no way are open is not because your throwing arm is injured. Granted, Darnold is a bad QB to but who is worse IMO is debatable. I have no idea why you get so pissed over a simple response. Given the complaint about Baker is mistake prone your brain remark didn’t sound sarcastic in any way. I responded and you’re defensive? I said they both are similar but Baker has upside. They threw the same # of INTs, Darnold in fewer games. That’s it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: 3 OC. I think only one has any potential to work in that capacity again. When Darnold kills a coach he stays dead! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: True. I only think of Holtz and Petrino ahead of Saban in the "cowardly/shady" group because Holtz didn't even last a full season, and Petrino left without even talking to his players, and instead left a note. The Falcons' players all openly called him a coward. Yeah, I was t thinking about Holtz running out in his first season. Or Patrinos note. Good call 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: I have no idea why you get so pissed over a simple response. Given the complaint about Baker is mistake prone your brain remark didn’t sound sarcastic in any way. I responded and you’re defensive? I said they both are similar but Baker has upside. They threw the same # of INTs, Darnold in fewer games. That’s it. Ok, so you think I'm a dumb ass who thinks an injury to your arm can effect your brain and needed you to explain that this can't happen. Is this what you are trying to say here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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