Popular Post Flightattendant Posted September 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Bottom line he's an NFL QB , if your afraid to let him do the things QB's do like run, then he shouldn't have taken a snap in a preseason game. Yeah I don't understand the hate on the play to be honest. It shows competitiveness. I could only imagine the criticism if he went down early instead of going for it. Zack has no heart. Zacks too soft. Zacks afraid to get hit. Yapyapyap. Many fans have already made up their mind on Wilson. Nothing will change how they see him. 11 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Bottom line he's an NFL QB , if your afraid to let him do the things QB's do like run, then he shouldn't have taken a snap in a preseason game. No need to play hero ball in the pre-season. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, the Claw said: Cool, so football players shouldn’t play football until week one. Got it. Thumbs up. No. Players shouldn't play hero ball in the pre-season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 @slimjasi - what did you say yesterday that Sunday can't get here soon enough? While I do not know if it will happen, a win will have a significant positive impact on this board - at least until Wednesday of next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Just now, Trotter said: @slimjasi - what did you say yesterday that Sunday can't get here soon enough? While I do not know if it will happen, a win will have a significant positive impact on this board - at least until Wednesday of next week. You kidding me, some will bitch that it already ruined their draft status for next year and they'll miss out on Bryce Young. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoJoTownsell1 Posted September 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: No need to play hero ball in the pre-season. Just to be clear we have people in this thread bashing him for not wanting to play hurt and people bashing him for playing too hard in a preseason game. 5 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: oh, ok. Anyway, Zach Wilson should start Sunday since he obviously has no physically limitations in the knee. Yeah, if he can run plays by doing agility drills and then resting, we should be in good shape. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: You kidding me, some will bitch that it already ruined their draft status for next year and they'll miss out on Bryce Young. or they will bitch that Flacco got the 1st win in September for this team in forever and that he is guaranteed to start week 3 if Zach isnt ready. now that i think about it there probably is a good portion of this board rooting for a loss so they dont have to see Flacco next week 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, doitny said: or they will bitch that Flacco got the 1st win in September for this team in forever and that he is guaranteed to start week 3 if Zach isnt ready. now that i think about it there probably is a good portion of this board rooting for a loss so they dont have to see Flacco next week If we do lose on sunday - is it possible we get the we have hit rock bottom posts in week 2? Would that be a record for earliest time in a season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Just to be clear we have people in this thread bashing him for not wanting to play hurt and people bashing him for playing too hard in a preseason game. Count me out of the wanting Wilson to play hurt crowd. I'd rather wait an extra game to get the most healed Wilson possible over getting him on time or a game early. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Yeah yeah yeah...got it. So, how'd Streveler look???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 I just looked at the Twitter videos of Zach. If they want to be conservative, the timeline RS gave is probably right. He’s jogging at 70% in his sprints. If they want him 100% a week before a game that timeline might be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Trotter said: If we do lose on sunday - is it possible we get the we have hit rock bottom posts in week 2? Would that be a record for earliest time in a season? why not it happened last year. week 2 was the NE game and this board lost it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, doitny said: why not it happened last year. week 2 was the NE game and this board lost it. Fun times. Let's just hope that pull of a win or valium sales will rise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Just to be clear we have people in this thread bashing him for not wanting to play hurt and people bashing him for playing too hard in a preseason game. How about just don't get hurt so often? Eli Manning missed 1 game over a 14-year period (and it wasn't due to injury) and meanwhile each of the 2 most recent drafted Jets QB's has missed at least 3 games every season. Soft players lead to soft results. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: How about just don't get hurt so often? Eli Manning missed 1 game over a 14 year period and meanwhile each of the 2 most recent drafted Jets QB's has missed at least 3 games every season. Soft players lead to soft results. Derrick Henry missed games last year , JJ Watt missed games guess they are soft also. Newsflash , injuries happen in football . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Derrick Henry missed games last year , JJ Watt missed games guess they are soft also. Newsflash , injuries happen in football . This is two years in a row that Z has missed significant time. That doesn't bode will for his and the team's future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 50 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: No need to play hero ball in the pre-season. Haha. Hero ball. Fake news. Made up term. Synonym: gunslinger. What everyone wants. Sheesh. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 31 minutes ago, peebag said: This is two years in a row that Z has missed significant time. That doesn't bode will for his and the team's future. Burrow missed games both seasons, Mahomes missed games last year as did Lamar Jackson - guess their futures are bleak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: No need to play hero ball in the pre-season. For the love of all things holy, How was the play he was injured on "Hero Ball"? Not rhetorical, please elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Burrow missed games both seasons, Mahomes missed games last year as did Lamar Jackson - guess their futures are bleak What has Zach done to compare his resume with those others? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Just now, peebag said: What has Zach done to compare his resume with those others? He got injured . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Burrow missed games both seasons, Mahomes missed games last year as did Lamar Jackson - guess their futures are bleak Mahomes played 17 last year. He missed a game in 2020, but that was week 17 resting for the playoffs. He did miss a couple of games in 2019 with a dislocated patella. Burrow had the big injury in 2020, but last year he only sat the last game resting for the playoffs. Jackson missed two games before last season. One was resting for the playoffs, the other was on the Covid list. I don't see this as an apples to apples comparison of being "injury prone" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted September 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Flightattendant said: Yapyapyap. Many fans have already made up their mind on Wilson. Nothing will change how they see him. I'll change my mind that he sucks if he stops sucking. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 He had the first down. Could've walked out and continued the drive. Instead played hero ball went for more. Hero ball 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Mahomes played 17 last year. He missed a game in 2020, but that was week 17 resting for the playoffs. He did miss a couple of games in 2019 with a dislocated patella. Burrow had the big injury in 2020, but last year he only sat the last game resting for the playoffs. Jackson missed two games before last season. One was resting for the playoffs, the other was on the Covid list. I don't see this as an apples to apples comparison of being "injury prone" I never understood the term injury prone. Its like saying your illness prone or accident prone. Humans playing sports get injured it happens. Doesn't predict further injuries especially if you had surgery to fix the issue as in Zach's case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 After scrolling through the past two pages, I need to bleach my eyes and this thread should be shot into the sun. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Flightattendant said: Nothing will change how they see him. What if he plays well? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 51 minutes ago, GandWFan said: Haha. Hero ball. Fake news. Made up term. Synonym: gunslinger. What everyone wants. Sheesh. Nah. He tried to be a hero while down 14 in a meaningless pre-season game, and now he is out until week four. Every term is made up at some point. Like "sheesh" for example. That is a made-up term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: I never understood the term injury prone. Its like saying your illness prone or accident prone. Humans playing sports get injured it happens. Doesn't predict further injuries especially if you had surgery to fix the issue as in Zach's case. Is this the Frank Gore argument? Durability is not a concern? We are just going to shrug our shoulders and say oh well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, freestater said: He had the first down. Could've walked out and continued the drive. Instead played hero ball went for more. Hero ball You keep using that phrase. I don't think it means what you think it means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, Claymation said: For the love of all things holy, How was the play he was injured on "Hero Ball"? Not rhetorical, please elaborate. He was trying to make something out of a busted play in a meaningless preseason game. In a preseason game, the two correct moves are going out of bounds or sliding. Never mind risking a non-contact injury, because they just happen. A QB could end up taking an unnecessary hit from someone like Quincy Williams. A shot to the head, knee, ankle, etc. Was it the ultimate example of hero ball? No, but it falls into the hero ball category. Just like sometimes the best play is to tuck the ball and take the sack or maybe to just throw it into the stands when no receivers are open. A regular season game is a different story. One great play can alter a game, season, playoff contention, etc. A great play in preseason and $2.75 gets you on a NYC bus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, Claymation said: You keep using that phrase. I don't think it means what you think it means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 8:46 PM, T0mShane said: Seems odd that he can make these movements with no brace on but can’t play in a game. His family is protecting him. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 37 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Nah. He tried to be a hero while down 14 in a meaningless pre-season game, and now he is out until week four. Every term is made up at some point. Like "sheesh" for example. That is a made-up term. This is really silly. He made a very basic inside cut - to try and get a first down. He didn't try to take on blockers - or run through tacklers. It really is silly to call it "Hero Ball" - whatever that means. If he has to be worried about making a cut like that - into nobody - and being injured than he shouldn't be playing. You'll get your wish, because he won't be around very long. But it was a basic move - one he should continue to make, without fear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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