92ShaunEllis92 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’m saying that Saleh has to realize he’s no longer the peppy, camera-friendly assistant coach of an incredibly talented defense in San Francisco, and he’s now the head coach of a crappy organization that has been a meat-grinder for the careers of once-promising head coaching candidates 100% Saleh has DONE NOTHING to instill confidence that he’s not in over his head. It was PAINFULLY obvious during his PCs after losses that he was just beaten down and had no answers. As a fan, I want him to succeed as Jets HC, but nothing last year has indicated he’s the man to get the job done. Hope I’m wrong. Lol. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 So first time it was a dislocation and now a fracture of the same kneecap? What is this, some kind of strange voodoo by Dan Campbell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Skeptable said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, derp said: The Pats don’t draft that well on an individual pick basis, but they do an awesome job accumulating picks and obviously the coaching staff does a good job. Yes, they all cheat and can pass a lie detector test. Skillz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, Hal N of Provo said: Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Not to dismiss the rest of your post, but I think this part perfectly captures what we’re currently in disagreement about. When you say “most reports,” you’re referring to quotes directly from the coaching staff, all about a player who was pretty clearly not looking good, was not in shape, and had to go on a crash diet to get that weight “under control.” That's fair and maybe I wasn't aware of how bad his conditioning was, but what I heard prior to camp was worrisome. Once he arrived it sounded much better. He was playing every drill and every snap. There were reports of him puking one day during one of the hottest practices, but he didn't miss time so we can interpret that however we want. I was under the impression that camp was going okay for him despite the concerns around the mini-camp timeframe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ID. Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 hours ago, The Crusher said: Ever time I poop I get the sensation of floating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 We should’ve traded this guy when we had the chance. This happens to us every ******* year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 55 minutes ago, ZachEY said: I guess I’m just not a believer that discipline works in any meaningful way at this stage of life. I think by now, if you’re a dog (not to be confused with dawg), you’re a dog, and going in timeout isn’t going to much to change that. Could have cut him, I guess, but I’m not sure how that benefitted the team. E, can you expand on this a little bit? I’m interested in the thought that discipline, particularly in a team setting, might not ultimately be effective. As you know, my archetypal head coach was Bill Parcells, and his m.o. was all about discipline, cutting the head off the snake, etc, so my point of reference might be clearly outdated. Obviously, the Shanahans and McVays of the world are doing it differently, but I’m presuming that they do some sort of coercion to keep 53 players all in line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: So first time it was a dislocation and now a fracture of the same kneecap? What is this, some kind of strange voodoo by Dan Campbell? First reports were of a kneecap and patella injury, but later tests showed it was a pinky toe contusion. A second opinion cleared things up and confirmed that it's just a chipped tooth from eating a candy bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: E, can you expand on this a little bit? I’m interested in the thought that discipline, particularly in a team setting, might not ultimately be effective. As you know, my archetypal head coach was Bill Parcells, and his m.o. was all about discipline, cutting the head off the snake, etc, so my point of reference might be clearly outdated. Obviously, the Shanahans and McVays of the world are doing it differently, but I’m presuming that they do some sort of coercion to keep 53 players all in line. Parcells putting an empty gas can in front of Brian Cox's locker before a game with a note that said, "I hear Cox doesn't have anything left in the tank," was one of the great motivational Parcells stories that I still tell people on occasion. He was a master. Whether he had become a football coach or if he ended up managing a McDonald's the guy was going to get his team to perform. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: That's fair and maybe I wasn't aware of how bad his conditioning was, but what I heard prior to camp was worrisome. Once he arrived it sounded much better. He was playing every drill and every snap. There were reports of him puking one day during one of the hottest practices, but he didn't miss time so we can interpret that however we want. I was under the impression that camp was going okay for him despite the concerns around the mini-camp timeframe. Might be some confirmation bias on my part, but the reports I was reading seemingly every day said that he was getting cooked for sacks at a pretty high frequency. The most complimentary thing I read about him was that he was “improving” with each practice, but then the knee brace appeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Someone needs to ask this guy what dose of motivation and discipline was required to prevent Becton's kneecap from slipping out of place again. Serious-minded people on this forum need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Obviously, a fractured kneecap means he didn't condition well enough. Horrible news 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Woke up on the couch and saw that Bex will miss "significant time" on ESPN. I was wrong earlier. I said we'd find out that he'll be out for the year in a day or two. Nice work by the medical staff confirming it sooner. Done. See ya, big guy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Didn't the knee brace just appear in the past week? If so, why? Is there a chance it made things worse and caused the injury? He was apparently fiddling with it, adjusting it and limping a bit in practice before the injury? If that's true then the Jets medical staff has a lot to discuss about how he was being handled leading up to this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I was thinking of you when I was writing this, actually, because you talk about organizational