varjet Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, choon328 said: The dude was pushing 400 lbs all year till about 2 months ago and he's probably only down to 370. This was bound to happen. Unless he loses 50lbs, I'm not sure how he ever gets on the field again. NFL games are won and lost in large part in the off season. It was lunacy to expect a guy who was grossly out of shape until June do a crash course and try and get it for late July camp. His body was never going to adapt or get in the right conditioning. Everything was weaker because he basically did not eat for the last 6 weeks. We own him on a guaranteed contract through 2023. We might as well keep trying to fundamentally change his body and conditioning and try and use him, now as a swing T next year. Maybe we can get a comp pick. The Jets will never invest in his. But on the flip side, if we want to raise cap space by trading Corey Davis, let someone have him and play Mims. Maybe Mims can salvage that class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, freestater said: He thought he was smarter than everybody else and picked this scrub instead of Wirfs. He deserves the criticism. Anybody still trying to massage that pick into "the right decision at the time" needs to give it up. Wirfs was the pick, and the o-line expert set us back by at least one high pick and two ******* years with his little experiment. No he drafted for his HC.... Gase... I wanted Wirfs too.. But all those picks are not 100% on JD... it was on Gase as well. Plus he has proven his worth after that draft. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, freestater said: Anything to promote the notion that Joe Douglas is infallible and every decision he makes eventually works out. It's like a disease.... Neg rep me all you want @Skeptable. As the time rolls on, you look more like a credulous fool, trying to justify JD's 400lb mistake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Over under on 425 pounds after Thanksgiving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, freestater said: How the **** does JD get away without having to answer for this absolutely abysmal reach of a pick. I've never heard a beat reporter take him to task on this. Incredible. You know why... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, Skeptable said: No he drafted for his HC.... Gase... I wanted Wirfs too.. But all those picks are not 100% on JD... it was on Gase as well. This is laughable at this point. Such incredible naivete in the face of overwhelming evidence just looks foolish. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, freestater said: Neg rep me all you want @Skeptable. As the time rolls on, you look more like a credulous fool, trying to justify JD's 400lb mistake. First draft .... since then... MC, MC2, Hall, Moore, Wilson, Wilson, Clemons, JJ, AVT, etc etc... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, LionelRichie said: Over under on 425 pounds after Thanksgiving If he’s seriously hurt, it doesn’t matter anymore because the jets have to move on But slightly over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, Skeptable said: First draft .... since then... MC, MC2, Hall, Moore, Wilson, Wilson, Clemons, JJ, AVT, etc etc... Doesn't excuse you carrying water for huge mistakes. You look ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: I pray that he's either really good, or really bad. God help us if he's smack dab in between. Agree 100% We don’t need another “Darnold” type situation not sure about a young QB going into year 3 again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: ? This pretty much ends up being Brown signing tonight or tomorrow. And the fan base can calm down 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, JetPotato said: This is very Jets. And to those of you celebrating or laughing, GO F YO SELF I don’t think any of us are celebrating, but some of us could see this sh*t coming from a mile away while everyone else wanted to bury their heads in the sand. There’s still a part of this fanbase who refuse to acknowledge that this f*cking guy was overweight during the offseason. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dunnie said: . .... minor setback ... @Skeptable 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, freestater said: Doesn't excuse you carrying water for huge mistakes. You look ridiculous. A mistake in his first year in GM doesn't define his whole career 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, Skeptable said: A mistake in his first year in GM doesn't define his whole career Maybe. But trying to justify that mistake endlessly can define a poster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Is Great Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 The Jets found the football version of Kristaps Porzingis. Too big and too fragile. I've been positive and patient with Becton but I would not be surprised if he never plays another down for us. I mentioned in the scrimmage thread that Becton looked like he couldn't even move during warm-ups and stretching. He was either not healthy or not in shape or simply lazy. I don't know, but it stood out to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: ? A "chunk" of 2022 is in jeopardy? The way this news is sounding, I'll be happy if he plays any of this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, freestater said: Maybe. But trying to justify that mistake endlessly can define a poster. I am not justifying his mistake... I said he should have drafted Wirfs... Thats who I wanted... and all his mistakes in his first year... move on.... since then he has been the best GM this franchise has seen in 20 years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pac Posted August 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2022 If it was going to happen its better that it did now and not next month. Not sure i understand the Becton hate.. he may have been a bad pick but he was never an ass hole or did anything illegal.. he is just injury prone. Tough break hope he gets past this even if his tenure with the Jets is over. 