Joe Willie White Shoes Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/5/2022 at 7:34 AM, JTJet said: This list is dumb. There has been little news about Whitehead. Kwon has been at camp like 1 day. Bacon may have a new attitude, but still getting ran over by everyone on the D. That's because you base everything on tweets from the beat writers, who are idiots and who don't care about anything other than click bait. The OP seems to be basing his list on what he has seen, not what he has read. Big difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/5/2022 at 7:09 AM, JTJet said: I've been calling him Bacon for a little over the year at this point. Until his ass gets out there and proves us all wrong, he is Bacon. Nope...this guy is Bacon...and been cooked real good... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 I discounted the Kwon Alexander signing slightly due to the fact - as the article stated- he’s never played more than 12 games in a season due to constant injuries. Perhaps he’s learned how to maintain his body now for the NFL rigors and can actually be a reliable consistent contributor, dare I even say starter, that is currently missing from the LB corps sans CJ Moseley. Alexander’s experience as a pro and in this scheme should only Strengthen what’s regarded our weakest defensive unit. Alexander can hopefully be that sneaky under the radar veteran signing which turns out to be a steal due to how his experience materially improves the defense - similar to signing LB Bryan Cox in ‘98 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 No Tim Ward? Trash list 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/5/2022 at 8:09 AM, JTJet said: I've been calling him Bacon for a little over the year at this point. Until his ass gets out there and proves us all wrong, he is Bacon. He’s already proven you wrong. You want him to prove you wrong again? Then what you’ll admit you don’t have a clue? And it’s you. Not “all of us” who confused an injury with being fat and lazy because it’s just funny to high five each other over fat jokes like calling Becton “bacon”. Witty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 13 hours ago, jetstream23 said: There's a chance this defense takes a big step forward. The talent on the field this year will be night-and-day different from last season, as much as 50% different in the starting lineup. Last year's group had a notable ceiling simply because of the lack of talent on the D. Carl Lawson is back, Jordan Whitehead at S looking good, Kwon Alexander upgrading a subpar LB group, DJ Reed at CB, and 1st round talents in Sauce Gardner and Jermaine Johnson. On paper, huge potential for this group if they can figure out how to play together well. And this doesn't include some other good players like Quinnen, JFM, etc. I think the defense is going to take a giant step forward this year. Talent really will be night and day. Saw a blurb that PFF had the Jets DL as a top ten sack group. I believe it. That DL rotation that people were complaining about? That’s gonna be a major positive when the Jets have fresh legs on the field all game long chasing after the QB. And as you allude to, it’s gonna be a lot different in the secondary, too. Sauce looks like the real deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: He’s already proven you wrong. You want him to prove you wrong again? Then what you’ll admit you don’t have a clue? And it’s you. Not “all of us” who confused an injury with being fat and lazy because it’s just funny to high five each other over fat jokes like calling Becton “bacon”. Witty He hasnt proven anyone wrong until he proves it through a game. There was never any confusion, not once. Two things can be true at once. He was injured AND fat and lazy, which led to a couple week injury costing him a season and his starting position we drafted him for. Is he on the right track NOW, maybe, but we wont know that until game day. Were on turn 4, dont take your victory lap yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, JTJet said: He hasnt proven anyone wrong until he proves it through a game. There was never any confusion, not once. Two things can be true at once. He was injured AND fat and lazy, which led to a couple week injury costing him a season and his starting position we drafted him for. Is he on the right track NOW, maybe, but we wont know that until game day. Were on turn 4, dont take your victory lap yet. You called him fat. He’s not fat. You called him lazy. He’s not lazy You guys said he won’t play. He’s playing. Well How much more wrong could you guys be to this point? Enough to move the goalposts I guess. Show some humility and admit you were wrong and be happy for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: You called him fat. He’s not fat. You