dynamics every now and again. What are your thoughts about leading a group where maybe there are some employees that aren’t self-starters? Ideally, they aren’t any on my team. I weed them out in the hiring process. When I inherit them, I pretty much tailor their professional development plan to this building up the weakness. Getting them reps at seeking and owning small chunks of work in between the majority of the work being delegated to them. I want people bringing ideas to me and giving me a reason to pave the way for them. Not asking me what to do next. The biggest red flag is when they become exasperated and feel they deserve advancement-type recognition for doing anything above just handling the assignments I give them. That’s 100% someone that can turn toxic quickly. Not sure if it parallels to this, but more to the specific point about Saleh. Until now he’s been a ‘lead’, someone with authority and a role in strategy, but still in the trenches with the team. Like Rex and many before him, he needs to become a manager/director capable of not being ‘one of the guys’. In short, at some point you climb high enough where you don’t go to the after party from the company outing. You can be likable and decent as a boss, but you have to acknowledge the line. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Might be some confirmation bias on my part, but the reports I was reading seemingly every day said that he was getting cooked for sacks at a pretty high frequency. The most complimentary thing I read about him was that he was “improving” with each practice, but then the knee brace appeared. This year and last. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: So first time it was a dislocation and now a fracture of the same kneecap? What is this, some kind of strange voodoo by Dan Campbell? Just unbelievable. Leave it to the Jets to draft a guy who gets injuries that warrant updating medical texts. What a fukkin' team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, T0mShane said: E, can you expand on this a little bit? I’m interested in the thought that discipline, particularly in a team setting, might not ultimately be effective. As you know, my archetypal head coach was Bill Parcells, and his m.o. was all about discipline, cutting the head off the snake, etc, so my point of reference might be clearly outdated. Obviously, the Shanahans and McVays of the world are doing it differently, but I’m presuming that they do some sort of coercion to keep 53 players all in line. Accountability is far more important than discipline. Discipline is just a very rudimentary way of establishing it. You can have accountability without being a hard-o. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Holy ****! Becton played his last snap as a Jet In other news I have friend who is a Seahawks fan and he said that Brown looked done last season, may the football gods have mercy on us 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Dude chipped his knee on a play where there wasn’t even any contact with his leg. He’s eaten so many Butterfingers while playing GTA Online that his kneecaps have taken on the same consistency. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Okay, off to bed. I hope to dream of a gargantuan black man with rubber knees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: Obviously, a fractured kneecap means he didn't condition well enough. Horrible news It does? This seems like an outcome of him being enormous but does it matter if he's at 360 instead of 390lbs? - it'd be an enormous amount of weight and force on it no matter what as he's just a huge dude. I am now worried for him that the knee might just be done. He had so long for it to heal and strengthen... So lame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Chip in his knee cap? Chip? Potato Chip? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I know Becton's been really disappointing, but honestly I feel really bad for him. The dude's been working really hard to rehab and it all just went down the drain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Phuck this dude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted August 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, freestater said: BTW...isn't it amazing that even the Big Bust apologists automatically accept that he's pretty much done for the year? Lol, tells you all you need to know. Dude let me tell you all you need to know. Knock it off. For someone who reports a lot of posts, you shouldn't be celebrating just because a Jets player got hurt. You called it? Great. People are allowed to root for the Jets here so that is great that you are Nostradamus. But the victory lap at the expense of other fans? Not going to happen. 7 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Didn't the knee brace just appear in the past week? If so, why? Is there a chance it made things worse and caused the injury? He was apparently fiddling with it, adjusting it and limping a bit in practice before the injury? If that's true then the Jets medical staff has a lot to discuss about how he was being handled leading up to this. Duke had responded saying on Twitter that it was a precautionary measure that Mehki would wear moving forward. Connor said Becton appeared to get his toe caught and then took the push in the chest (which on the video looks awful, but I couldn't tell about the toe from it). Seems like confluence of bad luck with toe getting caught, huge weight he carries and his knee that probably carries a higher risk of injury given surgery (as manifested by the precautionary brace)... But if that's the case, the guy is an injury time bomb? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Dude is a pussy, get rid of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Do the Jets practice tomorrow? I’d much prefer to move on to another good practice from the MILF Hunter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Hex said: I know Becton's been really disappointing, but honestly I feel really bad for him. The dude's been working really hard to rehab and it all just went down the drain. Give me a break. He's a multi-millionaire and most likely hasn't played enough to be in danger of developing CTE. Worse case scenario, a knee can be replaced. He'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 https://sicscore.com/nfl/updates/mekhi-becton-out-for-season-with-right-knee-injury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, RJIII said: Dude is a pussy, get rid of him. Tough guy over here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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