The Start Mike White Thread

[clayton163v]

Fellas, sooner or later you will get onboard the train.  All Aboard.

I just wanted to chime in my support for starting Mike White for the four game stretch.  This is not a dump Zach Wilson thread.  Zach was born with the thunderbolt and we have to try to make it work.   He is our #1.  Further, I realize the Jets are too chicken.  So I will not troll the board.  Nevertheless, I argue we should do this for four reasons plus Zach can learn a few things while he sits.   

First, I think Mike White gives us a better chance to win the majority of those games.  White adds a powerful screen and play action element to the Jets offense that Flacco does not.  Flacco must hit downfield passes early or we will get whupped.  He is a statute back there.  Mike White eats clock and moves the chains.  This is not cheerleading.  It is obvious that Mike is more elusive and adept at run substitutes like screens, draws and the play action fake than either Zach or Flacco.   

Second, it will allow us to find out whether or not White is a viable long term backup.  We do need to find this out.  It's both good management of our scarce resources (players) and good business (cap money).  If White comes off the bench later this year and does it again we will lose him.  And I WARN the board, White showed signs of that magic in the preseason.  I watched those games a second time.  It was not just the Strev (I loved it but the chaos play does not work in the NFL).   We need to find out if White is the guy and this is a perfect opportunity.   He has such a clean game.   

Third, it will permit our injured #1 - Zach is our #1 - to watch and learn:

A.   How to handle a football in the backfield - exactly the same every single time.  With Zach, every snap is different.  He has got to clean this up and not just when he throws.  Taking the ball under center is part of the game.  Being good at it, an advantage.  

B.   That the secret to White's screen game lies in his footwork.    Zach has the worst screen pass footwork I have ever seen.  Footwork can be coached. 

C.   The play action fake is not something that is called by the coaching staff.  It is the weapon that is available at all times to QBs who handle the ball properly and use proper footwork (see A & B above).  You cannot fool them any other way.  There is a how. 

D.   That you must set your feet in the pocket before you throw.  There is a reason the pitching rubber in baseball is sideways.  It is how you set your back foot.  In the pocket you must step forward into the direction you are throwing.  The flat foot stuff from the pocket must go.  He has got to clean up the footwork.  This does not mean we must tame him.  He throws great on the run.  But it is no excuse for bad form in the pocket.  White's form is virtually flawless.  He has had success with it too.  Zach can learn from him.

Fourth, IT WILL BE FUN.  A ROLLICKING RIDE WITH AN UNCERTAIN DESTINATION.  I feel like Flacco will lead us to a dignified 0-4 record.  White scares people.  White inspires people.  Instead of the Dropkick Murphys we play a dark march.   C'mon.  Let's make some noise. 

I am sour about it because this is just work and repetition.  Perspiration.  Effort.   Watching yourself on film while a coach works with you until you develop consistent technique.   Zack must master this sh*t and it is NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK.   Sam Darnold lived in the shotgun and we all saw it.  Why did he not progress?  Is it going to happen again?  Geno and Sanchez came into the league with better skills.  Chad and Klecko should be our QB coaches.  Chad can teach and Joe can administer discipline. 

Mike White brings the storm.  He has a disciplined screen game that complements our zone scheme.  He has the best ballhandling in the backfield since Chad.  He is a master of the play action fake (you know a guy is good when he fools you and the cameraman).  Best of all, he brings enough to the table that he adds to what the rest of the team offers.  As Bill Parcells used to put it, he drives the bus.  And he is fun.  Moreover, he has convinced me that he has worked his ass off.  I can see the polish.  I can see the effort.  

I fear Zack is hurt worse than the Jets are letting on.  Lets play Mike White.  So it will not be this week.  How about next week?  How about halftime?   Release the Kracken.  

 

[nj meadowlands]

Thanks for the post. He was beaten out for the backup job by Joe Flacco.

[Spoot-Face]

whoa

Who knew Joe Flacco posted on JetNation.

[ZachEY]

Look - I'm not reading your novella, but the reason you can't start Mike White is because if he has another Bengals game, you create a QB controversy that the team absolutely does not want.  Flacco, they can yank for Wilson the moment there is even a hint of a reason to do so.

