Jets sign Duane Brown

[Paradis]

"We're on to Brown.."

-Jets

[Ecuadorian Jet]

You know we have been mistreated as a fandom when we get super happy and surprised when management does the logical right thing. 

[slats]

7 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

22 mil for a 37 year old.....

Imagine if Mac had done this....lol

You guys really do have JD sunglasses on

 

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Yet, the Jets signed Brown, presumably, to start, and there are only 24 OTs in the league making more than $11M/year. It’s really not a bad contract for a guy who made the pro bowl last season, especially given the Jets tackle situation ten minutes before he signed. 

[FidelioJet]

26 minutes ago, PorP said:

Maybe we can pontificate for the next year on why brown got 2 years and what the means for Fant / Mitchell....?

So next year we're not faced with the same dilemma trying to find a back up T.

If Mitchell grows - he can start.  If not they can draft another T or sign a high ticket FA - or if they let Fant walk etc.. 

Ultimately having Brown next year gives the Jet far more options.

 if JD gave Moses a bit more money and got a two year deal he would be in better shape right now.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

8 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

22 mil for a 37 year old.....

Imagine if Mac had done this....lol

You guys really do have JD sunglasses on

how long have you been following the NFL

unless it's "22M fully guaranteed", that number is meaningless

[FidelioJet]

I do, although, think for that money he moves to RT.  Might have had to pay a bit more for that reason alone.

I would be surprised if he doesn't.

[shuler82]

39 minutes ago, PorP said:

I don't know how to do the fancy tweety posty thing..

But FWIW. Connor tweeted that brown had choices with playoff contenders and chose the jets.... he said he thinks it says a lot about Saleh's culture. 

The Jets are a playoff contender. 

[Barry McCockinner]

muh cap space

[mrcoops]

41 minutes ago, CSNY said:

Although I was initially against signing Brandon Shell given the recent developments he should be signed as a backup Would be a upgrade over Edoga and McDermott for sure as we wait until Mitchell is ready to start which hopefully is soon 

Indeed. Jets thought they needed a veteran backup Tackle before Becton got hurt, so they still need a veteran backup Tackle now.

I'd bring in Shell too, who has played both sides at times in the NFL. He's at least low-tier starter calibre, which Edoga and McDermott absolutely are not.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

8 minutes ago, DoubleDecker said:

While price may seem high, if it allows Zach this upcoming season to stay on target development wise, no one is gonna give a f*** at  by the end of the season!  Hope springs eternal though....

Had to be done, for multiple reasons.

1) Keep any semblance of hope alive for '22 season

2) Keep your supposed franchise QB out of the ER

[Saul Goodman]

Should’ve signed him sooner (could’ve signed him to a less expensive deal months ago), but better late than never. 

Wonder how this will affect negotiations with Fant. He’s going to want a bigger contract than what Brown just got. 

OT will be a priority for next year’s draft regardless. 

[Joe W. Namath]

Is this a Joe Douglas "2 year deal that we can cut the player after 1 year w/o any penalty" deal?

That would be beautiful!

[FidelioJet]

Just now, shuler82 said:

The Jets are a playoff contender. 

Yeah, Connor Hughes is a very negative beat writer. 

The Jets are absolutely a playoff contender.  With Brown being here - it'll really come down to two things - Health and ZW.  But if they stay healthy and ZW takes a solid step (not massive) the Jets will absolutely be in the playoff mix in Dec.

[David Harris]

36 minutes ago, KRL said:

Worthless to bring up PFF stats with Brown last year:

- First of all Wilson missed a ton of games and was replaced by Smith (that will affect sack numbers)

- Second, did SEA run the same blocking scheme that we do.  How did that affect his sack numbers

Agree with PFF and point one.

Point 2 - pass blocking is fairly uniform.  Zone blocking is for the run game.

[kevinc855]

9 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

It’s a pivotal year for our young franchise QB.

And I sure as sh*t don’t want to see Chuma Edoga as an opening day starter.

Who cares what they spent to make it happen? It’s not coming out of my pocket.

nothing but quite the different tune all of a sudden 

[More Cowbell]

58 minutes ago, NYSportsKing said:

Interesting to note it's a 2 year deal. Wonder about the details of that and if Jets have an out after this year or if Brown will compete for a starting spot in 2023 as well.

Was probably a condition for him to sign. Wonder how much he is being paid.

[Lith]

32 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

Ouch

Curious to see the structure.  That is a lot of coin, but could be a significant amount of non-guaranteed base in year 2.

[FidelioJet]

Some of you guys put far too much weight into the salary cap.

Yes, it's important for sure.  But we still have no superstar that's going to require $30mm a year any time soon.

Cap can be manipulated year in and year out ----- we've led the league in cap space for like the past 5 years.

It's time to win games and deal with the cap when you have to - be smart but don't build scared!