called him lazy. He’s not lazy You guys said he won’t play. He’s playing. Well How much more wrong could you guys be to this point? Enough to move the goalposts I guess. Show some humility and admit you were wrong and be happy for it Nah I'll just keep doing exactly what I've been doing. Never moved the goalposts, not once. They have been the same expectations since he was drafted. You and I are reading two vastly different accounts of Becton during training camp. Theres been no indication he has been playing "well", everything I've read indicates he has been getting abused by Carl Lawson all over again just like last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 31 minutes ago, JTJet said: Nah I'll just keep doing exactly what I've been doing. Never moved the goalposts, not once. They have been the same expectations since he was drafted. You and I are reading two vastly different accounts of Becton during training camp. Theres been no indication he has been playing "well", everything I've read indicates he has been getting abused by Carl Lawson all over again just like last year. when has gotten abused by Lawson? Lol, you’re making it up now. You’ve defined moving the goal posts. im reading things like this: by Jim Cerny August 4, 2022 at 9:58 AM PT Two weeks into 2022 New York Jets training camp, several players have stood out on both sides of the ball, some more surprising than others. Wide receiver Elijah Moore has been electrifying. Defensive linemen Carl Lawson and Quinnen Williams have been monsters. Veteran backup quarterback Joe Flacco is drawing raves. And rookies Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson have not only fit right in, they’ve stood out with their solid play. Some of these standouts are to be expected, others not as much. That said, let’s take a look at some of the pleasant surprises on this Jets roster so far in camp. No. 1: Mekhi Becton That Mekhi Becton is in such excellent shape and drawing rave reviews from coaches and teammates is likely the biggest surprise in Jets training camp, at least so far. Of course, that expectations were so low for Becton heading into camp really should be the bigger surprise. He’s an athletic freak, with massive size (6-foot-7, 365 pounds), quick feet and brute strength. And he was a first-round pick in the 2020 NFL Draft. But he has been injury prone his first two seasons and played only one game because of a knee injury in 2021. Rumors abounded that he was out of shape, perhaps over 400 pounds late last season and into the offseason. “Lazy” and “fat” were more often used to describe Becton than, say, “stud.” Saleh didn’t seem thrilled with Becton’s conditioning level at minicamp, though he chose his words very carefully. Becton, though, surprised most by arriving at training camp in terrific shape and in a very positive state of mind. He readily accepted a change to right tackle and, by all accounts, has excelled on the field during team drills and 11-on-11s. It’s still early, but Becton seems on the way to fulfilling his goal of making his critics “eat their words” about him this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewGuyJet Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 29 minutes ago, JTJet said: Nah I'll just keep doing exactly what I've been doing. Never moved the goalposts, not once. They have been the same expectations since he was drafted. You and I are reading two vastly different accounts of Becton during training camp. Theres been no indication he has been playing "well", everything I've read indicates he has been getting abused by Carl Lawson all over again just like last year. Doesn't everyone get abused by Carl Lawson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 57 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Saleh didn’t seem thrilled with Becton’s conditioning level at minicamp, though he chose his words very carefully. You're selectively choosing what you hear. Everything you're reading about Saleh and his teammates saying glowing things are the things they are supposed to say. Truly, what else are they going to say in those interviews? He didnt change that much between minicamp and training camp. And then theres these... 7/27 @RichCimini Mekhi Becton has been laboring through the early portion of practice (OL drills). Took a knee off to the side. #Jets 7/28 @jetswhispers Becton down on one knee on the sidelines talking to a doctor 7/28 @Connor_J_Hughes Third-down period begins with two Bryce Huff sacks, his first of summer. He came right around Becton both times #Jets 7/28 @ZackBlatt Zach Wilson would’ve been sacked on three different plays in third down 11-on-11, twice by Bryce Huff and once by Vinny Curry. Mekhi Becton beat on all three 7/30 @ZackBlatt Zach Wilson wouldve just been sacked on back to back to back plays by Jacob Martin, Jonathan Franklin-Myers and Bryce Huff. Beat the right side of the OL all three times. First team offense. 