Brown expected to be out, Fant to LT

[sourceworx]

JFC

I've already given up on watching the game. The season hasn't even started yet and it's already over.

This f*cking team.

[Alka]

4 hours ago, Claymation said:

Should they have not drafted Wilson, Gardner, Johnson and Hall in the previous rounds?

Now that Gardner has shown a glimpse of what he can be, I think it was a great pick.   The other picks look great as well.  But having said that, if Joe D. knew then what he knows now, one of those draft picks would have been for a right tackle.  Let's hope that Max Mitchell is a 4th round steal.

[kevinc855]

Fant doesn’t seem Happy

 

[Jimmy 2 Times]

At this point I’d put AVT back to LG.  He had a nice chemistry with Fant.  Let LT nurse the rookie and run left all day. 

[Doggin94it]

7 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

The thing is, Why did we bring back McDermott if we were going to play Mitchell in the even of an injury

Because we need a backup OT in case Fant or Mitchell get hurt in game? 

[freestater]

20 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Fant doesn’t seem Happy

 

He shouldn't be. 

[Larz]

I’ve seen rumbling of short term IR on twitter lol fml

[bostonmajet]

6 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

not sure but JD had all offseason to get depth on OL and instead he rolled the dice with Becton and a 37 year old Tackle....

Just not smart GMing

While I agree in principal, the OT market was thin for a while. Only thing he could have really done was draft an OT with pick #4 or #10; I guess he wanted to fill other holes and hoped Becton and what was laying around would suffice until our 4th rounder was ready to go.

[Larz]

I noticed van roton playing for the bills last night. 
 

oline is hard to find.  Can’t just go to the store like Parcells used to say 

[Larz]

[Larz]

Haha Fant isn’t even healthy this is gonna be fun 

[FidelioJet]

To me, this is all on JD - for not having a back-up plan for Becton prior to camp.

TBH,  The OL should have been built this off-season with the assumption Becton won't be available.  And if he actually worked out - great.  

But relying on him was a big miss.

[Barry McCockinner]

6 minutes ago, Larz said:

I noticed van roton playing for the bills last night. 
 

oline is hard to find.  Can’t just go to the store like Parcells used to say 

Josh Allen better watch his knees

[Beerfish]

Sign with the Jets is step one.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

To me, this is all on JD - for not having a back-up plan for Becton prior to camp.

TBH,  The OL should have been built this off-season with the assumption Becton won't be available.  And if he actually worked out - great.  

But relying on him was a big miss.

Unfortunately this team had way too many holes to fill/get better at that you have to take the risk your 1st round pick will turn into what you thought, while continuing to build out the rest of the roster. 

[Saul Goodman]

Max Mitchell providing some bulletin board material before his first ever game. This should go over well.

“The youngster was asked how he plans on handling the Baltimore Ravens defensive line and specifically 36-year-old veteran Calais Campbell:

“Yeah, obviously he is a 15-year vet so he has some salt to him. The dude is big, long, strong, fast, and a freak athlete but nothing we can’t handle. Nothing I haven’t seen on the field before. Obviously, he is a renown guy but he is just another dude.”

[munchmemory]

Just now, Saul Goodman said:

Max Mitchell providing some bulletin board material before his first ever game. This should go over well.

“The youngster was asked how he plans on handling the Baltimore Ravens defensive line and specifically 36-year-old veteran Calais Campbell:

“Yeah, obviously he is a 15-year vet so he has some salt to him. The dude is big, long, strong, fast, and a freak athlete but nothing we can’t handle. Nothing I haven’t seen on the field before. Obviously, he is a renown guy but he is just another dude.”

"a renown guy".  lol

[southparkcpa]

9 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

Thank you joe Douglass thank you!!! 

What a joke that statement will become….. we haven’t played a down and the disaster is on us like stink on shlt.    

[southparkcpa]

33 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Sign with the Jets is step one.

A place where you can come and cash your last check.  When no one wants you…. We will pay you.   

[munchmemory]

The "IR Bunch".   

 

[More Cowbell]

1 hour ago, Doggin94it said:

Because we need a backup OT in case Fant or Mitchell get hurt in game? 

So what was the point of cutting him

[Mogglez]

5 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

So what was the point of cutting him

Brown got hurt this past Monday.

[Prodigal Syndicate]

So instead of signing Morgan Moses again who played well and signed for 3 years $15M with the Ravens we did this.

Classic JD.

[thebuzzardman]

Another JD fail. Hits keep on coming. 

[SuicidalSince98]

1 hour ago, FidelioJet said:

To me, this is all on JD - for not having a back-up plan for Becton prior to camp.

TBH,  The OL should have been built this off-season with the assumption Becton won't be available.  And if he actually worked out - great.  

But relying on him was a big miss.

Brown was a fine backup to becton… 

[FidelioJet]

Just now, SuicidalSince98 said:

Brown was a fine backup to becton… 

That's actually not true.  Brown wasn't on the team until Becton went down.  Jets were then stuck overpaying for the best T still around.