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, clayton163v said:

Fellas, sooner or later you will get onboard the train.  All Aboard.

I just wanted to chime in my support for starting Mike White for the four game stretch.  This is not a dump Zach Wilson thread.  Zach was born with the thunderbolt and we have to try to make it work.   He is our #1.  Further, I realize the Jets are too chicken.  So I will not troll the board.  Nevertheless, I argue we should do this for four reasons plus Zach can learn a few things while he sits.   

First, I think Mike White gives us a better chance to win the majority of those games.  White adds a powerful screen and play action element to the Jets offense that Flacco does not.  Flacco must hit downfield passes early or we will get whupped.  He is a statute back there.  Mike White eats clock and moves the chains.  This is not cheerleading.  It is obvious that Mike is more elusive and adept at run substitutes like screens, draws and the play action fake than either Zach or Flacco.   

Second, it will allow us to find out whether or not White is a viable long term backup.  We do need to find this out.  It's both good management of our scarce resources (players) and good business (cap money).  If White comes off the bench later this year and does it again we will lose him.  And I WARN the board, White showed signs of that magic in the preseason.  I watched those games a second time.  It was not just the Strev (I loved it but the chaos play does not work in the NFL).   We need to find out if White is the guy and this is a perfect opportunity.   He has such a clean game.   

Third, it will permit our injured #1 - Zach is our #1 - to watch and learn:

A.   How to handle a football in the backfield - exactly the same every single time.  With Zach, every snap is different.  He has got to clean this up and not just when he throws.  Taking the ball under center is part of the game.  Being good at it, an advantage.  

B.   That the secret to White's screen game lies in his footwork.    Zach has the worst screen pass footwork I have ever seen.  Footwork can be coached. 

C.   The play action fake is not something that is called by the coaching staff.  It is the weapon that is available at all times to QBs who handle the ball properly and use proper footwork (see A & B above).  You cannot fool them any other way.  There is a how. 

D.   That you must set your feet in the pocket before you throw.  There is a reason the pitching rubber in baseball is sideways.  It is how you set your back foot.  In the pocket you must step forward into the direction you are throwing.  The flat foot stuff from the pocket must go.  He has got to clean up the footwork.  This does not mean we must tame him.  He throws great on the run.  But it is no excuse for bad form in the pocket.  White's form is virtually flawless.  He has had success with it too.  Zach can learn from him.

Fourth, IT WILL BE FUN.  A ROLLICKING RIDE WITH AN UNCERTAIN DESTINATION.  I feel like Flacco will lead us to a dignified 0-4 record.  White scares people.  White inspires people.  Instead of the Dropkick Murphys we play a dark march.   C'mon.  Let's make some noise. 

I am sour about it because this is just work and repetition.  Perspiration.  Effort.   Watching yourself on film while a coach works with you until you develop consistent technique.   Zack must master this sh*t and it is NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK.   Sam Darnold lived in the shotgun and we all saw it.  Why did he not progress?  Is it going to happen again?  Geno and Sanchez came into the league with better skills.  Chad and Klecko should be our QB coaches.  Chad can teach and Joe can administer discipline. 

Mike White brings the storm.  He has a disciplined screen game that complements our zone scheme.  He has the best ballhandling in the backfield since Chad.  He is a master of the play action fake (you know a guy is good when he fools you and the cameraman).  Best of all, he brings enough to the table that he adds to what the rest of the team offers.  As Bill Parcells used to put it, he drives the bus.  And he is fun.  Moreover, he has convinced me that he has worked his ass off.  I can see the polish.  I can see the effort.  

I fear Zack is hurt worse than the Jets are letting on.  Lets play Mike White.  So it will not be this week.  How about next week?  How about halftime?   Release the Kracken.  

 

Sir, marry me

[T0mShane]

If it’s two starts, it’s fine to start Flacco. If it’s more than that, they should start Mike White and or Streveler. 

[Trotter]

Replace mike white with strev and I am onboard.

[Jetluv58]

I wish they would have cut him or traded him. The thought of hearing about him all year again is depressing. Would be far more excited by Streveler. 

[GreenFish]

Flacco is starting the Ravens game. That much we know.

