Francis Sawyer 37 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 44 minutes ago, sec143dmf said: That is what happens when you draft the right QB. Kyle Trask could be a good one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: Just 10 more years of sucking! We can do this! Josh Allen seems like more of a 15+ year baller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Sawyer 37 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, jgb said: Arms strength is the most overrated QB attribute. Discuss. How? Dink and Dunkers dont win in the NFL unless youve got a 2000 Ravens defense and run game to carry you. Mahomes Burrows Allen Rodgers Herbert All aim for the fences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Sawyer 37 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: Just 10 more years of sucking! We can do this! NE and Miami too. Buffalo is 11 - 1 vs the AFCE as of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 16 hours ago, redlichtie said: Does this mean the pig is ripe? Do pigs actually ripen? Are pigs fruit? What happens when you eat an unripened pig? So much about this I have questions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just got back from Vegas ... no one there give a flying rat monkeys ass about the Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Francis Sawyer 37 said: How? Dink and Dunkers dont win in the NFL unless youve got a 2000 Ravens defense and run game to carry you. Mahomes Burrows Allen Rodgers Herbert All aim for the fences. You left out Brady who has played in like half the SBs this millenium. We just had a thread on top 5 QBs in NFL history, 4 of the top vote getters were Brady, Brees, Montana, Manning. Only Rodgers has a rocket arm in the top 5. Arm strength is important in that it must be sufficient. But above that, it’s much less so than other factors, namely: accuracy, decision-making and football processing speed. This is the reality of the explosion of the WCO. Teams worship at the altar of arm strength at the risk of undervaluing the other, more impactful, characteristics. All things being equal—yes give me the guy with the strong arm. But there are other factors that matter more. This is what I mean that it’s “overrated” (not synonymous with “unimportant”). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: Josh Allen seems like more of a 15+ year baller. I campaigned hard for Allen. Huge body, smart, rocket arm, crazy athletic, fiery competitor… Jee, who could have guessed that he woulda turned out good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I spent an afternoon in Boston once. Can confirm: Pig is ripe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Facts said: I campaigned hard for Allen. Huge body, smart, rocket arm, crazy athletic, fiery competitor… Jee, who could have guessed that he woulda turned out good. Well done. You were one of the few. I had them ranked Baker, Darnold, Allen, Lamar, Jamarcus Russel, Josh “The undraftable one” Rosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 18 hours ago, freestater said: Considering the tone of the OP, I'd say the pigeth is ripeth. You maketh a fineth point! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 19 hours ago, jgb said: We missed our chance in 2020 because we also sucked. Better luck when Mac Jones retires. It’s the hope that crushes you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 18 hours ago, GangGreened said: Buffalo has already taken over the AFCE. Jets will probably be irrelevant for at least 5 more years, at the current pace Just wait until Josh Allen retires. Our time is coming Jets fans!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, redlichtie said: It’s the hope that crushes you My Jets hope died on September 12, 1999. That’s when this old Jedi went over to the dark side. No amount of PVO can affect what happens on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Warfish said: Do pigs actually ripen? Are pigs fruit? What happens when you eat an unripened pig? So much about this I have questions... You are totes over-thinking this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Just wait until Josh Allen retires. Our time is coming Jets fans!!! The buffalo is ripe for skinnin’! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Returning from Boston is good news in and of itself. For the slower readers, that means Boston is a sh*thole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Just wait until Josh Allen retires. Our time is coming Jets fans!!! Just wait until Zach Wilson makes the jump in year 3. Josh Allen did it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Sawyer 37 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 22 hours ago, jgb said: You left out Brady who has played in like half the SBs this millenium. We just had a thread on top 5 QBs in NFL history, 4 of the top vote getters were Brady, Brees, Montana, Manning. Only Rodgers has a rocket arm in the top 5. Arm strength is important in that it must be sufficient. But above that, it’s much less so than other factors, namely: accuracy, decision-making and football processing speed. This is the reality of the explosion of the WCO. Teams worship at the altar of arm strength at the risk of undervaluing the other, more impactful, characteristics. All things being equal—yes give me the guy with the strong arm. But there are other factors that matter more. This is what I mean that it’s “overrated” (not synonymous with “unimportant”). Sure there are many other factors for