This team is not well coached

[Mo Lew]

No team can play great defense when they are playing from behind 100% of the time. 

Positives: Defense did what they needed. They came out hard and matched the Ravens.  
 

Negatives: But they couldn’t keep it up. We needed the offense to put something in the board and they couldn’t. 
 

Super negative: I think we did better than if Zach played. 
 

? 

 

 

[undertow]

42 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

Lol - This is not a game lost due to coaching.

Can you explain to a dummy like me why every other team in the league played a competitive game today?

[Facts]

36 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

How much would we be winning by if Bill Belichick was our coach?

There are levels to getting your ass kicked.

There are respectable losses and then there are getting pile driven into the earths molten core.

[Facts]

3 minutes ago, Mo Lew said:

No team can play great defense when they are playing from behind 100% of the time. 

Teams don’t usually go behind unless the other offense scores on their defense…

[Bleedin Green]

It is quite thought-provoking to have so many watching the Bowles/Maccagnan cinematic remake and somehow not seeing the same exact "twist" coming.

[BornJetsFan1983]

53 minutes ago, Facts said:

This is just embarrassing. Saleh needs to go back to being a coordinator.

I thought it was going to be different but it looks like they didn't even prepare for the game

[BornJetsFan1983]

3 minutes ago, undertow said:

Can you explain to a dummy like me why every other team in the league played a competitive game today?

Yeah seriously this was all coaching. Whoever says different is delusional, they also though gase wasn't the problem too. I like Saleh but he has not shown the ability to get this team ready with a winning game plan. He has the tools. Just not the plan

[JetsYanks13]

Defensively they played well, offensively it was pathetic. They play calling was on Gase’s level. There’s zero creativity on offense, no down the field passes, just vanilla play calling. My sons flag football team is more creative on offense then this Jets team.


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[Biggs]

Its a bad loss at home against what is probably a mediocre team.  Its still only one game and with the back up QB.  
 

biggest bummer for me is another unwatchable Jets game   

[Matt39]

3 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

I thought it was going to be different but it looks like they didn't even prepare for the game

Fumbles, drops etc. Coaching matters. Since Saleh has been here Jets practices have been short and not overly intense, especially in camp.

[Mo Lew]

6 minutes ago, Facts said:

Teams don’t usually go behind unless the other offense scores on their defense…

So? At some point the d will give up points. It’s inevitable. The jets had plenty of chances to score first in the last 4 fricken years. 

[Fantasy Island]

38 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

Flacco is awful , that we know 

And Zach is worse.  we are so effed.

[bd71]

Limited playbook with Flacco at QB.  Gives the team zero chance to win.

[jeremy2020]

59 minutes ago, DonCorleone said:

I pray to God that he does NOT get a third year. 

Jets are in a tough spot because they fired Gase after two years. Getting rid of coaches (even if they're clearly bad) so soon limits the quality of candidates who will take the job. 

[Alka]

47 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

Lol - This is not a game lost due to coaching.

I respectfully don't agree.  Certainly there are other elements to this loss, but coaching is certainly one of them.

Deciding how the secondary would play man to man or not, starting Joe Flacco or White based upon their individual strengths and weaknesses.  Another head coach might have started White over Flacco.  Another coach might have had the team play man-to man, and this seems to be a strength of Sauce, who we picked up with our first pick. How come the tight ends were not involved in the game until very late?  Didn't the Jets just invest so much in the tight end position?  Isn't it up to the coaching staff to implement that part of the offense?

I think that coaching was not the primary reason for this loss, but to me, it is a secondary but not primary factor. 

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said:

Jets are in a tough spot because they fired Gase after two years. Getting rid of coaches (even if they're clearly bad) so soon limits the quality of candidates who will take the job. 

Woody limits the pool. 

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

Oh man this is hilarious. I remember when every one was so pumped to land this guy and I was left scratching my head. I personally wanted pederson or daboll.

Saleh is not a good coach. But atleast the defense looked decent today. Way better than last year ?‍♂️ 

[RutgersJetFan]

2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

Jets are in a tough spot because they fired Gase after two years. Getting rid of coaches (even if they're clearly bad) so soon limits the quality of candidates who will take the job. 

Considering the judgement of the Jets when it comes to assessing quality, that may be a good thing.

[munchmemory]

"This team is not well coached".   Words said lots last season.  Yet, it all looks the same.

[Biggs]

13 minutes ago, Mo Lew said:

No team can play great defense when they are playing from behind 100% of the time. 

Positives: Defense did what they needed. They came out hard and matched the Ravens.  
 

Negatives: But they couldn’t keep it up. We needed the offense to put something in the board and they couldn’t. 
 

Super negative: I think we did better than if Zach played. 
 

? 

 

 

The Ravens made a few adjustments in the second half and blew us out in the third quarter.  

The D was exploited before TOP was  a major factor.

  

[Fantasy Island]

38 minutes ago, DLJ said:

You’re blaming this game on coaching?