If Flacco plays poorly, I would give White the Cleveland and Cincy game.

If he also plays poorly, call up Stev and give him the Pit game unless Zach is ready.

[ganggreen305]

This fanbase is the worst.

[SuicidalSince98]

I would rather start strev

[slimjasi]

Just now, ganggreen305 said:

This fanbase is the worst.

Maybe if the team we root for wasn't an annual embarrassment, we would be more enjoyable people. 

[JTJet]

16 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

if he has another Bengals game

This really isnt something to worry about. 

[Spoot-Face]

Just now, slimjasi said:

Maybe if the team we root for wasn't an annual embarrassment, we would be more enjoyable people. 

Or maybe if the fanbase wasn't so garbage, the team would perform better.

Did you think about that, slim?

[Jetsfan80]

21 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

If it’s two starts, it’s fine to start Flacco. If it’s more than that, they should start Mike White and or Streveler. 

AND Streveler?  Like a 2-QB system?  Or like a stepbrothers situation?  

 

 

[Larz]

[Scott Dierking]

Long live the Queen.

[Dunnie]

[TuscanyTile2]

54 minutes ago, Trotter said:

Replace mike white with strev and I am onboard.

If we do that then who's going to be the backup for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers?!

[slimjasi]

Just now, TuscanyTile2 said:

If we do that then whose going to be the backup for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers?!

[TuscanyTile2]

36 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

Or maybe if the fanbase wasn't so garbage, the team would perform better.

Did you think about that, slim?

"It's the fans' fault".  Wouldn't that also mean that the Patriots have the best fans of all time?

[Spoot-Face]

5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

If we do that then who's going to be the backup for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers?!

Captain Morgan is a free agent!!!!

[Spoot-Face]

5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

"It's the fans' fault".  Wouldn't that also mean that the Patriots have the best fans of all time?

Well, seeing as they are a slimy, arrogant, and illegitimate franchise, I'd say yes their fans represent them quite aptly.

[FidelioJet]

Mike White is a 5th year - 3rd string QB and should and will remain there.

[MR.GANGGREEN28]

The end “The Start Mike White Thread” comment

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Probably not winning either way.  Most likely an 50-burger demolition.

So might as give the young(er) guy a chance to see what he can do.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

58 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Mike White is a 5th year - 3rd string QB and should and will remain there.

You mock MW (he's an easy target, I suppose), but gun to your head, you honestly think Kapono's career will be longer than 5 years?  ?

His body will be completely brokedown by then.  And if it isn't, the league will have done him the favor of "retiring" him.

Besides, the average NFL career is between 3 and 4 years. 

So even by your own parameters, Mike White has had above average NFL staying power.

[pointman]

4 hours ago, Larz said:

Signed. Sealed. Delivered. Lock this sum bish up. The thread is done.

[BornJetsFan1983]

4 hours ago, clayton163v said:

Fellas, sooner or later you will get onboard the train.  All Aboard.

I just wanted to chime in my support for starting Mike White for the four game stretch.  This is not a dump Zach Wilson thread.  Zach was born with the thunderbolt and we have to try to make it work.   He is our #1.  Further, I realize the Jets are too chicken.  So I will not troll the board.  Nevertheless, I argue we should do this for four reasons plus Zach can learn a few things while he sits.   

First, I think Mike White gives us a better chance to win the majority of those games.  White adds a powerful screen and play action element to the Jets offense that Flacco does not.  Flacco must hit downfield passes early or we will get whupped.  He is a statute back there.  Mike White eats clock and moves the chains.  This is not cheerleading.  It is obvious that Mike is more elusive and adept at run substitutes like screens, draws and the play action fake than either Zach or Flacco.   

Second, it will allow us to find out whether or not White is a viable long term backup.  We do need to find this out.  It's both good management of our scarce resources (players) and good business (cap money).  If White comes off the bench later this year and does it again we will lose him.  And I WARN the board, White showed signs of that magic in the preseason.  I watched those games a second time.  It was not just the Strev (I loved it but the chaos play does not work in the NFL).   We need to find out if White is the guy and this is a perfect opportunity.   He has such a clean game.   

