92ShaunEllis92 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: I'm always fascinated with the disdain for businessmen making money. They despise those of us whom they can not emulate nor replicate the same results; in this country, $ is usually that measuring stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Snook said: I work in the surveying/ engineering/layout/asbuilt etc. aspect of the construction business and have worked on athletic fields. Very highly doubt it's a grading/slope error. I appreciate your opinion as an expert can you elaborate as to why you think its not a slope error? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, oatmeal said: The Johnsons and Mara’s want to make that offseason ? using the stadium for concerts and events Grass makes this a problem The World Cup will be using Metlife in 2026. They insist on grass. When they had it in 1994, they had a grass tray system at Giants Stadium for a few years but didn't work out that well. Field got chewed up with 16 regular season games and was chewed up and brown every December. But Euro soccer stadiums host concerts too. Would like to think they could wrok on the problem better than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Green Truth said: Chicago just put in brand-new Bermuda grass, that's all I was hearing during the pre-games. If Chicago can maintain grass in the dead of winter, so can the Jets and Giants. They will have to lay real grass for the World Cup, so they may want to think about changing it out after this season. The most likely reason for not going to real grass is they want to use the stadium for concerts. Since only 16 to 17 NFL games are played there every year. They have to make money somewhere for the investment. Except the Bears only host half as many games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just pour cement and spray paint it green 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Integrity28 said: NFLPA is the worst in sports. Another example; it's a collision sport. They should have great post career health care,and the plan should vest pretty mininally. And PS time should somehow count. Same with pension plan vesting. Instead the NFLPA gets excited about the shiny trinkets of free agency which benefit very few of their members. Which is pretty meanginless with a hard salary cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Why can’t we just play on fluffy cotton clouds like it was meant to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 53 minutes ago, bitonti said: I appreciate your opinion as an expert can you elaborate as to why you think its not a slope error? Thanks in advance we all have the leveling app on the Iphone 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 14 hours ago, 92ShaunEllis92 said: Psychics have nothing to do with field turf injuries. They can’t predict the injuries ahead of time, otherwise all teams would have Miss Cleo on their medical staff. Dumb post. holy hell, you completely miss my point because you cant read, yet accuse me of making a dumb post, one cant make this up. The education system is a complete disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 it's probably a money thing. it's probably cheaper to install turf than it is to maintain grass for the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankiepapa Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 The Johnsons and Mara’s want to make that offseason using the stadium for concerts and events Grass makes this a problem They can always spring for that retractable grass field Arizona hasSent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RutgersJetFan Posted September 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2022 19 hours ago, bitonti said: And it's probably not the turf itself (like a 2 million dollar fix) it's probably more complicated something underneath it You think it's like a Fraggle Rock situation or something more scientific? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: You think it's like a Fraggle Rock situation or something more scientific? What's more scientific than fraggle rock? If anyone's ever been to field level, it's not flat. None of them are. It's a curve for drainage where the coaches on the sideline are like a foot below the ground in between the hashes My completely unqualified guess is they messed up that curve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 17 hours ago, Bugg said: The World Cup will be using Metlife in 2026. They insist on grass. When they had it in 1994, they had a grass tray system at Giants Stadium for a few years but didn't work out that well. Field got chewed up with 16 regular season games and was chewed up and brown every December. But Euro soccer stadiums host concerts too. Would like to think they could wrok on the problem better than this. true lord knows they saved enough quid going cheap a dozen years ago on that joint. pay up and reinvest some of those dividends into grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 From the injuries, to the half filled stadium, to sharing with the Giants, to our juvenille uniforms, to the prices and traffic. Just dreadful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, bitonti said: What's more scientific than fraggle rock? If anyone's ever been to field level, it's not flat. None of them are. It's a curve for drainage where the coaches on the sideline are like a foot below the ground in between the hashes My completely unqualified guess is they messed up that curve Gnomes was such cooler explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: holy hell, you completely miss my point because you cant read, yet accuse me of making a dumb post, one cant make this up. The education system is a complete disaster. It is isnt? Lol i think the fact you took the post in earnest really demonstrates the sad level of our educational system. Lol Thanks for the cheap laugh and showing me some people are really THAT dum……. I mean gullible. