Flacco starting against Ravens; Wilson out until week 4: MERGED

[SoFlaJets]

2 minutes ago, Trotter said:

That has to be a photoshop - i am not sure a knee could possibly look like that

Why would somebody do that Trotter? That's the kid's knee man, he is not ever going to be anything but a nice kid we all liked until he had his knee wrecked twice in less than a year. 

[TuscanyTile2]

16 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Well, practice time is quite limited and you have to give the starting QB first team reps to prepare him for each game. 

That's where our all-pro practice squad comes into play though.  

[Dunnie]

1. The 2-4 week estimate was flawed, knowingly or unknowingly, and understated the timeline for return to play/contact.
2. Zach had a setback in practice and Saleh doesn't want to throw his noodle knees under the bus/trying to protect the kid.
3. Zach is fine physically, but is unprepared mentally/gameplan-wise and the staff thinks he needs a couple of weeks reps to get ready to actually play.  
4. The staff is down on Zach and wants to see what the O looks like with a veteran QB for a few weeks, then decide about Zach.
There are likely more reasonable possibilities, but the simplest answer is usually the right one, and it's probably that either the medical staff got it wrong, or that Zach simply isn't ready to play, for some reason (and there could be several).
We will never know the truth unless we're told.  But ultimately, the lesson here is that Fans shouldn't take what Coaches say as truth.  Coaches lie, stretch the truth, etc., for their own reasons.  
 

Agree ... all eyes are Sauroned on Saleh now

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[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

And in 4 weeks they will announce Zach is out for the year lol. 
 

[Trotter]

Just now, SoFlaJets said:

Why would somebody do that Trotter? That's the kid's knee man, he is not ever going to be anything but a nice kid we all liked until he had his knee wrecked twice in less than a year. 

I would have no idea - and I certainly was not accusing you of doing so.

I can't say I have ever seen a square knee cap and that raised. Maybe it is the angle or the photo but it just looked way off to me but I am not even close to a doc so I could be 100% in the wrong..

 

[Dunnie]

We just watched Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan and Deshaun Watson switch teams in the same offseason.
Off the top of my head, Garoppolo could be available 5 months from now and already knows the offense.

Garappolo is a rich man's Mike White ... hard pass.

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[More Cowbell]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Saleh is ridiculous, saying Wilson has to be smart about going out of bounds. 

It's true in a preseason game, but what about regular season?

His OC was getting on the QB last season for not having a more aggressive mindset with his legs.

Wilson's preseason "cut" in the open field vs the Eagles didn't look particularly hard or violent.

I mean how do you not have concerns about your QB being injury prone?

Tom Brady has been in the league for like 30 years and never suffered a self-inflicted bone bruise.

I mean if you're an NFL player, you have to make cuts.  He wasn't touched.  What are they gonna do, tell Kapono to never make a cut?  Either run in a straight line or go down?

Pretty much. I'm already of the mind set he will never be a franchise QB. This is pathetic.  

[Jets Voice of Reason]

It's gotten better overall, but man what a clown shoes operation. The coach 100% looks like he has no idea what he's doing when things like this happen.

[Warfish]

6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Thank you!

You're welcome Fidelio.

6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Now, as you might imagine, I don't agree with #4.

I neither agree nor disagree with any of them, or any other floated theory.  

In the absence of evidence or official statement of clarity, speculation is all we have.

6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

As I truly believe the NY Jets like Wilson a lot and want him on the field.

You would think that, but teams make unexpected decisions at times.  Especially teams like us.

6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I do think 1-3 are the most accurate and reasonable explanations - and probably a combination of the three.

Hopefully we will get real clarity at some point in the future.

But again, even if they say "it was X", we fans will never know if that is truth, or the message they want us to hear.

[slimjasi]

5 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:

And in 4 weeks they will announce Zach is out for the year lol. 
 

This is sort of what I expect now. 

[Dunnie]

Now I am really pulling for Flacco to go 2-1 so I can take pleasure in watching this sh*t fire squirm as they bench him for Zach week 4 and Zach struggles against Pittsburgh .. FML.

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[Lurker89]

1 hour ago, Trotter said:

- is that factual that they are involved or just an assumption?

100% conjecture  from rhe peanut gallery 

[65 Toss Power Trap]

2 hours ago, genot said:

Saleh is a bad HC. Runs soft camps No adjustments in game. Now he's babeying our starter, solidifying the thought that he's a weak livered little puffball.

This makes zero sense. He's back when his knee, and he, is totally ready.