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Skeptable said: No he drafted for his HC.... Gase... I wanted Wirfs too.. But all those picks are not 100% on JD... it was on Gase as well. Plus he has proven his worth after that draft. We know this to be untrue. Gase actually had talent for finding O Linemen. He helped draft Laremy Tunsil. So we know the Becton pick wasnt on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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freestater Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, AFJF said: @Skeptable ridiculous notions deserve ridicule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, Pac said: If it was going to happen its better that it did now and not next month. Not sure i understand the Becton hate.. he may have been a bad pick but he was never an ass hole or did anything illegal.. he just is injury prone. Tough break hope he gets past this even if his tenure with the Jets is over. So many JD haters and Becton haters love this tonight... They won something I think... Thats how I understand it.. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: Over under on 425 pounds after Thanksgiving Dude is never stepping on the field for the Jets again. So he can get as fat as he wants for all I care 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, Skeptable said: So many JD haters and Becton haters love this tonight... They won something I think... Thats how I understand it.. Its called reality. Something you're clearly unfamiliar with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pac said: If it was going to happen its better that it did now and not next month. Not sure i understand the Becton hate.. he may have been a bad pick but he was never an ass hole or did anything illegal.. he just is injury prone. Tough break hope he gets past this even if his tenure with the Jets is over. I guess the question is would he be so Injury prone if he was 50 lbs lighter year round ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Weak AF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, Untouchable said: I mean…what else was he supposed to do? Stick with Darnold, who clearly sucks at this point? Is anyone thrilled with Trey Lance or Justin Fields so far? Would anyone really want to hitch their wagon to a physically limited gamemanager like Mac Jones for the foreseeable future? Zach may not end up panning out, but I’ll never fault Douglas for that one. I was half-joking. I like Zach a lot. Work ethic is there, and he loves football. It would be unfathomable for him to get into any real off the field trouble. Just a great kid. I have a lot of doubts about his ability though. As far as what I would've done, taken the offer the 49’ers gave to Miami. Brought in a solid journeyman like Minshew until the right rookie QB was available, and continued to build up the rest of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Not surprising yet still very disheartening. Jets will trade for OT depth or see what tough decisions other teams have to make in TC cuts and Jets can scour the waiver wire. par for the course 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, LionelRichie said: I guess the question is would he be so I just prone if he was 50 lbs lighter year round ? Will Fuller weighs about as much as Rhea Perlman and he twists ankles taking out the garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, freestater said: Its called reality. Something you're clearly unfamiliar with. Reality of what? You cheering an injury to a team you like? That you think you are justified in saying that JD put together a horrible team and he is a horrible GM because he addressed all the other issues on the team hoping that his 11th pick in his first draft would try and not get injured... I fail to see what you think is reality in your mind? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Saul Goodman said: I was half-joking. I like Zach a lot. Work ethic is there, and he loves football. It would be unfathomable for him to get into any real off the field trouble. Just a great kid. I have a lot of doubts about his ability though. As far as what I would've done, taken the offer the 49’ers gave to Miami. Brought in a solid journeyman like Minshew until the right rookie QB was available, and continued to build up the rest of the team. No credible source has ever said there was an offer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, Skeptable said: Reality of what? You cheering an injury to a team you like? That you think you are justified in saying that JD put together a horrible team and he is a horrible GM because he address all the other issues on the team hoping that his 11th pick in his first draft would try and not get injured... I fail to see what you think is reality in your mind? I'm saying the o-line expert sucks at drafting tackles. The evidence would bear that out. Unless you're deluded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGreen Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Brown is 37. Not loving thisNot loving it either, but what’s the alternative? Chuma? I’d rather not see them go that route. We all know how that ends. Brown is at the very least capable at his age and so far reliable. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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