If they handled this properly they would have signed a better vet during the off-season.   JD counted on Becton being healthy and that was a mistake.  That's all.  Not the end of the world but we can look at legitimate mistakes and accept them.

[freestater]

1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

That's actually not true.  Brown wasn't on the team until Becton went down.  Jets were then stuck overpaying for the best T still around.

If they handled this properly they would have signed a better vet during the off-season.   JD counted on Becton being healthy and that was a mistake.  That's all.  Not the end of the world but we can look at legitimate mistakes and accept them.

You tell 'em, cap. Don't let them try to gaslight us.

[Larz]

1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

That's actually not true.  Brown wasn't on the team until Becton went down.  Jets were then stuck overpaying for the best T still around.

If they handled this properly they would have signed a better vet during the off-season.   JD counted on Becton being healthy and that was a mistake.  That's all.  Not the end of the world but we can look at legitimate mistakes and accept them.

Good luck Sunday. You’re gonna need it ?

[BigRy56]

Does anybody know how he hurt his shoulder?

[SuicidalSince98]

7 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

That's actually not true.  Brown wasn't on the team until Becton went down.  Jets were then stuck overpaying for the best T still around.

If they handled this properly they would have signed a better vet during the off-season.   JD counted on Becton being healthy and that was a mistake.  That's all.  Not the end of the world but we can look at legitimate mistakes and accept them.

That is semantics. So if we had signed Brown pre Becton you’d be ok with it? Brown was a rather premier option as a backup to becton. 

[FidelioJet]

4 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

That is semantics. So if we had signed Brown pre Becton you’d be ok with it? Brown was a rather premier option as a backup to becton. 

No, I think you're missing my point. Yes, Brown was a fine option as a back up.  We needed a starter.  Becton should not have been treated as an incumbent.  That's all I'm saying.   

[SuicidalSince98]

1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

No, I think you're missing my point. Yes, Brown was a fine option as a back up.  We needed a starter.  Becton should not have been treated as an incumbent.  That's all I'm saying.   

So if we had signed brown with the intention to start over becton you’d be good? 

[Sperm Edwards]

7 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

Point is he HAD ALL offseason to adrress OL depth and he rolled with Becton and a 37 year tackle.....thats bad GMing

The Rams must've been even dumber to start a 40 year-old LT last year, on the heels of missing half the season the year before. That's why they sucked and finished in last place last year. 

• LT = 40 year-old who missed the last half of the season in 2020
• LG = 24 year-old 5th rounder. Gave up almost a sack every other game + 70 pressures/hurries from the guard position.
• RG = former bust Cleveland let go for nothing. Similar QB sack+hits totals, and pressures+hurries as well, at the other guard position.
• C = former mid-round pick who'd never done anything before. Didn't even see the field the prior season even though he was healthy.
• RT = the Rams' only investment in the OL more expensive than a round 3 pick. Barely; he was a late 2nd rounder (#57) way back in 2015. Missed half the season in 2019.

Depth: I had to look this stuff up --

• Backup LT was Joel Noteboom (the guy who gave up 3 sacks + 3 QB hits last night).
• Backup RT was Bobby Evans (not seeing how he's an upgrade over the Jets' 5th string tackle last year).
• Backup C was Coleman Shelton (took 14 snaps in 2019 and none in 2020).
• Backup Gs were Jamil Demby and Jordan Meredith (neither of whom had ever taken an NFL snap). 

That was the 2021 NFL champions' offensive line. 

• Zero team investment of any top-50 picks in the draft.
• They didn't pay any veterans heavily. Their most expensive man on the line was a LT they gave a $10MM/year 3-year contract to...wait for it...at age 39. He went on IR & missed half that season. Also missed 2 playoff games a year later. 

Go through lots of other teams' OLs and you'll find a lot of the same. The Jets don't have some uniquely thin OL. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you get very unlucky. Losing Brown so quickly wasn't expected; as they get older their skills diminish and they get slower, but they don't suddenly get weaker & instantly unreliable a dozen snaps after a 17-start probowl season with 8 months of no-contact in between. 

[Sperm Edwards]

4 hours ago, JetBlue said:

Once Becton went down he should have been on the hunt for OTs (in additon to Brown) even if it meant giving up a mid round pick.   Not sure what was available and maybe he just couldn't pry one loose but this is not a good look for JD.  

What team is trading either of their starting tackles in August for a mid-round pick? Never mind it was and is unnecessary.

Truth is what they're starting right now, with two LTs injured, is far from unusual: last year's starting LT plus a mid-round rookie RT. 

Here's the other reality of the situation this offseason. There was no panic to sign another tackle, despite some warranted uncertainty with Becton, because there was an unusual number of prior-season starters flooding free agency.

There are still some available today ffs: 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/tackle/available/

[bla bla bla]

Man we have bad luck. Brown has been healthy the last half a decade and then hits IR after 1 PS game with us.

Fant needs to be paid, it would be incredibly stupid to allow him to walk at the end of the year. You are getting dangerously close to Fant telling us to F off