JohnnyLV Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 We seem to be in a rare situation where we have significant depth at a few positions and will be forced to release some potential starting caliber players to get to the 53 man roster. Some of those cuts are not likely to make it to the practice squad. I also don't think we should be afraid to trade some of our bigger names since they are likely not part of our long term plans anyway. Here are some players I would consider trading: 1. Quinnen Williams. Q is a very good but not great player. He is in the last year of his contract before the 5th year option which we would definitely exercise. Most estimates of his extension are in the $18-$20 million range. That is a TON for a non-elite defensive lineman. Similar to the Leo situation, Q would have a lot of value right now. Teams would have 2 seasons and control of the third with the franchise tag. We would get at least a first and probably more for him. We would be slightly weaker on the DL but we are so deep there, and under Saleh he rotates the lineman so much that the performance impact would be small, but we get $10 million in cap relief plus $20 million additional next year. That's 3-5 good players we can sign along the lines of Whitehead Conklin Reed Uzomah that we signed this year. 2. Corey Davis Corey is again a good player but not great. It is seriously doubtful that he is part of our future plans. In my view he has been a mild disappointment so far with some injuries and several key drops. He was a solid #2 in Tenn and many FO personnel will attribute his performance drop to our QB situation (right or not). Again a team would be guaranteed 2 years so he is not a rental. I think we could get as high as #2 for him and I am more than OK with just putting Garret in his spot and rolling with Moore and Wilson as our outside guys which also makes it easier to keep some of the WR that have been flashing and open up a spot for someone like Cager who could be a very versatile player for the Jets 3. Rankins/Shepherd These are veteran guys but to be honest I would rather keep Tanzel and Marshall on the roster than these guys and we might be able to get a couple late round picks for them instead of releasing them or much worse, trying to sneak our young guys onto the PS and having them claimed. 4. Ashtyn Davis Decent player, again maybe just a late rounder, but IMO Parks and Riley are better and the only reason to keep Davis is because we drafted him. 5. Trevon Wesco With Cager and Yeboah and Bawden the cuts at TE/FB become absolutely brutal. Wesco is a solid player that can play inline, some full back and catch a little. I like the upside of the other guys better and we went from the worst TE room in the NFL to one of the best so we can't keep them all. We might be able to get Yeboah to the PS again, and Cager showed some ability to block so we may be able to get some draft capital for Wesco who could be a useful addition for several NFL teams. 6. Ty Johnson I think we might only keep 3 RBs this year and Zonovan flashed quite a bit in the preseason game. I think Perrine gets cut, and I like Hall/Carter/BAM better than Hall/Carter/Johnson. he won't be coveted but a team may slip us something for Ty as depth I know a lot of you are going to immediately say we should trade Mims, but from the promise he showed in his first year to his effort, conditioning and flashes in TC I think it makes a lot of sense to give Mims another year. His combination of size and speed is not common at all. If we trade Davis it makes it a lot easier to give Mims the year. The Jets certainly may trade him but it is not my preference. Interested in people's thoughts. Also lets not ruin the thread with arguments about trading Zach there are tons of other threads for that conversation. 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Maybe trade the depth.. You don't trade a teams best players when they are actually finally trying to win.... That's idiotic and what losers do 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post C Mart Posted August 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2022 Where's the demand for some of the players you listed 6 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted August 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2022 Yeah get rid of the young stud on a rookie contract lol nobody wants Davis’ contract. nobody wants any of the other players otherwise, great thread 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Why’s everyone so hot to trade Davis? Dude looked legit with the worst QB in the NFL throwing to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 i'm willing to bet douglas will always pick up the phone. if there's a demand for a certain player they'll call. but it's tough because a lot of those players may be the keys to success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 minute ago, jgb said: Why’s everyone so hot to trade Davis? Dude looked legit with the worst QB in the NFL throwing to him. Zuniga/Huff. At most we can keep one. The other is probably worth something somewhere. Possible that one of our last DB cuts could attract some interest. We're talking Day 3 picks but hell, anything is better than nothing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 minute ago, nycdan said: Zuniga/Huff. At most we can keep one. The other is probably worth something somewhere. Possible that one of our last DB cuts could attract some interest. We're talking Day 3 picks but hell, anything is better than nothing. Ah I see, I don’t fall into the JAG off season love fest, tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 TIL Ashytn Davis is still on this team. If you told me he was gone 3 years ago I'd believe you. Keep in mind, he might have been brought in 2 years ago as far as I am concerned. he suck. Trade them all. If we can get decent value on Q, doooo it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, jgb said: Ah I see, I don’t fall into the JAG off season love fest, tho. Agreed, but there are a few teams out there for whom some of our last cuts would be an upgrade. Same works both ways. There may be a Safety or OT cut that we'll bring in to replace our bottom guy. I could see 6th/7th round picks being used to get a jump on the wavier wire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Just now, nycdan said: Agreed, but there are a few teams out there for whom some of our last cuts would be an upgrade. Same