 

[slats]

2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Is this a Joe Douglas "2 year deal that we can cut the player after 1 year w/o any penalty" deal?

That would be beautiful!

Doubtful, as they had less than $9M in cap space before this signing. More likely that he’s just on the roster next year. Whether as a starter or backup will remain to be seen. 

[David Harris]

14 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

22 mil for a 37 year old.....

Imagine if Mac had done this....lol

You guys really do have JD sunglasses on

JD has earned trust.

It's a lot of money but the multi-billion dollar Jets organization all depends on whether Zach Wilson gets shell-shocked. 

Do everything to protect the young QB. 

[Skeptable]

6 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

Indeed. Jets thought they needed a veteran backup Tackle before Becton got hurt, so they still need a veteran backup Tackle now.

I'd bring in Shell too, who has played both sides at times in the NFL. He's at least low-tier starter calibre, which Edoga and McDermott absolutely are not.

They brought in 2

[tommyduhamelshouse]

Would have paid him double based on need.

[#27TheDominator]

It will be interesting who plays right or left.  I always kind of thought of Fant more as an LT than RT, but Brown certainly has the better CV.  They played together in Seattle and I think Seattle traded for Brown the year that Fant got hurt in camp (2017).  The last time Brown missed any time, it was Fant that took his spot. 

From a continuation standpoint there are positives to keeping Fant at LT, but maybe not as much as we are initially thinking.  I think that they started last season with Becton at LT and AVT at LG.  With Tomlinson they will be flipping AVT to RG, so if Fant is that one that moves, he will be moving but staying next to AVT.  On the other hand, that will mean that 4 of the 5 positions will be different than last season and I think we all know how long it took for everybody to mesh.    

Should be interesting.

[Lith]

 

[ZachEY]

20 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

22 mil for a 37 year old.....

Imagine if Mac had done this....lol

You guys really do have JD sunglasses on

Why does his age matter?  He needs to play THIS YEAR, and this year only.  If he's capable of playing at a reasonably high level (better than McGovern/Edoga/Mitchell), and offering stability in front of the 2nd year QB, it does not matter how much it costs.  There's not a single signing or extension that has to be aborted due to this signing.

[Integrity28]

35 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

 

Becton is done here.

[RedBeardedSavage]

4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Some of you guys put far too much weight into the salary cap.

Yes, it's important for sure.  But we still have no superstar that's going to require $30mm a year any time soon.

Cap can be manipulated year in and year out ----- we've led the league in cap space for like the past 5 years.

It's time to win games and deal with the cap when you have to - be smart but don't build scared!

 

It's situations like this precisely why it's wise to leave some cap space open and then use it.

Our RT just went down for the year - I can't think of a better use of that money right now.

[mrcoops]

6 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

They brought in 2

I don't think either Benenoch or Glaser are worthy of a roster spot. Can't see either of them as legit options as the 3rd Tackle.

[Jetlife33]

This is a huge UPGRADE. I love that it’s a 2 year deal. Dude is a pro bowler. If you’re complaining about the 22 million who cares seriously. Not our money. JD not being cheap, knows he has to protect ZW. I absolutely love this move. 

[slimjasi]

18 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

There is a close to zero chance JD gets fired after this year - regardless of the record.  He is the first GM this team has had that has shown even a basic level of competence in over a decade.  

JD isn't going anywhere for quite some time and nor should he.

I strongly disagree. 

If this team tanks again this year, the media will turn on JD and Woody (who was off in England when he was hired) will feel pressure to make a change. I wouldn't guarantee that JD gets fired in such a scenario, but the possibility is nowhere near zero, IMO. 

[PorP]

43 minutes ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said:

This is an online forum. We don't pontificate. We beat useless/irrelevant topics to death. 

You're the only one quoting my post for far that got it was fececius and picking fun at the board members lol. 

[IndianaJet]

12 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

Should’ve signed him sooner (could’ve signed him to a less expensive deal months ago), but better late than never. 

 

It takes two to tango.  Brown likely wanted to sign with a team that was going to give him a realistic chance to start.

Jets couldn't offer that until Becton went down.

[undertow]

I watched a bunch of Seahawks games last year because it was fun to root against them and what I noticed is Wilson held onto the ball way too long and ran around in circles a lot.....  I wonder if that had anything to do with Browns numbers being so bad.

[Skeptable]

3 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

I don't think either Benenoch or Glaser are worthy of a roster spot. Can't see either of them as legit options as the 3rd Tackle.

Over McDermott possibly. Especially if the injury lingers.

[65 Toss Power Trap]

4 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

I strongly disagree. 

If this team tanks again this year, the media will turn on JD and Woody (who was off in England when he was hired) will feel pressure to make a change. I wouldn't guarantee that JD gets fired in such a scenario, but the possibility is nowhere near zero, IMO. 

This. No matter the reason, 4 wins ( and probably 5) will require firings just to keep the wolves at bay.