Jets must see big Zach Wilson picture and start Joe Flacco Week 1

[FootballLove]

I think our starting D should wait until week 2. Throwing them out there week 1 against LAMAR JACKSON is just reckless.  

[David Harris]

Brett Favre played through much worse, Baker played with his left arm falling off. It’s football. Be tough, play football.

[Biggs]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

For sure, but if the Jets are down 14+ at the half, Zach Wilson is throwing the ball 40 times. Even against a soft(er) zone, that’s perilous territory. Best case for the offense is Breece Hall and Michael Carter rushing for 200 yards per.

Zach Wilson throwing the ball against a soft zone might be the best thing for him.  He gets his confidence up and puts some points on the board.  They also put tape  on that shows the Jets can throw the ball and it makes the Browns actually respect the passing game.

Having teams like the Browns having no respect for our passing game isn't going to help our running game.  

We drafted this kid for a reason.   He needs to step up to the plate and start showing why he was the 2 pick in the draft last year.  Making excuses for him or assuming he sucks isn't going to move this team forward.  The kid needs to deliver the goods.  He's the starting QB.  He's medically cleared, and feels good.  The coaches get to see him in practic and evaluate him.  If he's ready you go with him and never look back.  

[More Cowbell]

25 minutes ago, shuler82 said:

So he hasn’t been in the meetings or at practice?
 

 If he’s cleared and can practice this week sitting him is basically a cover up- same as when they held him out for a few extra weeks last season . and if that’s what they have to do in year 2 we’re in trouble 

Hey, why even have practice.  Just let players sit in meeting and watch film. Seems that it doesn't matter. 

[More Cowbell]

13 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I disagree with the bolded, as well as probably the front office and players.

This team can and should be in playoff contention late in the season.  But it's not going to happen with Joe Flacco.

That is a very big ask. We still have a bunch of rookie and sophomore  players on the team and the CS is barely  out of diapers  themselves. I like the teams make up and I think we are setup well for the future, I just don't  see it this season. 

[Integrity28]

37 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

He has participated in zero practices relative to the BAL game plan, but that’s okay because he threw the ball around in July with Brax.

 

33 minutes ago, shuler82 said:

So he hasn’t been in the meetings or at practice?
 

 If he’s cleared and can practice this week sitting him is basically a cover up- same as when they held him out for a few extra weeks last season . and if that’s what they have to do in year 2 we’re in trouble 

Let’s be better than this.

[SickJetFan]

57 minutes ago, Biggs said:

The Ravens D last year wasn't very good.  Against the pass it was terrible.  Cleveland on the other hand has a very good pass defense and puts a ton of pressure on the QB.  The week 1 matchup for our O is much better than week 2.  

The matchup isn't Zach against Lamar or Zach against Brissett.  Zach will face the Ravens D and Clevelands D.  Sending him in against Cleveland's D with no contact for a year is a dissaster waiting to happen.  The Ravens aren't the old Ravens.  They will try and outscore us.  There D isn't close to as good as Clevelands. 

They were bottom quarter of the league in defending both pass and run - it is not going to get easier for Zach after this game.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

There are so many reasons not to start Kapono this week.

For one, this starting offensive line has had basically zero time to gel and get on the same page in terms of pass protection.

You have no idea how it’s really going to do until the live bullets start flying.

You really want to subject your injury prone QB who’s been in a golf cart the past 3 weeks to the Ravens D?

[More Cowbell]

14 minutes ago, bostonmajet said:

Well, most QB take at least 2-3 years to show their promise. Many QBs have either bad 1st or 2nd years and still turn out okay. ZW was not good last year especially in the beginning, but he wasn't a lost cause and didn't 'see ghosts'. At this point, ZW has to make it to the next level. If that is going to happen, most likely it will be this year. If not, the season is already lost - might as well loose every game and pick a new QB next year. Flacco is done - we are not going anywhere with him. Either ZW is our future or we need to move on. While I realize that many fans and most writers have the power of premonition, the rest of us mortals, including JD and the CS need at least another year. ZW needs to step up. If ZW is a bust we are better off starting White or the Strev.

