Zach Wilson Press Conference - 09/07

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

That I think the kid has horseshoe up his a** because I was sure he tore his ACL, that I would be shocked if he played week one, but I would love to be wrong.  We just talked about this in a thread not too long ago, lol.  You even upvoted a post where I suggested, and would prefer, that he come back no earlier than week 3 lol.

I upvote any and all posts that suggest keeping Zach off the field indefinitely. 

[Fantasy Island]

Streveler be like 1 down, 2 to go. Then we release the Kraken.  The comeback kid will save the season.

[Mogglez]

6 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

I remember this 

but in the beginning there was a period where you and footballguy were leaning heavy on the darnold stays side, remember that dude even threatened me and wanted to meet up and fight with me over this?

 

To be fair I also remember though when you received more information and changed your position like you outlined above but I’m taking about the beginning after JDs infamous end of the season presser. 
 

 

I definitely can’t speak for FG but yes, before a new staff was in place, and early on, I was told Sam has a good chance of sticking around.  However, that’s why I kept stressing how fluid it was, especially because there wasn’t a coaching staff in place yet.

Like I said:  I will never guarantee anything (let alone fight anyone about it, lol) but I’d be shocked. 

[Mogglez]

32 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

I'm not so sure anyone actually believes that.

I just saw someone say that they think Flacco can possibly get this team to 10 wins this year, lol.  They were 110% serious.

[T0mShane]

Coincidentally, if the Jets traded Zach Wilson this season, it’s only a $12 mil dead cap hit next season. 
 

Cough.

[RSJ]

Things were better when Rich Kotite was in charge. Let that sink in for a minute.


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[Spoot-Face]

26 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

I just saw someone say that they think Flacco can possibly get this team to 10 wins this year, lol.  They were 110% serious.

I think that belief is more that Flacco is, or was at one point, a competent QB, and this offense is setup so and potentially has enough weapons for any competent QB to have some success. A lot also hinges on the defense coming to play. I think few people, if any, believe Joe Flacco can put this team on his back and drag us to 10 wins.

 

EDIT: Maybe I'm just projecting, though.

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, Mogglez said:

If Zach doesn’t show much of anything, I would almost bet my life savings that they’re not drafting another first round QB next year.  They’re going to trade for someone like Wentz, or Jimmy G. because this ridiculous fanbase will eat it up like a fat kid at a buffet.

It will be hilarious to watch this unfold.  You think today was a bad day for this forum?  Just wait until the people here, who genuinely believe Joe Flacco is Vinny T. 2.0, have one of those 2 under center.

Totes.  Let’s keep running back this cycle of drafting late riser QB prospects + bringing in no veteran competition while anointing the young QB week 1 autostarter.

Works swell clearly.

[T0mShane]

11 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

I think that belief is more that Flacco is, or was at one point, a competent QB, and this offense is setup so and potentially has enough weapons for any competent QB to have some success. A lot also hinges on the defense coming to play. I think few people, if any, believe Joe Flacco can put this team on his back and drag us to 10 wins.

 

EDIT: Maybe I'm just projecting, though.

I don’t think Joe Flacco equals wins, but I think Joe Flacco gives us the best chance to see Elijah Moore and Garrett Wilson catch a lot of passes that they wouldn’t see if Zach Wilson was playing. One theme that emerged in camp was Flacco, White, and Streveler all spreading the ball around quite a bit as compared to Zach throwing it to Tyler Conklin and Berrios on every drop back.

[BornJetsFan1983]

Or maybe the coach is positive and doing what coaches do..say he will play when he is healthy and we will know more soon.

This is all that is to our terrible jets coverage from half ass reports...Saleh did nothing wrong neither did Zach.

 

 

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, Mogglez said:

Yeah well, I guess some people are going to learn that the grass isn’t always greener, aren’t they?

How brown do you want the grass to get before trying something different?

Im not a Wentz guy either but there are other options that will be available.  And I really don’t see anything wrong with Jimmy G to help provide a professional and some stability at QB fir a year.  Bring him in plus draft a midround QB.  Why the f**k not?

[T0mShane]

Has anyone tried to explain how the Jets have all-of-a-sudden determined that Zach has to miss at least the next three weeks while also claiming they aren’t putting him on IR because it’s cool if he practices? 

[Mogglez]

22 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Totes.  Let’s keep running back this cycle of drafting late riser QB prospects + bringing in no veteran competition while anointing the young QB week 1 autostarter.