Yes because it sucked.  Coach picked Zuerline.  Boyer should have been fired, his ST are a effing joke.  We ran twice and passed once so much that the ravens were like, wow!  this game was a gd joke.  It's on coaching and the GM who listened to the HC and made the moves he recommended.  If you can't see this, you are a fan of another team.

[DonCorleone]

4 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

Jets are in a tough spot because they fired Gase after two years. Getting rid of coaches (even if they're clearly bad) so soon limits the quality of candidates who will take the job. 

If they pay enough, anyone has a price. 

[Larz]

The moment it hits you you hired a head coach largely due to the defense he coached, and then he says “ a monkey could call this defense “

[Mo Lew]

21 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

Jets are in a tough spot because they fired Gase after two years. Getting rid of coaches (even if they're clearly bad) so soon limits the quality of candidates who will take the job. 

Somewhat ironic that we then got the #1 on our list to replace him. 

[jj71787]

I wasn't going to jump on the coaching send-off just yet, but when you get blown out, your style needs to change. The team isn't benefiting from whatever he brings, needs to change tactics

[Fantasy Island]

1 hour ago, Jets723 said:

So far he hasn’t shown much at all.  We need to give him the season.  I don’t wa t to keep hiring/firing coaches every two years 

I do.

[Bugg]

6 minutes ago, Mo Lew said:

Somewhat ironic that we then got the #1 on our list to replace him. 

Problem is the Johnsons somehow always manage to hire the lowest-priced  coordinator on the coaching market. Payton and John Gruden (admittedly with baggage) are both available next year. But like Bill Cowher going on forever, somehow, Jets will never hire that big time experienced coach. Heck, they don't even bother interviewing quality college coaches. So every HC forever is learning how to be a HC on the job here. 

[Jets723]

6 minutes ago, jj71787 said:

I wasn't going to jump on the coaching send-off just yet, but when you get blown out, your style needs to change. The team isn't benefiting from whatever he brings, needs to change tactics

Nobody is arguing that.  Certainly Saleh hadn’t shown much at all as a coach.  He needs to start making in game adjustments and getting results or he needs to be gone

[SoFlaJets]

No they are not, why do we have to watch a team play the same way from start to finish-even down 3 TDs still running these slow plodding plays-no fire-nothing coming from Saleh. Sean Payton should be hired tonight

[jeremy2020]

14 minutes ago, Mo Lew said:

Somewhat ironic that we then got the #1 on our list to replace him. 

yea, like when you ask out a 5 and are like, "Well, she was the only girl I ever asked out"

[Bugg]

4 minutes ago, SoFlaJets said:

No they are not, why do we have to watch a team play the same way from start to finish-even down 3 TDs still running these slow plodding plays-no fire-nothing coming from Saleh. Sean Payton should be hired tonight

Offensive approach is completely lacking; passive, not forcing the issue, practically giving up. Understandable Flacco is a statue, but they gave up today. 

[BigB]

Need a QB that can play at a hi-level and can run and move the chains on 3rd down. Kicking really sucks. Defense held up for the most part. Need to score TDs and not turn the ball over to win. 

[ZachEY]

46 minutes ago, undertow said:

Can you explain to a dummy like me why every other team in the league played a competitive game today?

Because we're still one of the least talented teams in the league, and most of our talent was playing their first game, we have non-functioning special teams, all of which is almost insignificant in comparison to the fact that we were starting Joe Flacco (any other teams starting their backup this week?) and the offensive line has been ravaged by injuries and was essentially a disaster?

Happy to help.

[ASH1962]

1 hour ago, ZachEY said:

Hope Saleh suggests the offensive line starts blocking and the players stop fumbling next week.

Hope Salesman plays Garret Wilson more than 3 plays when the game is still within reach. Hope he knows he has a back up QB with great running legs relegated to the PS. Hope he realizes Flacco stinks and should be a back up only, regardless of who the starter is. Hope he realizes that the game was not over altogether at 10-3 and give Mike White a series or 2 when Flacco stunk it up. You never know, White could have gotten hot.

Come on, stop making excuses for Coach Salesman, he is not a good HC. He's a real good talker, and has shown nothing but talk in the year he's been here. They've shown no improvement with supposedly beter personel thanks to the greatest GM in history, and have seemingly no chance to compete with good teams like today and its painfully obvious as to why.

[Fantasy Island]

1 minute ago, ASH1962 said:

Hope Salesman plays Garret Wilson more than 3 plays when the game is still within reach. Hope he knows he has a back up QB with great running legs relegated to the PS. Hope he realizes Flacco stinks and should be a back up only, regardless of who the starter is. Hope he realizes that the game was not over altogether at 10-3 and give Mike White a series or 2 when Flacco stunk it up. You never know, White could have gotten hot.

Come on, stop making excuses for Coach Salesman, he is not a good HC. He's a real good talker, and has shown nothing but talk in the year he's been here. They've shown no improvement with supposedly beter personel thanks to the greatest GM in history, and have seemingly no chance to compete with good teams like today and its painfully obvious as to why.

OMG from your mouth to Woody's ears.  FJD and FRS!