7/30 @Connor_J_Hughes A player the coaches seem to like a lot: Jacob Martin. He just beat Becton for would-be sack of Wilson 7/31 @Connor_J_Hughes Tim Ward beats Becton for a sack after two short completions from Wilson 7/31 @Connor_J_Hughes The #Jets ran an unscripted drive-the-field drill. It didn’t go well for the first-team offense. - Carter ran for no gain. - Wilson dirted it with pressure in his face - Lawson beat Becton for a sack ... That's what 10 sacks allowed in a couple days? Maybe we just have different expectations of the guy, idk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, JTJet said: You're selectively choosing what you hear. Everything you're reading about Saleh and his teammates saying glowing things are the things they are supposed to say. Truly, what else are they going to say in those interviews? He didnt change that much between minicamp and training camp. And then theres these... 7/27 @RichCimini Mekhi Becton has been laboring through the early portion of practice (OL drills). Took a knee off to the side. #Jets 7/28 @jetswhispers Becton down on one knee on the sidelines talking to a doctor 7/28 @Connor_J_Hughes Third-down period begins with two Bryce Huff sacks, his first of summer. He came right around Becton both times #Jets 7/28 @ZackBlatt Zach Wilson would’ve been sacked on three different plays in third down 11-on-11, twice by Bryce Huff and once by Vinny Curry. Mekhi Becton beat on all three 7/30 @ZackBlatt Zach Wilson wouldve just been sacked on back to back to back plays by Jacob Martin, Jonathan Franklin-Myers and Bryce Huff. Beat the right side of the OL all three times. First team offense. 7/30 @Connor_J_Hughes A player the coaches seem to like a lot: Jacob Martin. He just beat Becton for would-be sack of Wilson 7/31 @Connor_J_Hughes Tim Ward beats Becton for a sack after two short completions from Wilson 7/31 @Connor_J_Hughes The #Jets ran an unscripted drive-the-field drill. It didn’t go well for the first-team offense. - Carter ran for no gain. - Wilson dirted it with pressure in his face - Lawson beat Becton for a sack ... That's what 10 sacks allowed in a couple days? Maybe we just have different expectations of the guy, idk. Tweets from mostly fans. Lawson abusing him when? The Cimini tweet was pure desperation. We’ve been through this, players go out on rotation and kneel on the sideline. Chitmini started his pissy match with. Elton right there. connor Hugh’s said e sacks came from the right side. Didn’t say Bectons man. You’re telling me if it was Bectons man he wouldn’t have mentioned it? Not a chance he wouldn’t have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Tweets tell fans. Lawson abusing him when? Lol and now who's moving goalposts? Honestly, I was finding so much ammunition I just decided to give up searching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, JTJet said: Lol and now who's moving goalposts? Honestly, I was finding so much ammunition I just decided to give up searching. Yes, your right, it’s not you. You’ve gone from he’s a fat lazy POS and when he showed up in shape playing well it then became let’s see him prove it in Sept. that’s not moving the goalposts. I fell like shlt, going through a 2nd bout of COVID, I’m done helping you make yourself look silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Yes, your right, it’s not you. You’ve gone from he’s a fat lazy POS and when he showed up in shape playing well it then became let’s see him prove it in Sept. that’s not moving the goalposts. I fell like shlt, going through a 2nd bout of COVID, I’m done helping you make yourself look silly You keep coming at this from a point of "hes been playing well" Yet I just showed you that he has been treated like a turnstyle for no less than 10 sacks in like a week of practice. If that isnt enough for you, you're hopeless. Hope you get over covid, and I'm sorry I embarrassed you while you're sick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I don't believe sh*t about Becton until I see it for a full uninterrupted season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 19 hours ago, slats said: I think the defense is going to take a giant step forward this year. Talent really will be night and day. Saw a blurb that PFF had the Jets DL as a top ten sack group. I believe it. That DL rotation that people were complaining about? That’s gonna be a major positive when the Jets have fresh legs on the field all game long chasing after the QB. And as you allude to, it’s gonna be a lot different in the secondary, too. Sauce looks like the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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