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13 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

The Sean Payton dream is dead. 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34643869/sean-payton-says-interested-returning-nfl-coach-2023-right-situation

Asked what he would be looking for in a coaching opportunity, Payton said the right ownership and front office is important.

"The most important element is functional ownership [and] front office ... because there's a handful of teams that aren't, and those teams, regardless of what takes place, they can win on Sunday but they have trouble winning long term," he said. "The opportunity to win consistently and the willingness to build the correct culture and all those things."

Payton just summed up why we have been what we have been for the last 20 years

 

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Here is why Payton is not coming here....

Even though he retired after last season, Payton is not ruling himself out from being a head coach for good. He said on the NewOrleans.Football podcast that he would return for the right job. A good roster won’t be enough to sway him, though. He explained (at the 9:10 mark) that will only return to the NFL sidelines for a team with strong management.

“The most important element is functional ownership, front office…because there’s a handful of teams that aren’t, and those teams, regardless of what takes place, they can win on Sunday but they have trouble winning long term,” Sean Payton said. “The opportunity to win consistently and the willingness to build the correct culture and all those things.”

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11 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Here is why Payton is not coming here....

Even though he retired after last season, Payton is not ruling himself out from being a head coach for good. He said on the NewOrleans.Football podcast that he would return for the right job. A good roster won’t be enough to sway him, though. He explained (at the 9:10 mark) that will only return to the NFL sidelines for a team with strong management.

“The most important element is functional ownership, front office…because there’s a handful of teams that aren’t, and those teams, regardless of what takes place, they can win on Sunday but they have trouble winning long term,” Sean Payton said. “The opportunity to win consistently and the willingness to build the correct culture and all those things.”

Sorry, isn't that what JD (and Saleh) are saying? If a team is good and has a good ownership and front office, why do they need him? Why do we need him? He did great when he was younger and had/chose Brees. Do we want a person her got burnt out and left, and who was suspended for bounty gate? We are rapping up the 'rebuild' and building a culture - the offense with an old broken QB seems to be coming around - the defense, while missing a few pieces is getting better.

Unless Payton wants to run the same O and D, now that we are wrapping up the rebuild, you want to start the process over? And, if he isn't a ZW fan, do we have to draft another QB? A long term winning culture doesn't reboot every 3 years or replace the HC after 1 year and 2 games.

Everyone was begging for Gruden, how did that work out? Before that it was Rule? Before that ...

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24 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Here is why Payton is not coming here....

Even though he retired after last season, Payton is not ruling himself out from being a head coach for good. He said on the NewOrleans.Football podcast that he would return for the right job. A good roster won’t be enough to sway him, though. He explained (at the 9:10 mark) that will only return to the NFL sidelines for a team with strong management.

“The most important element is functional ownership, front office…because there’s a handful of teams that aren’t, and those teams, regardless of what takes place, they can win on Sunday but they have trouble winning long term,” Sean Payton said. “The opportunity to win consistently and the willingness to build the correct culture and all those things.”

he wont come here unless he thinks we have a QB. if Zach can show him something that is the only way. he is not coming here to draft a QB. no coincidence he retired right after Brees. he has a legacy to worry about he cant win 4 games  next year.

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1 hour ago, Dcat said:

Here is why Payton is not coming here....

Even though he retired after last season, Payton is not ruling himself out from being a head coach for good. He said on the NewOrleans.Football podcast that he would return for the right job. A good roster won’t be enough to sway him, though. He explained (at the 9:10 mark) that will only return to the NFL sidelines for a team with strong management.

“The most important element is functional ownership, front office…because there’s a handful of teams that aren’t, and those teams, regardless of what takes place, they can win on Sunday but they have trouble winning long term,” Sean Payton said. “The opportunity to win consistently and the willingness to build the correct culture and all those things.”

Woody will not beat Jerry Jones in a checkbook war.

Fin.

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If you paid attention to the Saints at all during the Payton-Brees era, they always had a “lid lifter”:

Devery Henderson, Robert Meachem, etc.

Whoever was in that role would only catch maybe 20 to 30 passes a year but like 5 or more would be long TDs

The guy wouldn’t get many targets yet he would impact the passing game by opening up the short and intermediate areas of the field because the safeties had to respect the deep threat

The Jets completely lack this element to their offense.  Maybe LaFleur doesn’t think he needs it because a “1-dimensional” WR like that wouldn’t be a “system fit” and couldn’t play “all 3 positions”.

whatever the case, they have no true deep threat 

GW looks good but he doesn’t have that kind of elite long speed.  

That’s not his game, and that’s not how you want to use him.  He’s more versatile than that.

Sean Payton is a quality head coach. 

He has a logical plan and contingencies for every aspect of the game.

Whereas the Jets not only have no plan, but they are literally doing the opposite of what they should be doing in a few obvious areas.

For example:

— MW should be the backup, Flacco 3rd string or just cut

— Breece Hall (stone hands) should be the bruising early down back, and MC the 3rd down / change of pace guy

— Elijah Moore should be in the slot more instead of Garret Wilson

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