Barry McCockinner Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/25/report-all-options-are-on-the-table-for-raiders-ol-alex-leatherwood/ The Raiders could soon be parting ways with tackle Alex Leatherwood. Via Vincent Bonsignore of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, all options are on the table for Leatherwood, the 17th overall pick in the 2021 draft. Those options include leaving him at tackle, moving him to guard, trading him, or cutting him. Cutting him would be far from ideal. He has a fully-guaranteed contract through 2024. The Raiders probably would have to pay some of that money to finagle a trade. The Cowboys could be a candidate, given that they’re scrambling to replace left tackle Tyron Smith. But here’s the reality about teams that need help on the offensive line — they’re probably not looking for guys whom their current team is trying to get rid of. New Raiders coach Josh McDaniels has already trotted out the “leak that a player is being cut and then hope someone calls to trade for him” routine. It didn’t work with running back Kenyan Drake. Maybe McDaniels will try it again with Leatherwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted August 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2022 Never heard of him. With that said, though... 1 for 1 trade with Becton? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 They’ll operate like the patriots and flip him for a 6th rounder. I can’t imagine he’s THAT bad, just not worth the 1st round salary. He’d be good depth and our big FA signing AllPro LG Tomlinson had a similar beginning with Detroit got flipped for like a 5th(?) to SanFran and resurrected his career into netting another NFL $$$ FA contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/25/report-all-options-are-on-the-table-for-raiders-ol-alex-leatherwood/ The Raiders could soon be parting ways with tackle Alex Leatherwood. Via Vincent Bonsignore of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, all options are on the table for Leatherwood, the 17th overall pick in the 2021 draft. Those options include leaving him at tackle, moving him to guard, trading him, or cutting him. Cutting him would be far from ideal. He has a fully-guaranteed contract through 2024. The Raiders probably would have to pay some of that money to finagle a trade. The Cowboys could be a candidate, given that they’re scrambling to replace left tackle Tyron Smith. But here’s the reality about teams that need help on the offensive line — they’re probably not looking for guys whom their current team is trying to get rid of. New Raiders coach Josh McDaniels has already trotted out the “leak that a player is being cut and then hope someone calls to trade for him” routine. It didn’t work with running back Kenyan Drake. Maybe McDaniels will try it again with Leatherwood. why are they cutting a tackle from Alabama? Seems weird... leatherwood had issues but still he started for Alabama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted August 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Skeptable said: why are they cutting a tackle from Alabama? Seems weird... leatherwood had issues but still he started for Alabama. So did Dee Milliner. 3 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 He’s dogg water, not a starter and you would be terrified with him as a back up. Hard pass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, nycdan said: So did Dee Milliner. CB vs OL.... very different... You don't draft CBs from Alabama... you draft lineman... both sides. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, nycdan said: So did Dee Milliner. Sometimes a post is tactical. this one is a club directly to the head. well done. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I'd offer him to Dallas. Desperation time with Tyron Smith injured (again). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I recall his name from draft talk back whenever, but it does seem odd he's already washed out. If I recall he was considered a pretty reasonable prospect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Skeptable said: CB vs OL.... very different... You don't draft CBs from Alabama... you draft lineman... both sides. I was gonna let this go, but I checked something and was surprised by the results. https://www.si.com/college/alabama/bamanfl/nfl-active-alabama-crimson-tide-players-by-position There are some really good DBs on this list. Minkah, Diggs, Eddie Jackson, Surtain, Humphrey. On the flip side, looking at OL and DL, I'm not blown away. Honestly, I'd draft WRs from Alabama. That's the best position they bring to the NFL by far. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I'd be interested in him as a backup option, but I'm guessing they will hold onto him. I think he fits better in a zone blocking scheme, but cost might be too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viermoo Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I remember when he was drafted the pundits were really confused.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Josh trying to be like papa bill. i don’t hate the raiders but simply don’t care for josh. would not disappoint me to see him and rhule at the bottom of the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I remember when he was over drafted badly by Mayock. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 no way do we take a guy who they want to trade after 1 year. and he wasnt injured he started all 17 games last year. i read he was moved to RT from RG and looked bad. he got beat by a vet and a 7th rd pick. ok fine then move him back inside as a backup. if a 2nd year player that wasnt injured cant be a backup then thats all you need to know. we should stay away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 **** yeah I would trade for him and let him sit behind Brown this year. Fant is not under contract next. Give them Mims and Becton...win win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/25/report-all-options-are-on-the-table-for-raiders-ol-alex-leatherwood/ The Raiders could soon be parting ways with tackle Alex Leatherwood. Via Vincent Bonsignore of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, all options are on the table for Leatherwood, the 17th overall pick in the 2021 draft. Those options include leaving him at tackle, moving him to guard, trading him, or cutting him. Cutting him would be far from ideal. He has a fully-guaranteed contract through 2024. The Raiders probably would have to pay some of that money to finagle a trade. The Cowboys could be a candidate, given that they’re scrambling to replace left tackle Tyron Smith. But here’s the reality about teams that need help on the offensive line — they’re probably not looking for guys whom their current team is trying to get rid of. New Raiders coach Josh McDaniels has already trotted out the “leak that a player is being cut and then hope someone calls to trade for him” routine. It didn’t work with running back Kenyan Drake. Maybe McDaniels will try it again with Leatherwood. I seriously doubt the Raiders cut or trade Leatherwood. What they know is that he isn’t NFL caliber tackle . Should never play there again. He strictly should be playing at guard only. Alex Leatherwood and JSimpson are exactly the type of guards that the new offense blocking scheme prefers .( they both move defenders off the line of scrimmage in the running game) With Dylan parham eventually becoming the center . ( right now starting lg) Right now neither Simpson or Leatherwood are projected to start on the offense line , but you need depth , and either one can easily fill in there if starter goes down. Alex Leatherwood at guard can develop into a pro bowl caliber guard . He isn’t even an CFL caliber tackle. Hopeful they play him tomorrow all game at guard , and don’t waste anymore time trying to play him where he not cut out to play - tackle . 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 15 hours ago, Skeptable said: why are they cutting a tackle from Alabama? Seems weird... leatherwood had issues but still he started for Alabama. Running the Pats offense? He probably doesn’t hold enough. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 Mims for Leatherwood. Make it happen Tanny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 14 hours ago, Trotter said: i don’t hate the raiders Try harder. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 11 hours ago, Raideraholic said: I seriously doubt the Raiders cut or trade Leatherwood. What they know is that he isn’t NFL caliber tackle . Should never play there again. He strictly should be playing at guard only. Alex Leatherwood and JSimpson are exactly the type of guards that the new offense blocking scheme prefers .( they both move defenders off the line of scrimmage in the running game) With Dylan parham eventually becoming the center . ( right now starting lg) Right now neither Simpson or Leatherwood are projected to start on the offense line , but you need depth , and either one can easily fill in there if starter goes down. Alex Leatherwood at guard can develop into a pro bowl caliber guard . He isn’t even an CFL caliber tackle. Hopeful they play him tomorrow all game at guard , and don’t waste anymore time trying to play him where he not cut out to play - tackle . I seem to remember some draft guys, either Brandt, Polian or Paul Alexander saying they thought he would be a G in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raideraholic Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 22 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Mims for Leatherwood. Make it happen Tanny. No Jmo I expect Raiders to carry 6 RBs , and five wrs only. Ex Jet - K Cole looks to be the odd man out . 1. D Adams 2 H Renfrow- slot 3 . m Hollins - more blocker for run downs but top special Teamer 4. Tyron Johnson - will have big year as will get Single coverage. A better R Anderson version. Going to put up big numbers as going to see single coverage . 5 Dj Turner - slot- punt/ kick returner . Mims doesn’t fit the Wr criteria because you have to have intelligence . Read coverages and be able to know where you suppose to be by the coverage the team is in. Your Qb expects you to be there reading the defense, and you aren’t there there going to be turnovers. ( make the Qb look bad because You didn’t read the coverage right). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 19 hours ago, section314 said: I seem to remember some draft guys, either Brandt, Polian or Paul Alexander saying they thought he would be a G in the NFL. Raiders previous staff made a mistake projecting him to tackle , as he clearly just a guard in nfl. Should never play another down at tackle again. Mcdaniels likes his offense lineman to be versatile Leatherwood only being able to play guard works against him. Still you can’t keep trying to find a square piece in round hole. You need depth and having Simpson, and Leatherwood as guard is very nice depth. The Raiders are okay in the interior but tackle becomes dicey. K Miller and J Eluemunor ( ideally probably like to be swing tackle than starting). After that J Barton will probably make the roster as swing tackle. t Munford will initial. Make the 53 man roster but they will Ir ( miss the first five weeks). 7th rounder isn’t ready to survive at Rt in AFC west. ( pass rushers you will see) . The Raiders will pick up tackle that’s cut or trade for one . They can’t have Barton and Munford as the backups . Get quality starter at Rt , and than Eluemunor can be the swing tackle. Hope the new staff doesn’t plan to put B Parker on initial 53 man roster, than ir him . He has torn labrum . He wasn’t good with two healthy arms, and going to be better with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 He was a head-scratcher as a draft pick, I think most had him going day 2. But Mike Mayock and Jon Gruden were smarter then everyone else in the room so they took him at 17. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 He'd make a fine addition to any BDSM dungeon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 All good things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I don't know how he'd fit with us, but washing out when systems change is a way to pick up talent. The fact they cut bait so quickly makes you wonder if there is some attitude/character/work ethic stuff, but that is pure conjecture. He was a head scratcher going 17 overall, but I figured he'd be a solid enough 2nd. Really has not had a very good start to his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 On 8/25/2022 at 11:14 PM, Raideraholic said: I seriously doubt the Raiders cut or trade Leatherwood. What they know is that he isn’t NFL caliber tackle . Should never play there again. He strictly should be playing at guard only. Alex Leatherwood and JSimpson are exactly the type of guards that the new offense blocking scheme prefers .( they both move defenders off the line of scrimmage in the running game) With Dylan parham eventually becoming the center . ( right now starting lg) Right now neither Simpson or Leatherwood are projected to start on the offense line , but you need depth , and either one can easily fill in there if starter goes down. Alex Leatherwood at guard can develop into a pro bowl caliber guard . He isn’t even an CFL caliber tackle. Hopeful they play him tomorrow all game at guard , and don’t waste anymore time trying to play him where he not cut out to play - tackle . Typed all this for nothing lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I don't know how he'd fit with us, but washing out when systems change is a way to pick up talent. The fact they cut bait so quickly makes you wonder if there is some attitude/character/work ethic stuff, but that is pure conjecture. He was a head scratcher going 17 overall, but I figured he'd be a solid enough 2nd. Really has not had a very good start to his career. Based on what @Raideraholic said, he is terrible at Tackle; can only play Guard. That doesn't fit what the Jets are looking for so I'd think he's not even a remote consideration here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Kind of interesting that top recruits like Alex Leatherwood and Wyatt Davis, guys who, going to college, probably thought they were guaranteed NFL careers, are in the processing of failing year 2. At least Leatherwood signed a big contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, varjet said: Kind of interesting that top recruits like Alex Leatherwood and Wyatt Davis, guys who, going to college, probably thought they were guaranteed NFL careers, are in the processing of failing year 2. At least Leatherwood signed a big contract. I always thought of Guard as that non-premium position that projected really well to the pros, which was why you might draft one in the 1st round. After Warmack/Cooper and now these two, it seems that is no longer the case. Really glad AVT seems to be working out well for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, nycdan said: Based on what @Raideraholic said, he is terrible at Tackle; can only play Guard. That doesn't fit what the Jets are looking for so I'd think he's not even a remote consideration here. Generally I agree, but it also might relate to the system. I wasn't high on Leatherwood, and I don't even remember the reports that had me not being high on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I'll just let this simmer here... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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