works both ways. There may be a Safety or OT cut that we'll bring in to replace our bottom guy. I could see 6th/7th round picks being used to get a jump on the wavier wire. Not sure what the IR rules are (if still relaxed from COVID-era) but they could IR the QB to save a roster spot in the short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Just now, jgb said: Not sure what the IR rules are (if still relaxed from COVID-era) but they could IR the QB to save a roster spot in the short term. I think you can't IR a guy until after Week 1 or else it's a season-long thing. That may have changed with Covid though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, nycdan said: Zuniga/Huff. At most we can keep one. The other is probably worth something somewhere. Possible that one of our last DB cuts could attract some interest. We're talking Day 3 picks but hell, anything is better than nothing. I think they both make it. Think they may go 5 DE, 4 DT, and stash 1-2 DT on PS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I don’t think Perine gets cut. Heard he’s having a great preseason and I think Ty Johnson might be the cut. Zonovan is a good practice squad candidate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, jgb said: Why’s everyone so hot to trade Davis? Dude looked legit with the worst QB in the NFL throwing to him. He had a number of huge drops last year and is making some good dough - not sure I would use the word “legit” for his performance last year. Maybe “uneven” - some good, some bad. BUT - I also think he can a good complimentary piece on a championship offense (probably a 3rd-ish option like he was in Tennessee) and I don’t see him as a viable candidate for a trade. Wilson also seems to really like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Zuniga was on the practice squad much of last year and not poached. Shepherd was a free agent that signed for $1M non-guaranteed. If these guys were worth even late rounders to somebody else they would not be here. I don't see most of those guys as having much value, but whatever. Seems insane to even think about trading Quinnen Williams. Are we trying to continue our spiral of rebuild? He is here. He is good. We are not. Let's trade him? I think Davis is better than people give him credit. He is a starting caliber WR, but not a very good one. Getting rid of him is not saving us anything or getting us anything of value. I think they will move a few players they like for 7ths or conditional picks on cutdown day, but as the case for the past several years - we are buyers. Not sellers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Not going to kill the premise but I don’t see a 1 for qw. if it were reversed, I think most here would tar and feather jd if he gave up a 1 for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, slimjasi said: He had a number of huge drops last year and is making some good dough - not sure I would use the word “legit” for his performance last year. Maybe “uneven” - some good, some bad. BUT - I also think he can a good complimentary piece on a championship offense (probably a 3rd-ish option like he was in Tennessee) and I don’t see him as a viable candidate for a trade. Wilson also seems to really like him. Fair but I happen to think incompetent QB play had a hand in that. The one season he played with a non-bad QB he showed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeremy2020 Posted August 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2022 Jets get the slightest modicum of depth and jets fans race to trade it away for peanuts. How many of those would bring assets that are worthwhile back? In a year the Jets need to absolutely take a step forward as a team and at QB... you shouldn't be trading away any talent that is not bringing back superior talent in return. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 4 hours ago, C Mart said: Where's the demand for some of the players you listed Where’s the demand for literally any of them besides Q? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Where’s the demand for literally any of them besides Q? I'm not sure you'd get all the much for Quinnen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Where’s the demand for literally any of them besides Q? Yup.. And even then - He's an above average DT with high draft stock. Someone would surely give up something for him but nothing that would make it worth while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Jets get the slightest modicum of depth and jets fans race to trade it away for peanuts. How many of those would bring assets that are worthwhile back? In a year the Jets need to absolutely take a step forward as a team and at QB... you shouldn't be trading away any talent that is not bringing back superior talent in return. Draft capital and cap space have been the only things we have had to celebrate for over a decade. We will need time to move on from that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Jets get the slightest modicum of depth and jets fans race to trade it away for peanuts. How many of those would bring assets that are worthwhile back? In a year the Jets need to absolutely take a step forward as a team and at QB... you shouldn't be trading away any talent that is not bringing back superior talent in return. Bingo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, peebag said: I'm not sure you'd get all the much for Quinnen. I think you’d get a decent haul for him I didn’t think we’d get much for Sheldon Richardson (especially with his off the field stuff) and we ended up getting a 2nd round pick and Jermaine Kearse. And Quinnen is a better player than Richardson was. Still, I wouldn’t trade Q. Yeah, he’s not Aaron Donald, but no one is. He’s still a damn good player and I fully expect Douglas to re-sign him even if the price pisses some fans off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 If you trade QW that's fine, but it has to be for an sizable profit, and not just for saving face. Two first rounders to start as he's so young and under contract for two years. If it's a good team the two firsts are just wetting the appetite as the firsts won't be high. However, if you can get a favorable JA seahawks type deal +, then you do it. You have line depth and can get, not all, but a lot of his production from other guys on the roster, and set yourself up for more multiple first round pick drafts to just keep stacking the team