Works swell clearly.

I would rather do that 100 times than trot out different versions of Ryan Fitzpatrick every other year.

[Mogglez]

27 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

How brown do you want the grass to get before trying something different?

Im not a Wentz guy either but there are other options that will be available.  And I really don’t see anything wrong with Jimmy G to help provide a professional and some stability at QB fir a year.  Bring him in plus draft a midround QB.  Why the f**k not?

Glad to see that one person has already convinced themselves.   

[Mogglez]

21 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I don’t think Joe Flacco equals wins, but I think Joe Flacco gives us the best chance to see Elijah Moore and Garrett Wilson catch a lot of passes that they wouldn’t see if Zach Wilson was playing. One theme that emerged in camp was Flacco, White, and Streveler all spreading the ball around quite a bit as compared to Zach throwing it to Tyler Conklin and Berrios on every drop back.

I think you are going to be sorely disappointed by Joe Flacco when the lights go on for real, even if these are your hopes.

[Jetsfan80]

5 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Glad to see that one person has already convinced themselves.

Absolutely.  13 years of the same sh*t needs to end. 

[Mogglez]

5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Absolutely.  13 years of the same sh*t needs to end. 

That’s fine.  Im not here to tell you what to root for.  Just like I’m not going to sit here this time next season and try to convince myself that the likes of Jimmy G, Gardner Minshew, Mitchell Trubisky, or Carson Wentz are the answer to our QB woes or root for them.  Won’t do it.  Period.  I’ll be hoping that they do whatever they can to help us draft their replacement.

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

That’s fine.  Im not here to tell you what to root for.  Just like I’m not going to sit here this time next season and try to convince myself that the likes of Jimmy G, Gardner Minshew, Mitchell Trubisky, or Carson Wentz are the answer to our QB woes or root for them.  Won’t do it.  Period.  I’ll be hoping that they do whatever they can to help us draft their replacement.

Dude.  Never said they’re the answer.  I just want watchable football for a year.  

[Mogglez]

12 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Dude.  Never said they’re the answer.  I just want watchable football for a year.  

Again, I’m not here to tell you what to root for.  Just like how I don’t care about 1 year or root for a single season of good football.  1 year does nothing for me.  It’s useless. Years like 2015 are useless wastes of time.  If I could go back, I’d prefer the Jets to have just sucked a** that season and drafted Joey Bosa.  For once in my miserable sports watching life, I want a team that is consistently good.  With the way the game is, that won’t change until the team has a long term answer at the most important position in football. 

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, Mogglez said:

Again, I’m not here to tell you what to root for.  Just like how I don’t care about 1 year or root for a single season of good football.  1 year does nothing for me.  It’s useless. Years like 2015 are useless wastes of time.  For once in my miserable sports watching life, I want a team that is consistently good.  With the way the game is, that won’t change until the team has a long term answer at the most important position in football. 

Ok.  But you obviously glossed over the part where I requested a vet + a midround QB.  But whatever.  

[Mogglez]

7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Ok.  But you obviously glossed over the part where I requested a vet + a midround QB.  But whatever.  

Nope.  I would just prefer to outright suck and keep attacking the better prospects until one works out.

[Green Ghost]

3 hours ago, Mogglez said:

Believe what you want.  If you think a GM and HC, who would, hypothetically, be on the hot seat are rolling with another top 5 pick, who is still an unknown rookie, I have a bridge to sell you.

Get used to this face:

I love yay Moggz, but you’re way off base here. Nobody in this organization is going to buy into Wentz. If we’re picking top 5 next year, and they’re worried about the fans reaction to their top pick, wtf are we even doing here?

If it were up to me (which it isn’t) I give the Douglas/Saleh quinella about 10 games this year. Flacco gives this team (yes I realize how sad this sounds) it’s best chance to win and if we’re not flirting with a .500 record by then I’m contacting Sean Payton and letting him write his own contract before the Cowboys get to him.

Douglas and Saleh should never get the chance to make a selection in the top 6 or 7 spots in the draft ever again. If it looks like there’s a chance they might, get their asses out of here. Let someone like Payton steer the ship and get out of his way.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

3 hours ago, Mogglez said:

Believe what you want.  If you think a GM and HC, who would, hypothetically, be on the hot seat are rolling with another top 5 pick, who is still an unknown rookie, I have a bridge to sell you.