Flacco's only value is to give us a chance to win games IF ZW is really hurt - otherwise it just doesn't matter. If ZW isn't our guy, the 4 or 5 wins Flacco may get us only move us further away from getting the next QB. The idea that we are going to have a vet QB full into our lap is ridiculous - we will need to either draft a rookie or trade high 1st picks.

If ZW is a bust this is going to be another brutal year, so may as well hope that he isn't.

Actually none of what I said points to Zach being a bust or not. It more so points to this absurd notion that Zach must play this week. 

[jgb]

21 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Game three is Bengals at home, too. Imagine what loud chants for Mike White are gonna do for Zach’s confidence if the Bengals get up early?

We should just save him for the playoffs 

[Integrity28]

21 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Only jet fans would whine about bringing a player who had a 2 week injury back in 4 weeks.  Just unreal.

If t were a 2-week injury, wouldn’t he have been back 2 weeks ago?

[SickJetFan]

22 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Game three is Bengals at home, too. Imagine what loud chants for Mike White are gonna do for Zach’s confidence if the Bengals get up early?

you meant calls for Stev right?

[Biggs]

Just now, More Cowbell said:

Actually none of what I said points to Zach being a bust or not. It more so points to this absurd notion that Zach must play this week. 

Nobody is saying Zach has to start this week.  The argument is if Zach is medically cleared, Zach feels ready to go and the HC and OC watching him practice feels his good to go should he start.  

That's the question not Zach must play this week.  That's absurd.  It's also why the article is absurd.  

 

[freestater]

The only reason you dont start a healthy Zach Wilson is if you think Joe Flacco gives you a better chance to win. 

[shuler82]

10 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

Hey, why even have practice.  Just let players sit in meeting and watch film. Seems that it doesn't matter. 

So if Zach can practice this week he shouldn’t play because he only had a week to prepare for Balt, but should play next week vs Cleveland.. with a week of game planning for Cleveland?

got it 

 

[Jet Nut]

8 hours ago, Fantasy Island said:

Moot point, lets just see what he has,  Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.  Was the Philly game an aberration or the norm?  Do it.

Aberration or norm?  
He threw 5 passes. 

[Joe W. Namath]

4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

If t were a 2-week injury, wouldn’t he have been back 2 weeks ago?

Yes, but the jets didnt want to rush him back.  So the jets have done exactly what jet fans are whining about them not doing.  HAHAHAAHAHA.  Only this fanbase..........................

[SickJetFan]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Sportswriters are also looking at it through a narrative lens: if Zach goes out there and gets his leg rolled up on by a blitzer, the story will be that he wasn’t physically ready to protect himself and the Jets rushed him back. 

**** the sportswrites

you play or coach scared...you lose

[shuler82]

8 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

 

Let’s be better than this.

Might want to look in the mirror. 
 

I said if hes cleared to practice this week he should play.  One week is what you typically get to game plan for an opponent.
 

 If the staff holds him back because he’s not mentally prepared then it says all the off season hype about Zach taking a step was BS.  

[Biggs]

1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Yes, but the jets didnt want to rush him back.  So the jets have done exactly what jet fans are whining about them not doing.  HAHAHAAHAHA.  Only this fanbase..........................

You could make the argument that riding a stationary bike on the sidelines was more physical stress than being a none contact QB in a Robert Saleh practice. 

[bostonmajet]

6 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

Actually none of what I said points to Zach being a bust or not. It more so points to this absurd notion that Zach must play this week. 

I have NOT determined if he is a bust; I am not clairvoyant. I have NOT determined that he isn't. That is the point. If he is healthy he needs to play - he needs to get experience and he needs the season to either show what he has or not. That is the point.

If he is healthy and knows the offense he should play. We already know that Flacco isn't the guy and the team doesn't believe in him; they believe in Strev more than Flacco. Flacco's only value is keeping us in games if Zack is hurt. You heard Saleh - you can always say a QB needs more time - he is the starting QB, if he is healthy he will play,.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Going off this article....if he's physically ready, knee holds up after working out/practice, no limitations -then he's on the field. Simple.  Especially if he practices this week in full. If he's limited then no, hold off.

[More Cowbell]

31 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Only jet fans would whine about bringing a player who had a 2 week injury back in 4 weeks.  Just unreal.