Third, it will permit our injured #1 - Zach is our #1 - to watch and learn:

A.   How to handle a football in the backfield - exactly the same every single time.  With Zach, every snap is different.  He has got to clean this up and not just when he throws.  Taking the ball under center is part of the game.  Being good at it, an advantage.  

B.   That the secret to White's screen game lies in his footwork.    Zach has the worst screen pass footwork I have ever seen.  Footwork can be coached. 

C.   The play action fake is not something that is called by the coaching staff.  It is the weapon that is available at all times to QBs who handle the ball properly and use proper footwork (see A & B above).  You cannot fool them any other way.  There is a how. 

D.   That you must set your feet in the pocket before you throw.  There is a reason the pitching rubber in baseball is sideways.  It is how you set your back foot.  In the pocket you must step forward into the direction you are throwing.  The flat foot stuff from the pocket must go.  He has got to clean up the footwork.  This does not mean we must tame him.  He throws great on the run.  But it is no excuse for bad form in the pocket.  White's form is virtually flawless.  He has had success with it too.  Zach can learn from him.

Fourth, IT WILL BE FUN.  A ROLLICKING RIDE WITH AN UNCERTAIN DESTINATION.  I feel like Flacco will lead us to a dignified 0-4 record.  White scares people.  White inspires people.  Instead of the Dropkick Murphys we play a dark march.   C'mon.  Let's make some noise. 

I am sour about it because this is just work and repetition.  Perspiration.  Effort.   Watching yourself on film while a coach works with you until you develop consistent technique.   Zack must master this sh*t and it is NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK.   Sam Darnold lived in the shotgun and we all saw it.  Why did he not progress?  Is it going to happen again?  Geno and Sanchez came into the league with better skills.  Chad and Klecko should be our QB coaches.  Chad can teach and Joe can administer discipline. 

Mike White brings the storm.  He has a disciplined screen game that complements our zone scheme.  He has the best ballhandling in the backfield since Chad.  He is a master of the play action fake (you know a guy is good when he fools you and the cameraman).  Best of all, he brings enough to the table that he adds to what the rest of the team offers.  As Bill Parcells used to put it, he drives the bus.  And he is fun.  Moreover, he has convinced me that he has worked his ass off.  I can see the polish.  I can see the effort.  

I fear Zack is hurt worse than the Jets are letting on.  Lets play Mike White.  So it will not be this week.  How about next week?  How about halftime?   Release the Kracken.  

 

Hye clayton glad to be here with my fellow mike White truthers...i mean we all know mike is the way better than flacco and inspite of his detractors best efforts I for one did not forget him running the offence inthe indy game and acknowledge and credit him for doing what only first ballot hall of game qbs could do last year and that was put points and yards on the board against buffalo.

Look we need to stop pretending mike white is not better than flacco. Kid can play and run the system, get him on the damn field.

[BornJetsFan1983]

4 hours ago, ZachEY said:

Look - I'm not reading your novella, but the reason you can't start Mike White is because if he has another Bengals game, you create a QB controversy that the team absolutely does not want.  Flacco, they can yank for Wilson the moment there is even a hint of a reason to do so.

if he has another bengals game - there is no controversy, he is the starter and zach rides the pine.

[TuscanyTile2]

3 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

Hye clayton glad to be here with my fellow mike White truthers...i mean we all know mike is the way better than flacco and inspite of his detractors best efforts I for one did not forget him running the offence inthe indy game and acknowledge and credit him for doing what only first ballot hall of game qbs could do last year and that was put points and yards on the board against buffalo.

Look we need to stop pretending mike white is not better than flacco. Kid can play and run the system, get him on the damn field.

#MikeWhiteTruth

[FidelioJet]

17 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

if he has another bengals game - there is no controversy, he is the starter and zach rides the pine.

What if he has another Bills game?  Can we end this nonsense?

[ZachStepdad]

5 hours ago, clayton163v said:

Fellas, sooner or later you will get onboard the train.  All Aboard.

I just wanted to chime in my support for starting Mike White for the four game stretch.  This is not a dump Zach Wilson thread.  Zach was born with the thunderbolt and we have to try to make it work.   He is our #1.  Further, I realize the Jets are too chicken.  So I will not troll the board.  Nevertheless, I argue we should do this for four reasons plus Zach can learn a few things while he sits.   