Get used to this face:

You seriously think that after flaming out in Philly, being banished from Indy, and then failing in D.C., that JD would bring Wentz here?  I don't think anyone in this organization is that stupid.  Wentz is getting his last chance in Washington this season and I don't think he'll pass the test.  Signing him next year would be a total disaster.  

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

8 hours ago, Biggs said:

He threw his HC under the bus by telling the truth.   Bad look for the organization.  

Wilson did nothing wrong here.

When you tell as many lies as BS, it must be hard to keep track of all of them so as to keep your story straight.

Not Wilson’s fault he’s honest and his coach is disengenuous.

[Biggs]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Wilson did nothing wrong here.

When you tell as many lies as BS, it must be hard to keep track of all of them so as to keep your story straight.

Not Wilson’s fault he’s honest and his coach is disengenuous.

Thinking about it, the whole story seems off.  I think the real issue is Zach isn't ready mentally to be a starting QB in the NFL and the Jets staff knows it.  This has Mims written all over it.  Saleh alluded to Zach mental condition as a factor.  When he's 110 percent mentally and physically.  

Maybe this was just a nice way to bench him indefinetely for the good of the team?

It wasn't handled very elegantly but that's my takeaway.  Zach hasn't exactly acted like he was going to be on the shelf for 8 weeks minimum until yesterday.

[92ShaunEllis92]

8 hours ago, FTL Jet Fan said:

The kid looks like he is going cry and curl into the fetus position. 

Agree. His body language tells you all you need to know regarding the situation. Saleh will be devoured by media as the season progresses if the Jets don’t win. 

[T0mShane]

5 hours ago, Mogglez said:

I think you are going to be sorely disappointed by Joe Flacco when the lights go on for real, even if these are your hopes.

Well, we can all thank Zach for setting the bar very, very, very, very low anyway.

[Biggs]

10 hours ago, johnnysd said:

In what way? His statement that is was always this long for recovery?

Yes that statement.  Zach has been fine playing along with him being ready to start the season up until yesterday.  

Zach was benched and Zach ian't happy.  

[T0mShane]

4 hours ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

You seriously think that after flaming out in Philly, being banished from Indy, and then failing in D.C., that JD would bring Wentz here?  I don't think anyone in this organization is that stupid.  Wentz is getting his last chance in Washington this season and I don't think he'll pass the test.  Signing him next year would be a total disaster.  

@Mogglez doesn’t think the Jets would go after Wentz. He’s just trying to scare people into embracing Zach Wilson and Wentz was the only option worse than “more Zach Wilson” that he could think of.

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

7 hours ago, RSJ said:

Things were better when Rich Kotite was in charge. Let that sink in for a minute.


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Hey, at least Kotite could get the team lined up properly for the National Anthem..."Low to the High....Low to the High" (shortest dude to tallest dude haha), ever see that? haha.

Since those 2 play off runs with Ryan, not sure the mostly re-cycled bums on the field and the obligatory Rookie HC (Johnsons never want to pay for a real one) could even accomplish that.

[Matt39]

6 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Has anyone tried to explain how the Jets have all-of-a-sudden determined that Zach has to miss at least the next three weeks while also claiming they aren’t putting him on IR because it’s cool if he practices? 

It don’t make no sense Tom 

[jgb]

7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Totes.  Let’s keep running back this cycle of drafting late riser QB prospects + bringing in no veteran competition while anointing the young QB week 1 autostarter.

Works swell clearly.

[jgb]

Trubisky or Minshew would be

 

To have right about now.

[Matt39]

5 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

I love yay Moggz, but you’re way off base here. Nobody in this organization is going to buy into Wentz. If we’re picking top 5 next year, and they’re worried about the fans reaction to their top pick, wtf are we even doing here?

If it were up to me (which it isn’t) I give the Douglas/Saleh quinella about 10 games this year. Flacco gives this team (yes I realize how sad this sounds) it’s best chance to win and if we’re not flirting with a .500 record by then I’m contacting Sean Payton and letting him write his own contract before the Cowboys get to him.

Douglas and Saleh should never get the chance to make a selection in the top 6 or 7 spots in the draft ever again. If it looks like there’s a chance they might, get their asses out of here. Let someone like Payton steer the ship and get out of his way.

If the Jets are picking in the top 5 again it will be QB or the edge from Alabama. 

[Jets Voice of Reason]

6 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

If the Jets are picking in the top 5 again it will be QB or the edge from Alabama. 

Personally I think this team is ride or die with Zach for at least another season. I can see them doing something like bring in a legit vet to compete though.