with young talent. Sorry to the QW guys out there, but two+ young and talented players is better than one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: If you trade QW that's fine, but it has to be for an sizable profit, and not just for saving face. Two first rounders to start as he's so young and under contract for two years. If it's a good team the two firsts are just wetting the appetite as the firsts won't be high. However, if you can get a favorable JA seahawks type deal +, then you do it. You have line depth and can get, not all, but a lot of his production from other guys on the roster, and set yourself up for more multiple first round pick drafts to just keep stacking the team with young talent. Sorry to the QW guys out there, but two+ young and talented players is better than one. We would be lucky to get one first rounder for him 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, jgb said: Why’s everyone so hot to trade Davis? Dude looked legit with the worst QB in the NFL throwing to him. He will still have the worst QB throwing at him soon enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IndianaJet Posted August 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2022 I'd like to trade some of our posters. 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: He will still have the worst QB throwing at him soon enough Hater troll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Does Seattle or Carolina need D lineman? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, nycdan said: Zuniga/Huff. At most we can keep one. The other is probably worth something somewhere. Possible that one of our last DB cuts could attract some interest. We're talking Day 3 picks but hell, anything is better than nothing. Highly doubt Huff is going anywhere. He consistently generates pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 5 hours ago, johnnysd said: We seem to be in a rare situation where we have significant depth at a few positions and will be forced to release some potential starting caliber players to get to the 53 man roster. Some of those cuts are not likely to make it to the practice squad. I also don't think we should be afraid to trade some of our bigger names since they are likely not part of our long term plans anyway. Here are some players I would consider trading: 1. Quinnen Williams. Q is a very good but not great player. He is in the last year of his contract before the 5th year option which we would definitely exercise. Most estimates of his extension are in the $18-$20 million range. That is a TON for a non-elite defensive lineman. Similar to the Leo situation, Q would have a lot of value right now. Teams would have 2 seasons and control of the third with the franchise tag. We would get at least a first and probably more for him. We would be slightly weaker on the DL but we are so deep there, and under Saleh he rotates the lineman so much that the performance impact would be small, but we get $10 million in cap relief plus $20 million additional next year. That's 3-5 good players we can sign along the lines of Whitehead Conklin Reed Uzomah that we signed this year. 2. Corey Davis Corey is again a good player but not great. It is seriously doubtful that he is part of our future plans. In my view he has been a mild disappointment so far with some injuries and several key drops. He was a solid #2 in Tenn and many FO personnel will attribute his performance drop to our QB situation (right or not). Again a team would be guaranteed 2 years so he is not a rental. I think we could get as high as #2 for him and I am more than OK with just putting Garret in his spot and rolling with Moore and Wilson as our outside guys which also makes it easier to keep some of the WR that have been flashing and open up a spot for someone like Cager who could be a very versatile player for the Jets 3. Rankins/Shepherd These are veteran guys but to be honest I would rather keep Tanzel and Marshall on the roster than these guys and we might be able to get a couple late round picks for them instead of releasing them or much worse, trying to sneak our young guys onto the PS and having them claimed. 4. Ashtyn Davis Decent player, again maybe just a late rounder, but IMO Parks and Riley are better and the only reason to keep Davis is because we drafted him. 5. Trevon Wesco With Cager and Yeboah and Bawden the cuts at TE/FB become absolutely brutal. Wesco is a solid player that can play inline, some full back and catch a little. I like the upside of the other guys better and we went from the worst TE room in the NFL to one of the best so we can't keep them all. We might be able to get Yeboah to the PS again, and Cager showed some ability to block so we may be able to get some draft capital for Wesco who could be a useful addition for several NFL teams. 6. Ty Johnson I think we might only keep 3 RBs this year and Zonovan flashed quite a bit in the preseason game. I think Perrine gets cut, and I like Hall/Carter/BAM better than Hall/Carter/Johnson. he won't be coveted but a team may slip us something for Ty as depth I know a lot of you are going to immediately say we should trade Mims, but from the promise he showed in his first year to his effort, conditioning and flashes in TC I think it makes a lot of sense to give Mims another year. His combination of size and speed is not common at all. If we trade Davis it makes it a lot easier to give Mims the year. The Jets certainly may trade him but it is not my preference. Interested in people's thoughts. Also lets not ruin the thread with arguments about trading Zach there are tons of other threads for that conversation. They would trade any one of those players minus Q. He’s not getting traded unless someone makes a brain dead offer. Doubtful. The FO thinks he’s a lot better than most here believe and he’s been our best DL this summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Reports of the Jets “depth” have been greatly exaggerated. We need every talented player we can get our hands on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: They would trade any one of those players minus Q. He’s not getting traded unless someone makes a brain dead offer. Doubtful. The FO thinks he’s a lot better than most here believe and he’s been our best DL this summer Sure. I didn't deny that. You want to give him 4 years $80 million? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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