Maybe beacuase Zach hasn't  been cleared to play yet and Saleh said it is only a possibility?

[SuicidalSince98]

29 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

My point exactly. You don't  know if he was cleared. None of us do. No announcement  has been made. We are all talking about the possibilities. Ypu taking a different position than me doesn't  make you more right but on my side is a bad history  with this knee and the Jets horrible rep of rushing players back before they are ready to play. The Jets pretty much ruined Penningtons throwing shoulder doing that. 

So now you’re saying that if the doctors clear him he should play? That’s Literally the opposite of your original statement! 

[SuicidalSince98]

29 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

My point exactly. You don't  know if he was cleared. None of us do. No announcement  has been made. We are all talking about the possibilities. Ypu taking a different position than me doesn't  make you more right but on my side is a bad history  with this knee and the Jets horrible rep of rushing players back before they are ready to play. The Jets pretty much ruined Penningtons throwing shoulder doing that. 

So now you’re saying that if the doctors clear him he should play? That’s Literally the opposite of your original statement! 

[Joe W. Namath]

Our young, explosive, possible franchise qb is healthy and is going to be announced the starting qb for week 1.  And the majority of this fanbase is miserable about it.  The disease..................................

[More Cowbell]

13 minutes ago, shuler82 said:

So if Zach can practice this week he shouldn’t play because he only had a week to prepare for Balt, but should play next week vs Cleveland.. with a week of game planning for Cleveland?

got it 

 

I would bet you anything Zack is not getting all the reps with the starters.  He will not be fully prepared and niether will Flacco. This week is an extra preseason game. 

[56mehl56]

47 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

I know I usually come off as snarky.  But I was serious about your correction.   Thanks again.  You're right about the Coast sounding better than Idaho.

Maybe Zach is living in his own private Idaho. 

[More Cowbell]

6 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

So now you’re saying that if the doctors clear him he should play? That’s Literally the opposite of your original statement! 

Actually what I am saying is you don't  know if he has been cleared to play. If today, Flacco is getting the starter reps, Zach should not play. This isn't  a team in the middle of a playoff run. When Zach can get a full week of practice and he is clear to play, by all means, get him out there. At least he will be as prepared as much as possible.  

[Joe W. Namath]

Just now, More Cowbell said:

Actually what I am saying is you don't  know if he has been cleared to play. If today, Flacco is getting the starter reps, Zach should not play. This isn't  a team in the middle of a playoff run. When Zach can get a full week of practice and he is clear to play, by all means, get him out there. At least he will be as prepared as much as possible.  

They dont practice until Wed.  Zach will be announced the starter by Saleh in the press conference prior to practice and he will get all starters reps, Wed, Thurs, and Fri.

[56mehl56]

45 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Game three is Bengals at home, too. Imagine what loud chants for Mike White are gonna do for Zach’s confidence if the Bengals get up early?

I think the only loud chant for Mike White is coming from within your head. 

[Integrity28]

20 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Yes, but the jets didnt want to rush him back.  So the jets have done exactly what jet fans are whining about them not doing.  HAHAHAAHAHA.  Only this fanbase..........................

If it were a 2-week injury. He’d be practicing. I get that you’re doing your shtick, but it lands better when it makes sense.

[More Cowbell]

19 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Yes, but the jets didnt want to rush him back.  So the jets have done exactly what jet fans are whining about them not doing.  HAHAHAAHAHA.  Only this fanbase..........................

Actually that would have been exceedingly stupid if he was ready. Zach would have played a qrt against the Giants second and thirds. That is a lot better than the Ravens #1 D

[Integrity28]

19 minutes ago, shuler82 said:

Might want to look in the mirror. 
 

I said if hes cleared to practice this week he should play.  One week is what you typically get to game plan for an opponent.
 

 If the staff holds him back because he’s not mentally prepared then it says all the off season hype about Zach taking a step was BS.  

Yea, a mirror is going to fix you putting words in my mouth.

[genot]

This I feel really strongly about. Even if he isn't at 100%, he should play. If he is what we want him to be, our FQB, he needs to stop being babied. It was a walk in the park at BYU. Time to develop a thick skin. If he needs to wear a knee brace or fall to the turf to avoid hard contact for a few weeks. So be it.