Drums Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Theater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunnie Posted August 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2022 Feels like that would be a tough haul for the league in court, denying Watson the ability to work for an indefinite period of time based on vibes.I dont think so .. he can go play in the CFL... if I sexually assaulted even 1 person i would be fired.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Drums said: Da fuq? Why does that matter What would the storyline be for that match-up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: My guess is that the 12 game offer ends up back on the table at some point before they get to the legal bloodshed stage. Guaranteed that they offered it to him over the last two days, and said it would stay on the table until the day the appeal is decided and not a second longer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Side note: You have to wonder if Houston PD or associated legal entities would reconsider pursuing charges against Watson, given how Robinson ruled on the case. Seems absurd that everyone is looking for a snake like Roger Goodell to be the one to make this right. Would you like me to tell you how that actually pans out or are you back on the wannabe Toobin thing 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Mogglez said: 2. Sue Robinson’s full report is pretty much the nail in the coffin for Deshaun. She fully admits that the NFL made their case, she believes he did what he is accused of, and that the only reason she gave the league a recommendation of 6 games is there is no set precedent. That is not the only reason she recommends 6. Along with precedent (which there is not any, regardless of what she claims), she also defines Watson’s actions as nonviolent, even though she acknowledges the women clearly went along with things because they were scared and felt unsafe. And also that Watson’s reputation was good prior to sexually assaulting god knows how many women. It’s important that this gets recognized, because I can promise you some of that, in some form, is what his lawyers argued in front of the grand jury. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted August 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Would you like me to tell you how that actually pans out or are you back on the wannabe Toobin thing I’m not going to masturbate on a zoom call with you, if that’s what you’re asking. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jets Things Posted August 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’m not going to masturbate on a zoom call with you, if that’s what you’re asking. Prude 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’m not going to masturbate on a zoom call with you, if that’s what you’re asking. *accidentally masturbate 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted August 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2022 Just now, RutgersJetFan said: *accidentally masturbate 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Doggin94it said: What would the storyline be for that match-up? Makes sense but wouldn't that be a storyline no matter what? Doesn't matter who they're playing. He had plenty of other drama with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Dunnie said: I dont think so .. he can go play in the CFL... if I sexually assaulted even 1 person i would be fired. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Didn’t the CFL and NFL agree that a player suspended by the NFL is barred from the CFL if he is under contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, jgb said: Didn’t the CFL and NFL agree that a player suspended by the NFL is barred from the CFL if he is under contract? Yes. Also, the odds that Watson would put his guaranteed 230M contract with the Browns at risk by potentially injuring himself in a different league and voiding his guarantees are absolute zero. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Yes. Also, the odds that Watson would put his guaranteed 230M contract with the Browns at risk by potentially injuring himself in a different league and voiding his guarantees are absolute zero.His choice ... sit and rot at home then .. collects his millions getting tugjobs from anyone he pleases ... browns suck for at least 10 years as a result. Not the NFLs problem the Browns are scum and made that deal. Thst co tract structured to essentially let him skate without losing a dime ... that's the part that makes it so hard to have any sympathy at all.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 At the end of the day, Watson is still screwed regardless because of the language in the CBA. But the NFL is never going to act in good faith when it comes to the personal conduct policy. They are still going to let optics and public outcry dictate their punishment and ignore the arbitrator decision if they don't like it. They are retroactive, not proactive. The judge literally told them this was a problem on their end, and they still choose to do it at the end of the day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 CBA has been great for League!! What say you ?Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Seems like it might be thar we don't see Watson anyway. One of the NFL guys said that Watson and the NFLPA agreed to the 6 games so thar starts regardless, but I think they can both respond to the NFL appeal and appeal theselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunnie Posted August 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2022 Seems like it might be thar we don't see Watson anyway. One of the NFL guys said that Watson and the NFLPA agreed to the 6 games so thar starts regardless, but I think they can both respond to the NFL appeal and appeal theselves.Personally I dont give a sh*t if we see him or not ... we beat him ... we are what the record says we are ... no hiding in cheap wins. Good teams dont do that.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Personally I dont give a sh*t of we see him or not ... we beat him ... we are what the record says we are ... no hiding in cheap wins. Good teams dont do that. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Don't either just pointing it out since it is not what one would expect 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Can someone smarter than I on this topic tell me why the organization is treating all cases as a violation rather that each case individually a violation of the conduct policy? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, PorP said: Can someone smarter than I on this topic tell me why the organization is treating all cases as a violation rather that each case individually a violation of the conduct policy? Its the legal system mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Its the legal system mentality. Well I can't speak to civil law. So with a grain of salt but.... But that is the opposite of the legal system. If I get 5 speeding tickets in a day, they don't group them together and assess fine / points based on the group. Each is individual with its own fine / points.... Hence why I asked the question in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 minute ago, PorP said: Well I can't speak to civil law. So with a grain of salt but.... But that is the opposite of the legal system. If I get 5 speeding tickets in a day, they don't group them together and assess fine / points based on the group. Each is individual with its own fine / points.... Hence why I asked the question in the first place. Person faces the following charges: 5 break and enters 5 possession of stolen property 1 breach of probation 1 possession of a prohibitive weapon 2 counts of assault 1 count of evading police Pleads guilty to simple assault and one count of possession of stolen property. Rubber stamped by the prosecutor and the judge. Happens ALL the time. Or the guy gets convicted of 5 rapes. The sentences are concurrent rather than consecutive, Happens all the time. Also re your tickets example even those are plead down regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Person faces the following charges: 5 break and enters 5 possession of stolen property 1 breach of probation 1 possession of a prohibitive weapon 2 counts of assault 1 count of evading police Pleads guilty to simple assault and one count of possession of stolen property. Rubber stamped by the prosecutor and the judge. Happens ALL the time. Or the guy gets convicted of 5 rapes. The sentences are concurrent rather than consecutive, Happens all the time. Also re your tickets example even those are plead down regularly. The other charges are dropped and don't go to court in lieu of the plea. But the theft and aussault are each treated as different crimes. Each with thier own sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, PorP said: The other charges are dropped and don't go to court in lieu of the plea. But the theft and aussault are each treated as different crimes. Each with thier own sentence. Also, if he / she are guilty. It's why the judge says... "For the c crime of xyz aussault I sentence you to 4 yeatss"... "for the crime of xyz theft I sentence you to 1 yr" Your talking about the plea's and negotiation that shape the charts that actually go to court. Not how charges are treated in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mogglez Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, King P said: He was was an advisor in the Zeke investigation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 In the end, isn't this still Goodell's decision? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post static14 Posted August 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2022 5 hours ago, PorP said: Well I can't speak to civil law. So with a grain of salt but.... But that is the opposite of the legal system. If I get 5 speeding tickets in a day, they don't group them together and assess fine / points based on the group. Each is individual with its own fine / points.... Hence why I asked the question in the first place. Now we know two things. Watson is a dirtbag and you're a horrible driver. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, section314 said: In the end, isn't this still Goodell's decision? No. Goodell appointed a designee, which means it's entirely that designee's decision. Harvey's call entirely, and the NFL will have to live with whatever he decides. But he has to work from the premise that Watson was guilty; that's not up for review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, static14 said: Now we know two things. Watson is a dirtbag and you're a horrible driver. Nothing to see here.... keep it moving 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 9 hours ago, King P said: At the end of the day, Watson is still screwed regardless because of the language in the CBA. But the NFL is never going to act in good faith when it comes to the personal conduct policy. They are still going to let optics and public outcry dictate their punishment and ignore the arbitrator decision if they don't like it. They are retroactive, not proactive. The judge literally told them this was a problem on their end, and they still choose to do it at the end of the day. Both the NFLPA and the NFL are allowed under the CBA to appeal the decision within 3 days. The NFL wanted to suspend him indefinitely, judge said 6 games so the NFL appealed. How is that considered retroactive? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 17 hours ago, Doggin94it said: No. Goodell appointed a designee, which means it's entirely that designee's decision. Harvey's call entirely, and the NFL will have to live with whatever he decides. But he has to work from the premise that Watson was guilty; that's not up for review So Harvey can shorten, lengthen or leave the original decision unchanged and that's it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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k-met57 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: and now we know why he chose cleveland... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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