[Dunnie]

Pretty much. I'm already of the mind set he will never be a franchise QB. This is pathetic.  

Im more down on Saleh than Zach at this point.

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[Joe Willie White Shoes]

8 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

We just watched Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan and Deshaun Watson switch teams in the same offseason.

Off the top of my head, Garoppolo could be available 5 months from now and already knows the offense.

Ryan is 37 years old. The Watson saga was a once in a lifetime situation and the Browns' trade and contract were absurd.  Wilson-type trades of top QBs in their prime are rare.  So the Jets will compete with the other 5-10 QB starved teams for Garappolo. Good plan.

[GreenFish]

Fellow Jets fans, I’ve been a Jets fan since I was kid. Stuck by this team through all the downs. But enough is enough. This was the last straw. I’m done.

 

J/K. I’m staying for the sh*t show. ? This might be the earliest I’ve giving up on the team though. 

[65 Toss Power Trap]

2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

A crushing blow.  Not a good sign.  Knee is worse then they are letting on.

Or, they are being careful and letting it totally heal. There are not long term effects from bone bruises as long as you let it completely heal.

[Fantasy Island]

48 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Flacco is terrible.  Just sucks another season down the drain.

Let’s see how it plays out. I’m excited 

[More Cowbell]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Maybe the knee swelled up after the 2nd workout yesterday.  And now they said, t\lets shut him down for a month.

Regardless, this is bad.

Will you stop with the swelling. Swelling doesn't  happen out of nowhere.  It isn't  like he went an entire week with no swelling and suddenly  he swelled up. If he had swelling he has had it happening for a while. 

[TuscanyTile2]

3 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Now I am really pulling for Flacco to go 2-1 so I can take pleasure in watching this sh*t fire squirm as they bench him for Zach week 4 and Zach struggles against Pittsburgh .. FML.

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While Kenny Pickett looks like a FQB against us.

[FidelioJet]

4 minutes ago, Jets Voice of Reason said:

It's gotten better overall, but man what a clown shoes operation. The coach 100% looks like he has no idea what he's doing when things like this happen.

He really did looked confused during that press conference.  Like a kid that got caught in a  lie or didn't do their homework and was making excuses.  

Strange.

[65 Toss Power Trap]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

The time is now

Let's play him all year. We'll get the first pick in 2023 draft.

[Flightattendant]

Does it still feel different this time?

[56mehl56]

23 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

Looking at the first nine games before the bye, all I realistically see is 1-8 or 2-7.   Not gonna be pretty, folks.

The Jets could be 8-0 and you'd probably say they'll finish 3-14  it's what you do . 

[Flightattendant]

Just now, TuscanyTile2 said:

While Kenny Pickett looks like a FQB against us.

Yeah we'll knock TURDisky out of the game. Pickett comes in and lights us up.

[Jetluv58]

1 hour ago, dbatesman said:

Ok, so take 1. off the table.

Somebody do us all a favor and just contract this ******* toilet fire of a franchise already.

London calling. 

[More Cowbell]

3 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Im more down on Saleh than Zach at this point.

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Saleh not knowing how to talk about injuries has nothing to do with Zach's  inability to stay on the field. Do you realize had this happened against the Ravens he would be out until November? 

[TuscanyTile2]

1 minute ago, Flightattendant said:

Yeah we'll knock TURDisky out of the game. Pickett comes in and lights us up.

[Barry McCockinner]

I was curious so I looked this up. The last time the Jets had a QB start the entire season was Ryan Fitzpatrick in 2015. I'd be willing to bet that's the longest streak in the league.

[Flightattendant]

1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

History repeats itself.

[SoFlaJets]

Discussing this in the Jake Asman thread on Twitter and some guy simply writes Google the recovery time for meniscus trim surgery this is what it says:

 "If you sit at work, you may be able to go back in 1 to 2 weeks. But if you are on your feet at work, it may take 4 to 6 weeks. If you are very physically active in your job, it may take 3 to 6 months."

[Dunnie]

Never thought I'd say it ....



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[Trotter]

8 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

100% conjecture  from rhe peanut gallery 

Thanks.

 

[slimjasi]

Just now, Barry McCockinner said:

I was curious so I looked this up. The last time the Jets had a QB start the entire season was Geno Smith in 2015. I'd be willing to bet that's the longest streak in the league.

The Jets are the gift that keeps on giving!

If I could go back in time and meet my 9 year old self, I would beat his ass. 

[More Cowbell]

They must have had some OL at BYU to keep Humpty from breaking in College.