a Franchise QB, but if you dont have an arm youre not among the Elites. Right now Mac Jones is Chad Pennington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Sawyer 37 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 21 hours ago, Facts said: I campaigned hard for Allen. Huge body, smart, rocket arm, crazy athletic, fiery competitor… Jee, who could have guessed that he woulda turned out good. Mobile Allen rushed for 763 yards - 6 TDs @ 6.3 YAC last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, Francis Sawyer 37 said: Sure there are many other factors for a Franchise QB, but if you dont have an arm youre not among the Elites. Right now Mac Jones is Chad Pennington. You can be elite without an elite arm. You cannot be elite without an elite football brain. Not anymore with how complex the game is and all the responsibilities put onto FQBs. Of course the arm needs to be over a threshold of adequacy. But beyond that, brain becomes infinitely more important. I never said arm strength means nothing. Only that it is overrated. The passionate defense of it as the most important thing a QB can have only solidifies my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Sawyer 37 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, jgb said: You can be elite without an elite arm. You cannot be elite without an elite football brain. Not anymore with how complex the game is and all the responsibilities put onto FQBs. Of course the arm needs to be over a threshold of adequacy. But beyond that, brain becomes infinitely more important. I never said arm strength means nothing. Only that it is overrated. The passionate defense of it as the most important thing a QB can have only solidifies my point. Who are the Elite QBs who cant throw deep? Even Jackson can throw deep and he isnt Elite in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, Francis Sawyer 37 said: Who are the Elite QBs who cant throw deep? Even Jackson can throw deep and he isnt Elite in my book. Throwing deep doesn't equal elite arm strength. In the recent top 5 QBs ever poll, the top 6 were Brady, Montana, Manning, Rogers, Marino, Brees. Only 2 of the 6 had what could be called "elite arm strength." Again, I am not saying arm strength is unimportant, only that after a point of satisfactory strength, it's way overrated in relation to other, largely intangible, characteristics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Sawyer 37 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 23 hours ago, jgb said: Throwing deep doesn't equal elite arm strength. In the recent top 5 QBs ever poll, the top 6 were Brady, Montana, Manning, Rogers, Marino, Brees. Only 2 of the 6 had what could be called "elite arm strength." Again, I am not saying arm strength is unimportant, only that after a point of satisfactory strength, it's way overrated in relation to other, largely intangible, characteristics. Throwing deep with velocity. On a rope. The rainbow deep ball isnt going to cut it. How did Macaroni Jones look last night? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 47 minutes ago, Francis Sawyer 37 said: Throwing deep with velocity. On a rope. The rainbow deep ball isnt going to cut it. How did Macaroni Jones look last night? Pro bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Francis Sawyer 37 said: Throwing deep with velocity. On a rope. The rainbow deep ball isnt going to cut it. How did Macaroni Jones look last night? Mac Jones in Mid-Season Form I See ???? - YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ben Had said: Mac Jones in Mid-Season Form I See ???? - YouTube You will be sorely disappointed, again. Mac Jones is not going to suddenly forget how to play football. He’s football smart and mentally tough. He will be a starter in this league a long time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/24/2022 at 5:08 PM, Facts said: Dear comrades, I just returned from Boston, home of the once mighty Patriot. Tho the snow hasn't thus fallen, their spirits are wounded as pre-battle has not gone as they have wished. Their once mighty offense is without a cannon or ball. Their offensive battle leader has deserted to Nevada. They have a new field commander named MacDorkal. He looks rather dweeb-like. Their general is quite old and fat now. His man-boobs lyeth thus on his chest. Yes, more so than usual I assure you. It twas a sad sight to see, the Bostonians half drunk and muttering about missing their goat. Fear not comrades, our time is coming and their time is over. Until next time, (insert old fashioned signing stamp thing here) I just moved here to Boston. I’ll be wearing my George Sauer, Don Maynard, Wayne Chrebet and Joe Namath jerseys proudly! If you don’t hear back from me send out a search party. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Maynard13 said: I just moved here to Boston. I’ll be wearing my George Sauer, Don Maynard, Wayne Chrebet and Joe Namath jerseys proudly! If you don’t hear back from me send out a search party. ? Nice jersey collection. I hope one day we are considered enough of a threat to the Pats for Jets fans to be concerned for their safety in Boston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Mac jones is a smart football player that be annoyingly efficient... ala the Patriot way. Also .. our receivers should take note if how they do it in NE... those receivers dont drop accurately placed balls.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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