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, 92ShaunEllis92 said: It is isnt? Lol i think the fact you took the post in earnest really demonstrates the sad level of our educational system. Lol Thanks for the cheap laugh and showing me some people are really THAT dum……. I mean gullible. Lol your the only one who didnt get it, look in the mirror and learn to read 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 23 hours ago, Rangers9 said: I don’t get it why teams spending millions of dollars for players are using surfaces to play on that are hard, hot and conducive to injury. You’d think the Players Association would be more directly involved. Why not just regular grass surfaces. I agree - except where you mentioned they are hard. The problem I think is that they are too soft, which is why you see injuries when people plant hard on the surface. I had a knee injury last year and once healed I used to run on a really high end field turf field to keep from taking a pounding. What I consistently found was that it hurt my knee more because it was too spongy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: your the only one who didnt get it, look in the mirror and learn to read I cun Reed juz fine thanks ? so you learned reading through a mirror? Lol that’s a new one. let me guess…….you “learned to read” between the lines and cracks in the mirror caused by your gorgeous (sarcasm) reflection ? Lol ? have a good day and thanks for the laugh. I’m done now. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/12/2022 at 8:12 PM, 92ShaunEllis92 said: They despise those of us whom they can not emulate nor replicate the same results; in this country, $ is usually that measuring stick. selling dime bags out of your mom's basement to your neighbors and selling $5 handies to the old men in new jersey doesnt exactly qualify you as a businessman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 The Browns have added a symbol to center field in their stadium......an angry elf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/12/2022 at 3:52 PM, bitonti said: Ravens' OT Ja'Wuan James tore his Achillies yesterday, likely a career ender. Cornerback Kyle Fuller tore his ACL. Both non contact injuries. I don't know dick about field engineering but at what point to the Giants and Jets admit they installed that turf incorrectly and the whole thing needs to be redone? if Zach's knee injury happened in MetLife it would have been way worse You are using a hypothetical injury Zach didn’t have to help prove your point ? Players get hurt every week. Regardless of the field condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, ECURB said: You are using a hypothetical injury Zach didn’t have to help prove your point ? Players get hurt every week. Regardless of the field condition. True. And 28% more get hurt on turf as was posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snook Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/12/2022 at 8:20 PM, bitonti said: I appreciate your opinion as an expert can you elaborate as to why you think its not a slope error? Thanks in advance The grid (we used a 10’ grid on one field I was directly involved in) and the tolerance allowed. The measurements taken are to 1/100th of a foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 This is what happens when you have the 2 most injured teams from last year play on turd grass on the first game of the season. We are very lucky those season/career enders didn't belong to us. Wishing the best for those two players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 The isolation shot of Sterling Shepards ACL tear is shocking the play is over he's basically jogging the Metlife turf monster claims another 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, bitonti said: The isolation shot of Sterling Shepards ACL tear is shocking the play is over he's basically jogging the Metlife turf monster claims another Multiple complaints from visiting teams in the last 4-5 years....when do the apologists stop caping for the Johnsons and Maras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 9:28 PM, Flea Flicking Frank said: selling dime bags out of your mom's basement to your neighbors and selling $5 handies to the old men in new jersey doesnt exactly qualify you as a businessman Did life have to teach you that lesson the hard way? Lol. ? You seem to be well versed in what sounds like a serviceable hustle of low-income peddling; good for you on proving society wrong in that you dont need a HS degree to survive in todays modern society. Lol ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, bitonti said: The isolation shot of Sterling Shepards ACL tear is shocking the play is over he's basically jogging the Metlife turf monster claims another How can you possibly blame the turf here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: How can you possibly blame the turf here? How can you not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: How can you not? Why not blame his shoes or his pants or the air? There is zero indication that he slipped or got caught in the turf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: Why not blame his shoes or his pants or the air? There is zero indication that he slipped or got caught in the turf. So the air caused a grown man's acl to pop? Is that the story we're going with? His shoes did it? Cmon bro the turf is either faulty or cursed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, bitonti said: So the air caused a grown man's acl to pop? Is that the story we're going with? His shoes did it? Cmon bro the turf is either faulty or cursed With this team, cursed isn't totally out of the realm of possibilities... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, bitonti said: So the air caused a grown man's acl to pop? Is that the story we're going with? His shoes did it? Cmon bro the turf is either faulty or cursed That doesn't look like a typical turf related injury. I've never seen an injury quite like that one. Curses aren't real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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