JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, PS17 said: That’s fair. The younger guys are more aggressive. So a young, ascending offensive coordinator would be nice. Unless we can land a big fish like Sean Payton. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, FidelioJet said: What does that say about their believe in Mike White? It says they're bad at their job. But we already know that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 49 minutes ago, Jet9 said: OT.... Most of you are adults, or pretend to be, so you most likely don't watch AEW. But currently CM Punk is being a brat again and the term 'taking receipts' has come up in the real life drama. I'm 43 and don't remember this phrase being used much, if ever, before the past few weeks and it's in AEW and Jets drama now. 'I have receipts', yes. I've heard that before. Is this like a pre-emptive version of that? Is it being used correctly? Is this some dumb sh*t like GOAT? Am I way older than I think? FTR, I'm on coffee, no booze yet. FTR is awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 If they’re going to insist on starting Flacco. I would bring in Streveler and use him in the Taysom Hill role, even as a change of pace to counter the statue we have back there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: FTR is awesome. Top Guys....OUT! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Claymation said: They have a better shot at winning with Flacco than White at QB. Completely disagree. Flacco is washed up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 We as Jets fans are used to the coach and gm being separated in the hierarchy Those days are gone JD dictates to Saleh. The coach cannot bench the 3.5 mil Flacco for the 2 mil white or the vet minimum Streveler It's literally not Salehs decision. It is jd who signed Flacco, it's the contract that dictates Playing time There's no scenario where Saleh disobeys JD and starts whoever he wants. These decisions are made by the GM not the HC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, bitonti said: We as Jets fans are used to the coach and gm being separated in the hierarchy Those days are gone JD dictates to Saleh. The coach cannot bench the 3.5 mil Flacco for the 2 mil white or the vet minimum Streveler It's literally not Salehs decision. It is jd who signed Flacco, it's the contract that dictates Playing time There's no scenario where Saleh disobeys JD and starts whoever he wants. These decisions are made by the GM not the HC I always thought it was GM makes personnel decisions and HC makes game day decisions, including starters? I'm not so sure about the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dcat said: Completely disagree. Flacco is washed up. As I am with your statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, SuicidalSince98 said: Remember White against the Bills? In the limited time since that he has not been the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Claymation said: The Jets have young players all over the field, with 3 rookies logging significant minutes just on the offense. What is the best way to develop these players, with a seasoned vet at QB or a backup who has 3 games of experience? With *this* 'seasoned' vet? Much rather have the kids w/ 3 days of experience. Flacco isn't seasoned, he is fermented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: You said you found it impossible which is the part that I was really referencing. I would ask, who on this offense would you say should be captain? Connor McGovern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Jet9 said: OT.... Most of you are adults, or pretend to be, so you most likely don't watch AEW. But currently CM Punk is being a brat again and the term 'taking receipts' has come up in the real life drama. I'm 43 and don't remember this phrase being used much, if ever, before the past few weeks and it's in AEW and Jets drama now. 'I have receipts', yes. I've heard that before. Is this like a pre-emptive version of that? Is it being used correctly? Is this some dumb sh*t like GOAT? Am I way older than I think? FTR, I'm on coffee, no booze yet. Clinically? Like if you really want to know... western culture turbocharged its reliance on extrinsic validation... this includes the latest in verbal fashion -- Receipts is super hot right now. Same with "shares".... some how Sammy Watkins had Aaron Rodgers shares this weekend. I'm just glad we're not having to "unpack" everyone's loaded opinion as much anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, football guy said: I was there live and have re-watched the offense twice since. As much as Flacco pisses me off he wasn't the reason they lost. When the pocket was clean he did everything the offense asked of him, minus that horrific INT. Where he struggled most was under pressure. Flacco was under pressure for 19 of his 59 drop backs, and in those drop backs his average time to throw was 3.44 seconds. His average time to throw on the rest? 2.19 seconds. Naturally, the throws he was kept clean on where the ones designed in the short portions of the field. The passes that were designed in the intermediate-deep portion of the field require more time to develop, but the second Flacco faced some pressure he didn't stand a chance and held onto the ball for too long. He only completed 5 of 19 passes under pressure. The truth is I think its hard to say Mike White would do any better. It's not like Flacco was inaccurate - he was immobile - which is the same case for Mike White. Whether its Flacco or White, the QB needs to get the ball out of his hands, and while it pains me to see him be a statue in there, the coaching staff needs to create a game plan that is predicated on getting the ball out quickly and into the hands of their playmakers. There are tons of creative ways to do that, as we saw last year, so why they would depart from it is beyond me. When Zach does come back, they can "reopen" the offense to attack downfield more consistently. Under then, they need to keep it short and quick with the occasional deep concepts off play-action. smartest post I have read so far this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dcat said: I always thought it was GM makes personnel decisions and HC makes game day decisions, including starters? I'm not so sure about the above. That's how it should work. In reality the contracts the GM hands out forces the HCs hand Maybe saleh could bench Joyner or whatever but QB is a franchise level decision it can even involve the owners at some teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: What’s his Monday press conference gonna look like next week if they start Flacco and get blown out again lol Lots and lots of receipts. Many virtual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, munchmemory said: Lots and lots of receipts. Many virtual. Here is my receipt for Saleh's collection: https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/76924668.jpg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Dcat said: Here is my receipt for Saleh's collection: https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/76924668.jpg I have one for Saleh, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Flacco and White should start splitting reps with the first team evenly in practice. If Flacco struggles again, give him the hook, and let's see what White can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bronx Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Thread police @joewilly12needs to start issuing tickets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, bitonti said: That's how it should work. In reality the contracts the GM hands out forces the HCs hand Maybe saleh could bench Joyner or whatever but QB is a franchise level decision it can even involve the owners at some teams The GM is not forcing the coach to start one backup QB over another. It's not a thing and you're making it up out of thin air. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, Barry McCockinner said: The GM is not forcing the coach to start one backup QB over another. It's not a thing and you're making it up out of thin air. it is very much a thing Saleh can't just start Streveler because he thinks thats their best chance to win that's not how the NFL works. The politics are GM has to sign off on all these decisions and in fact it's the GM that set up the depth chart in the first place by signing bums like Flacco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Flacco could literally go 0 for 50, take 10 sacks, and throw 5 pick 6es Saleh still wouldn't turn to Mike White Flacco would basically need to be in a coma for Mike White to get another shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, Paradis said: Clinically? Like if you really want to know... western culture turbocharged its reliance on extrinsic validation... this includes the lasted in verbal fashion -- Receipts is super hot right now. Same with "shares".... some how Sammy Watkins had Aaron Rodgers shares this weekend. I'm just glad we're not having to "unpack" everyone's loaded opinion as much anymore. Mmm hmm. Thank you. I don't like it. What's shares? Watkins shared a poor Sunday with Aaron? If I never hear 'triggered' again it will be too soon. This steak sucks. You sound triggered Nope. The steak sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, bitonti said: it is very much a thing Saleh can't just start Streveler because he thinks thats their best chance to win that's not how the NFL works. The politics are GM has to sign off on all these decisions and in fact it's the GM that set up the depth chart in the first place by signing bums like Flacco Saleh: Hey JD - I think I'm going to start Mike White this week. Flacco is looking a little long in the tooth and I think White can give us a spark to help us win and get to .500 JD That's cute Steroid Pinocchio but we're spending ... << pulls up spreadsheet with player salaries and finds QBs>> almost $1 million more in cap space on my boy Flacco. That's almost half a percent of our total salary cap. Saleh: Saleh: So you are more concerned with less than half a percent of our salary cap than our chances at winning? JD: Figure it out - Woody doesn't like seeing wasted cap space whether we're 2-15 or 15-2. nah - not a thing. you're making it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jet9 said: Mmm hmm. Thank you. I don't like it. What's shares? Watkins shared a poor Sunday with Aaron? If I never hear 'triggered' again it will be too soon. This steak sucks. You sound triggered Nope. The steak sucks. "You're gaslighting the cook, dude...." "No, you just virtue signaling the mom and pop restaurants". Kill me now. Shares -- it's how Fantasy "I'm bobby Axelrod " Twitter Personalities represent the 47 leagues they're in.... "I just sold all my shares in James Robinson..." ... cool, how's pension looking? Anyway it's now just used inppapriotely -- Sammy sees 38% target share from A Rod... Hmm, i'm pretty sure Sammy sees 38% of targets says the same fcking thing, only minus the Knitted Sweater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Saleh: Hey JD - I think I'm going to start Mike White this week. Flacco is looking a little long in the tooth and I think White can give us a spark to help us win and get to .500 JD That's cute Steroid Pinocchio but we're spending ... << pulls up spreadsheet with player salaries and finds QBs>> almost $1 million more in cap space on my boy Flacco. That's almost half a percent of our total salary cap. Saleh: Saleh: So you are more concerned with less than half a percent of our salary cap than our chances at winning? JD: Figure it out - Woody doesn't like seeing wasted cap space whether we're 2-15 or 15-2. nah - not a thing. you're making it up. You forgot the part where JD can fire Saleh for not agreeing with him It's not the 1% of the cap it's JD making sure JD's decisions pan out it's why Ashtyn Davis and Braden Mann are still on the team Like I said before Jets fans are used to this GM/HC each reporting to the owner those days are gone JD hired Saleh, he dictates starters to Saleh and Saleh just takes it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, bitonti said: You forgot the part where JD can fire Saleh for not agreeing with him It's not the 1% of the cap it's JD making sure JD's decisions pan out it's why Ashtyn Davis and Braden Mann are still on the team Like I said before Jets fans are used to this GM/HC each reporting to the owner those days are gone JD hired Saleh, he dictates starters to Saleh and Saleh just takes it You're making it up out of thin air. JD isn't mandating Flacco over White. It makes no sense. Stop. JD also signed Mike White. If either backup QB is solid and wins games he looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, T0mShane said: If you’re wondering how Bob’s week is going, Greenberg is currently clowning Saleh for this on his national show Saleh: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, T0mShane said: If you’re wondering how Bob’s week is going, Greenberg is currently clowning Saleh for this on his national show So what does all this mean for LeBron James' legacy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Saleh: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, bitonti said: You forgot the part where JD can fire Saleh for not agreeing with him It's not the 1% of the cap it's JD making sure JD's decisions pan out it's why Ashtyn Davis and Braden Mann are still on the team Like I said before Jets fans are used to this GM/HC each reporting to the owner those days are gone JD hired Saleh, he dictates starters to Saleh and Saleh just takes it Lol you and Matt love the most ludacris theories. Douglas handles who plays. Do you hear yourself?? Wait. Why is Ashtyn Davis still on the team? Over say Pinnock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: You're making it up out of thin air. JD isn't mandating Flacco over White. It makes no sense. Stop. JD also signed Mike White. If either backup QB is solid and wins games he looks good. youre making it up that he doesn't mandate it contracts dictate playing time JD creates the contracts, Saleh has to respect that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, bitonti said: youre making it up that he doesn't mandate it contracts dictate playing time JD creates the contracts, Saleh has to respect that You're talking about less than half a percent of the cap. There is no mandate. Stop making crap up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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