jgb Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 23 hours ago, Facts said: Definitely a concern and something ive thought about since I first saw him. Just look at the pic below. He looks like a boy. His body just doesnt look like it ever developed into a grown mans body and I worry that will always be an issue considering how physical the NFL is. That being said, last night was a non-contact injury so that's a whole different thing. Tell me this doesn't look like a high-school player at first glance? My very scientific pre-draft assessment of him was “airbrushed Jimmy Clausen.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Fields ???? Really ??? JfC Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Yep, he is going to be good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jgb Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 28 minutes ago, Dunnie said: My guess is week 2 hes back Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Probably best not to expose him to Baltimore. That is very much shaping up to be a slaughter IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said: He's officially injury prone in addition to being undersized and apparently, uncoachable. I believe he will turn out to be as bad as JD's 2020 draft. With the Jets poor record of judging injury recovery times, I expect him to miss at least the first 2 games of the season. Is Aaron Rodgers undersized? They are the exact same size. Cmon man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut Jet Penalty Makers Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, BurntDice said: Is Aaron Rodgers undersized? They are the exact same size. Cmon man Apples and bowling balls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Every minute that goes by that we dont get an update on zachs surgery makes me think they want to finalize the trade for jimmy g b4 announcing zach is done for the year. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, jgb said: I do not believe in “ceiling” for QB, at least not in any sense that relates to physical attributes. Once they have satisfactory physical talent, additional ability there offers a diminishing return and it’s like 99% brain at that point. This is why extrapolating college QB performance to NFL performance is the hardest thing to scout in sport. There is no measurable reason why Jamarcus Russell is the biggest bust in NFL history and Tom Brady is the best draft selection ever. The most important QB attribute is (so far) immeasurable. So drafting for physical talent is fine (what else can you really do) but once they have a fair amount of NFL tape, I no longer give 2 turds about physical “ceiling.” Gimme the guy who looks like he belongs and isn’t overwhelmed. The paucity of NFL QB “turnaround stories” is well documented on this site. Haha I love the story of the coach giving Russell a blank game tape to watch and then followed up with him on what he thought. JaMarcus never turned it on and played it off like he watched it 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Every minute that goes by that we dont get an update on zachs surgery makes me think they want to finalize the trade for jimmy g b4 announcing zach is done for the year.Surgery TuesdaySent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, jgb said: This is why I rated Mac the #2 QB in the class. ? One addition: I do not blame GMs for drafting on the physical stuff at least until the NFL develops some way to reduce the margin of error in evaluating the intangibles you helpfully list. When in doubt, sure give me the physical freak. I just felt very strongly that Mac was a winner, smart, and would be an efficient NFL QB. Let's see what look at his pace does year 2. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Surgery Tuesday Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Oh ok. Good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Let's see what look at his pace does year 2. I’m with ya. A QB needs to keep delivering. Don’t happen to believe he’s capped by some notion of physical ceiling, but yeah I get that some or even many are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Haha I love the story of the coach giving Russell a blank game tape to watch and then followed up with him on what he thought. JaMarcus never turned it on and played it off like he watched it A bona fide slug with a ceiling around Aldebaran, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 1:01 PM, T0mShane said: Excuse me, madam, but it was designed to be a cesspool @The Crusher thought it was a green Wendy’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 1:10 PM, T0mShane said: Makes Dee Milliner look like Cal Ripken. Senior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: @The Crusher thought it was a green Wendy’s. The last time I gave a unit of blood I needed to eat so only choice was Wendy’s. I got a double cheeseburger? Dude, honestly? Pretty freaking nice!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 1:10 PM, T0mShane said: Makes Dee Milliner look like Cal Ripken. Could he be Wally Pipp to Mike White’s Lou Gehrig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 4:40 PM, jgb said: Incredible that many hold simultaneous beliefs that the draft is a crapshoot and no one can predict anything but that “ceiling” is an unalienable and quantitative fact. Amazing how much front offices spend on scouting only to realize that drafting a guy like Pat Mahomes is a waste if your roster and coaches are bad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 4:51 PM, Jet Nut said: Which is different from deciding what a draftee will or won’t be out of the draft how? We all have done it That’s fine. But some people are so incredibly dim-witted that, even with hindsight available to them, they think Pat Mahomes is a product of his environment whereas Sam Darnold is still secretly good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 6:40 PM, sackdance said: If the Jets drafted Mac Jones he would be out of the league by now. @Jet Nut see what I mean? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 6 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Haha I love the story of the coach giving Russell a blank game tape to watch and then followed up with him on what he thought. JaMarcus never turned it on and played it off like he watched it That sounds like the ol’ “$100 taped to the back of the playbook” trick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Remember how when players got injured the team doctors at the team hospital did the surgery? Like at Lenox Hill? The Jets players won’t touch the Jet doctors with a ten-foot pole. Wilson can’t be running past the line of scrimmage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 11 hours ago, jgb said: This is why I rated Mac the #2 QB in the class. ? One addition: I do not blame GMs for drafting on the physical stuff at least until the NFL develops some way to reduce the margin of error in evaluating the intangibles you helpfully list. When in doubt, sure give me the physical freak. I just felt very strongly that Mac was a winner, smart, and would be an efficient NFL QB. I had Fields 2nd I think he will surprise people. He looked improved in the right areas on Saturday in limited action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Just now, maury77 said: I had Fields 2nd I think he will surprise people. He looked improved in the right areas on Saturday in limited action. All the excuses for our QB exist and in greater magnitude for both Fields and Lawrence. Chicago — and especially JAX — were outrageous examples of NFL dysfunction last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: Yep, he is going to be good He looked better on Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 9 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Every minute that goes by that we dont get an update on zachs surgery makes me think they want to finalize the trade for jimmy g b4 announcing zach is done for the year. The soothsayer hath spoken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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