First, I think Mike White gives us a better chance to win the majority of those games.  White adds a powerful screen and play action element to the Jets offense that Flacco does not.  Flacco must hit downfield passes early or we will get whupped.  He is a statute back there.  Mike White eats clock and moves the chains.  This is not cheerleading.  It is obvious that Mike is more elusive and adept at run substitutes like screens, draws and the play action fake than either Zach or Flacco.   

Second, it will allow us to find out whether or not White is a viable long term backup.  We do need to find this out.  It's both good management of our scarce resources (players) and good business (cap money).  If White comes off the bench later this year and does it again we will lose him.  And I WARN the board, White showed signs of that magic in the preseason.  I watched those games a second time.  It was not just the Strev (I loved it but the chaos play does not work in the NFL).   We need to find out if White is the guy and this is a perfect opportunity.   He has such a clean game.   

Third, it will permit our injured #1 - Zach is our #1 - to watch and learn:

A.   How to handle a football in the backfield - exactly the same every single time.  With Zach, every snap is different.  He has got to clean this up and not just when he throws.  Taking the ball under center is part of the game.  Being good at it, an advantage.  

B.   That the secret to White's screen game lies in his footwork.    Zach has the worst screen pass footwork I have ever seen.  Footwork can be coached. 

C.   The play action fake is not something that is called by the coaching staff.  It is the weapon that is available at all times to QBs who handle the ball properly and use proper footwork (see A & B above).  You cannot fool them any other way.  There is a how. 

D.   That you must set your feet in the pocket before you throw.  There is a reason the pitching rubber in baseball is sideways.  It is how you set your back foot.  In the pocket you must step forward into the direction you are throwing.  The flat foot stuff from the pocket must go.  He has got to clean up the footwork.  This does not mean we must tame him.  He throws great on the run.  But it is no excuse for bad form in the pocket.  White's form is virtually flawless.  He has had success with it too.  Zach can learn from him.

Fourth, IT WILL BE FUN.  A ROLLICKING RIDE WITH AN UNCERTAIN DESTINATION.  I feel like Flacco will lead us to a dignified 0-4 record.  White scares people.  White inspires people.  Instead of the Dropkick Murphys we play a dark march.   C'mon.  Let's make some noise. 

I am sour about it because this is just work and repetition.  Perspiration.  Effort.   Watching yourself on film while a coach works with you until you develop consistent technique.   Zack must master this sh*t and it is NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK.   Sam Darnold lived in the shotgun and we all saw it.  Why did he not progress?  Is it going to happen again?  Geno and Sanchez came into the league with better skills.  Chad and Klecko should be our QB coaches.  Chad can teach and Joe can administer discipline. 

Mike White brings the storm.  He has a disciplined screen game that complements our zone scheme.  He has the best ballhandling in the backfield since Chad.  He is a master of the play action fake (you know a guy is good when he fools you and the cameraman).  Best of all, he brings enough to the table that he adds to what the rest of the team offers.  As Bill Parcells used to put it, he drives the bus.  And he is fun.  Moreover, he has convinced me that he has worked his ass off.  I can see the polish.  I can see the effort.  

I fear Zack is hurt worse than the Jets are letting on.  Lets play Mike White.  So it will not be this week.  How about next week?  How about halftime?   Release the Kracken.  

 

I never seen mike white complete a pass longer than 30 yards in air yet ?

[BornJetsFan1983]

5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

What if he has another Bills game?  Can we end this nonsense?

great! he played great relative to every one else to goes against them. if we get mike white buffalo last year in every game this year we go to the playoff man. no controversy. mike white gets no respect its crazy.

[FidelioJet]

3 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

great! he played great relative to every one else to goes against them. if we get mike white buffalo last year in every game this year we go to the playoff man. no controversy. mike white gets no respect its crazy.

So if he throws five INT’s and pulled from the game every week we go to the playoffs?  That is a really strange take.    good for you I guess.  

Mike White gets plenty of respect from me.  A quality 5 year, 3rd string QB.  Sticking around this league, even third string isn’t easy. With his limited skill set it’s actually pretty impressive.